Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Furious 7]

Compared to Haaland, you can say they sold late and the price given was also not too expensive, it would be better to say that the example is Jude here
But it's not too strange for that because indeed some of Dortmund's players can also be said to be fields for them and this doesn't happen in just one or two seasons, but almost every season they always sell their players at prices that are really quite high and this is the way they are at an advantage. apart from Bayern who did make the bundesliga like a farm in terms of trophies, Dortmund also did the same but their focus was on the players.

There are many ways for a club to make money, not only from sales of merchandise, and tournament prizes but also from player sales, each league has different characteristics, the English premier league is frenzied in buying players, other leagues are suppliers of great players at high prices, a business that profitable and football is not just about titles but a way to keep making money for the clubs know how to get it. However, Dortmund will find it difficult to win the Bundesliga or Champions League if they only focus on raising players and selling them at high prices, but it looks like it will be even more difficult to change the way they make money  .

Now, indeed, their focus is still on that, regardless of anything, it is very difficult to let Dortmund go from that because their focus has always been the same in the last few seasons.
And indeed as said before they never fail and the eyes of the scouts in Dortmund really deserve a real thumbs up. Aubameyang, Pulisic, Dembele, Haaland, Sancho and now Jude they are products of the foresight of Dortmund's scouts and they have paid off handsomely.
Now seeing from the current condition of the bundesliga, Leipzig will also follow their steps, but indeed for the first and highest order, the sale of players for Dortmund's benefit will never be replaced, considering that their young players are always striking.

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Bellingham is joining Real Madrid by the end of this month officially. This was one of the most profitable deals for Dortmund in the recent years though. In this way they can still reach their main target for a season even if they don't make it to the Bundesliga title. This target is to make a big profit in sales of talented young players such as Bellingham. Despite doing this the ending of this season wouldn't be forgotten too easily in my opinion. Because they literally handed over the title to Bayern Munich despite having a comfortable match on paper.

Fans and the board should still be happy with Terzic's work in general. This was really one of the closest seasons to the title for them.

Bellingham official transfer to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents one of Dortmund most lucrative deals in recent years making it a stunning accomplishment. They can still achieve their main objective for the season thanks to this tactical choice even if they don't win the Bundesliga. Dortmund shrewd economic sense is demonstrated by its ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young bright players like Bellingham. Even though they lost the championship to Bayern Munich despite what appeared to be a comfortable match on paper this season painful end won't be soon forgotten. But Terzic outstanding performance overall should comfort supporters and the board as this season saw them come tantalisingly close to winning the prized crown.

One of Dortmund most profitable deals in recent years Bellingham official move to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents a significant milestone for the team. Their strategic acumen and excellent decision making are demonstrated by their success. Even though they might not be able to win the Bundesliga this year Dortmund tactical decision to play Bellingham ensures that they can still accomplish their primary goal. The club astute business acumen is demonstrated by their ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young gifted players like Bellingham. Even though it was disappointing to lose the championship to Bayern Munich in what on paper should have been an easy match the traumatic finale to the season will live in memory. Terzic remarkable performance during the season should comfort fans and the board though as Dortmund came perilously close to winning the desired title.

[Jackl87]

Dortmund achieved nothing and there is no reason for them to be happy after this year.
In fact, they lose what they could get easily and maybe even years after that they won't have this chance to have a close race with Bayern Munich and have Bayern Munich in this situation.

I also think that the outcome of this season was very tragic for Borussia Dortmund. The sad reality in the Bundesliga is, that other teams only have a chance to become Bundesliga champion if Bayern Munich is playing a very very bad season for their standards because otherwise they are just to strong. This season that was the case and still Borussia Dortmund somehow managed to screw it all up in the very last match. I think they won't get another such big chance again so quickly.

[piebeyb]

Dortmund achieved nothing and there is no reason for them to be happy after this year.
In fact, they lose what they could get easily and maybe even years after that they won't have this chance to have a close race with Bayern Munich and have Bayern Munich in this situation.

I also think that the outcome of this season was very tragic for Borussia Dortmund. The sad reality in the Bundesliga is, that other teams only have a chance to become Bundesliga champion if Bayern Munich is playing a very very bad season for their standards because otherwise they are just to strong. This season that was the case and still Borussia Dortmund somehow managed to screw it all up in the very last match. I think they won't get another such big chance again so quickly.

It's just that Dortmund wasn't ready to become a champion, so many supporters in the last game to celebrate Dortmund as a champion that the stadium was so full as to make Dortmund players awkward and don't have a winning mentality, they should have won their last match and sadly were held to a draw, the champion was in front of their eyes but Dortmund did not take advantage of that opportunity which may not necessarily get the same opportunity next season.

That is why a winning mentality is needed, not only having good players in the squad, the most important thing is mentality, sometimes mentality always goes up and down in a condition, this will be a valuable experience for Dortmund and maybe it should be better next season to won the league. Dortmund only lost on goal difference and it's not really that embarrassing, it's just that it might disappoint all the supporters.

[asriloni]

I also think that the outcome of this season was very tragic for Borussia Dortmund. The sad reality in the Bundesliga is, that other teams only have a chance to become Bundesliga champion if Bayern Munich is playing a very very bad season for their standards because otherwise they are just to strong. This season that was the case and still Borussia Dortmund somehow managed to screw it all up in the very last match. I think they won't get another such big chance again so quickly.

Agreed, dortmund was winning bundesliga a decade ago. It needs a decade for dortmund to make its comeback but it was failed in the last match. Reus is feeling so badly with dortmund at the last match. I think that terzic shall have learned about how to make the mentality from the players even stronger. It seemed to me if all of dortmund's players were so nervous at the last game. Will dortmund needs another decade to make the same achievement like the previous season?
In my opinion that if dortmund must be pushing itself even harder than before. It's caused by bayern will able to come back again this season.
I ain't think if bayern will repeat the bad season again like the previous season.

[bestcoins1]

Many people still don't understand the tactics used by some clubs like Dortmund and Arsenal at some point. It is like a farm to detect and to form talented players then sell them for a nice reward. Haaland was the best example, no one thought that Dortmund continued to win without him but they did win many times without having Haaland in the club.

What you say is very logical and also very reasonable because I personally also wonder why some people don't understand the tactics and business that is run by each team in terms of buying and selling players like Dortmund does. Even though it is very clear that there are other things that the team gets when they sell the best players like Haaland's example and on the other hand Dortmund themselves are also very aware that they can still compete in the Bundesliga even though they have sold the best players because they can still make other players the best to keep themselves strong in the competition.

[len01]

I also think that the outcome of this season was very tragic for Borussia Dortmund. The sad reality in the Bundesliga is, that other teams only have a chance to become Bundesliga champion if Bayern Munich is playing a very very bad season for their standards because otherwise they are just to strong. This season that was the case and still Borussia Dortmund somehow managed to screw it all up in the very last match. I think they won't get another such big chance again so quickly.

Agreed, dortmund was winning bundesliga a decade ago. It needs a decade for dortmund to make its comeback but it was failed in the last match. Reus is feeling so badly with dortmund at the last match. I think that terzic shall have learned about how to make the mentality from the players even stronger. It seemed to me if all of dortmund's players were so nervous at the last game. Will dortmund needs another decade to make the same achievement like the previous season?
In my opinion that if dortmund must be pushing itself even harder than before. It's caused by bayern will able to come back again this season.
I ain't think if bayern will repeat the bad season again like the previous season.

it looks like it's a little difficult for Dortmund to recover from the bad things that have happened in recent seasons, while Bayern Munich is currently reorganizing to strengthen the team's performance, which is very visible in the next few seasons, it looks like Bayern Munich will continue to be strong and Dortmund have no choice but to wait a decade later.

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Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

[bering]

Yes, I will not rule out that Manuel Neuer can survive to an older age, even beyond the age of 40. But of course he has to show progress where he can survive that far so he can still be trusted to be the main goalkeeper in the squad. It takes hard work if he wants to reach the point where he, like Buffon, for example, can still survive at the highest level of competition at the football level.
I'm not going to say he can't do it, but I'm also not going to guarantee he'll be able to continue to exist as the main goal keeper, he himself will decide everything.

Manuel Neuer has became an Germany national team goalkeeper and Bayern Munich goalkeeper for more than 10 years and he can keep his consistency to playing at high level of competition until now and i don't think it will be easy to do so but Neuer can maintain his level and if he recovers then i am sure he will find his shape again and i think Neuer can able to playing at least for next 2 or 3 years before retired and the latest news i have heard is Germany national team manager Hansi Flick has promised a place in the main squad for Neuer if he can recover before Euro 2024

About Bayern Munich goalkeeper position some people has been speculate the future of Yann Sommer because after Neuer got recover probably Sommer will be lost his place as first goalkeeper in Bayern and recently Sommer was linked to Manchester United and although Sommer has been refuse this rumour because he feels happy with Bayern i think he should be thinking to moved because if there is Neuer then Sommer will always be the second choice at Bayern

[tusandii]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

This is just the Domestic League so it's not a great thing when only two big teams always dominate this League but they shouldn't just focus and be proud when they can dominate the Bundesliga because they also have to fight for the Champions League.
When one of the two teams can compete well for the Champions League and manage to have a chance in the final then that's a very good development.

Actually, Dortmund and Bayern have pretty good players, it's just that they still can't compete with other big teams for a prestigious title like the Champions League.

[hyudien]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

I wouldn't be surprised by the transfer of players who contributed a lot to Borussia Dortmund, I wouldn't even be surprised when I saw them lose all their players. lol
Borussia Dortmund puts profit above performance, so they have always done things against many people's wishes in order for them to keep their quality players. I really understand that in the world of football, business cannot be separated, but they also have to think about achievement. If they can't put achievement before profit, then at least they can equalize the two, meaning they have to get both things.
But until now we can see how they act, and that makes it difficult for them to compete with Bayern Munich.

[Jody.Drummer]

Yes, I will not rule out that Manuel Neuer can survive to an older age, even beyond the age of 40. But of course he has to show progress where he can survive that far so he can still be trusted to be the main goalkeeper in the squad. It takes hard work if he wants to reach the point where he, like Buffon, for example, can still survive at the highest level of competition at the football level.
I'm not going to say he can't do it, but I'm also not going to guarantee he'll be able to continue to exist as the main goal keeper, he himself will decide everything.

Manuel Neuer has became an Germany national team goalkeeper and Bayern Munich goalkeeper for more than 10 years and he can keep his consistency to playing at high level of competition until now and i don't think it will be easy to do so but Neuer can maintain his level and if he recovers then i am sure he will find his shape again and i think Neuer can able to playing at least for next 2 or 3 years before retired and the latest news i have heard is Germany national team manager Hansi Flick has promised a place in the main squad for Neuer if he can recover before Euro 2024

About Bayern Munich goalkeeper position some people has been speculate the future of Yann Sommer because after Neuer got recover probably Sommer will be lost his place as first goalkeeper in Bayern and recently Sommer was linked to Manchester United and although Sommer has been refuse this rumour because he feels happy with Bayern i think he should be thinking to moved because if there is Neuer then Sommer will always be the second choice at Bayern

He has indeed earned a place in the national team, and he must be able to answer the trust placed in him to be able to show that they were not wrong to wait for Manuel Neuer to recover from the injury he had. I think it will take time for him to find his best form in the game, because usually injuries are one of the consequences that prevent players from returning to their original form in the game. How many players end up not being able to find their shape again after returning from injury.
Maybe that's what I can say because he is a goalkeeper, so unlike other players who have a position in front of the goalkeeper.

[sana54210]

One of Dortmund most profitable deals in recent years Bellingham official move to Real Madrid before the end of the month represents a significant milestone for the team. Their strategic acumen and excellent decision making are demonstrated by their success. Even though they might not be able to win the Bundesliga this year Dortmund tactical decision to play Bellingham ensures that they can still accomplish their primary goal. The club astute business acumen is demonstrated by their ability to make substantial profits from the sale of young gifted players like Bellingham. Even though it was disappointing to lose the championship to Bayern Munich in what on paper should have been an easy match the traumatic finale to the season will live in memory. Terzic remarkable performance during the season should comfort fans and the board though as Dortmund came perilously close to winning the desired title.

The only problem left right now is that they will need to replace him. Even if you can't get someone as good as Jude, you need to cover that up improving another position or maybe multiple. Dortmund did better and ended closer after Haaland left, we need to keep remembering that, of course Bayern was worse as well, but in the end Dortmund got 2 more points without Haaland than with Haaland, that's still a story to remember.

How did they do that? Well they got Haller and he was worse than Haaland of course, but instead they had an improving Jude along with a few more better transfers that made other positions better. So, if they end up with something like 75 points or so this year, that would probably be enough for a title, and that's what they should focus on.

[hahay]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

One thing I really want to see is that it is not easy for Dortmund to let go of its key players, because if Dortmund dares to make the choice to keep their key players by increasing their salaries then of course Dortmund will be able to win a trophy. Because even though Dortmund always sell their key players, but the reality is that Dortmund can still compete well in the Bundesliga title race. Therefore, if only one season Dortmund can retain all its key players, then of course Dortmund will be able to stop Bayern Munich's successive title success.

[Jackl87]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

I think we should not forget where Borussia Dortmund is coming from. In the late 1990s and the early 2000s they were at the same level as Bayern Munich or maybe even ahead of them a few times. In order to do that they had to make very high debts though which almost led them into bankruptcy afterwards. Then Jürgen Klopp came and the club has risen again and they even made it into the Champions League final back in 2013. Still they are pretty far behind Bayern in terms of financials.

[rahmad2nd]

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I think we should not forget where Borussia Dortmund is coming from. In the late 1990s and the early 2000s they were at the same level as Bayern Munich or maybe even ahead of them a few times. In order to do that they had to make very high debts though which almost led them into bankruptcy afterwards. Then Jürgen Klopp came and the club has risen again and they even made it into the Champions League final back in 2013. Still they are pretty far behind Bayern in terms of financials.

A little flashback to the history of Dortmund. if I'm not mistaken, Dortmund is one of the most successful clubs in Germany with a score of 8 German league titles, only losing to Bayern Munich.  they have also won the Champions League trophy once.
The 90s were the golden age of Dortmund, and in the 200s Dortmund became the first German club to open publicly or go public. they won the Bundesliga trophy in 2002 and were runners up in the UEFA Cup in the same year. but after that they experienced a drastic setback, financial problems again became the cause. debt that many make Dortmund have to look for loans so as not to go bankrupt. in short, Dortmund was given a loan by rival Bayern Munich.

During the Jurgen Klopp era, Dortmund's achievements immediately increased. in short, Klopp's arrival made Dormund excel again. well, as you said Dortmund is far behind Bayern in financial terms. that's why, they changed their business style to create more young talents to become stars and then they sell. that way, Dortmund does not rely on ticket sales and sponsors. and now, they are one of the clubs that always generate high profits. Naturally, if their current priority is not focused on the trophy.

[Docnaster]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

You rightly understand my point on why it'll be very difficult for Borussia Dortmund to end Bayern Munich dominance in the German Bundesliga.
It takes a consistent to achieve success and if the club's management doesn't stop that their traditional transfer policy, it simply means they're more concerned with how much the club makes from those transfers instead of helping the club win major football honours

[ILuckyGuyI]

Mate, it is still early to be sure of anything about Tuchel in fact. Because he arrived at Bayern Munich quite late in the season. Nobody was able to understand what Bayern Munich were trying to achieve with this action in the middle of important tournaments. Kahn and Salihamidzic got sacked for this reason most probably. Because it was a really huge risk to take there.

Of course they still won the Bundesliga title but it was so lucky for them as Dortmund threw away their chance just like that. I don't blame Tuchel for these runs in the Bundesliga and Champions League both. He didn't have much time to do really nice things. But in the upcoming season he will have nothing more than time to execute the plans in his mind.

I believe Tuchel is a really decent manager also. But let's say he still couldn't manage to have a good chemistry with the players then I would understand if Bayern Munich decide to sack him too.

It will be interesting for me to look at Tuchel if Bayern make some serious reinforcements to the squad. So far, nothing has been heard on this subject, if Bavaria does not strengthen, then I am sure the next season will be no less difficult (even if Bayern wins the Bundesliga confidently) and the chances in the Champions League will be even less than this year. Bayern now is Real Madrid last year - without big changes in the squad, the problems will only accumulate.

There is a simple solution to solve most of their issues for next season in fact. It is to make the right decision about the striker transfer in this transfer window. As I always say, the striker kind Bayern Munich would make use of the most is a complete forward. Comparing the times with Lewandowski to now, there is just a huge gap.

Choupo-Moting has done his best and he has been quite beneficial from time to time. But this isn't enough for the team as we have seen. Mane has also been given a chance in the position but he was also not as effective as he is while playing as winger.

With the right transfer and a decent management by Tuchel, Bayern Munich should be good to go. 

[klidex]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

You rightly understand my point on why it'll be very difficult for Borussia Dortmund to end Bayern Munich dominance in the German Bundesliga.
It takes a consistent to achieve success and if the club's management doesn't stop that their traditional transfer policy, it simply means they're more concerned with how much the club makes from those transfers instead of helping the club win major football honours

There is no reason for Borussia Dortmund to be able to thwart Bayern Munich's dominance, while Dortmund last season sold their best players and this is Dortmund's mistake in not being able to take the opportunity in their last game against Mainz which could give pride of being the Bundesliga champion last season but failed because of a draw.

[flipme]

Borussia Dortmund is known to be selling their best players in almost all the summer transfer windows and that is why Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the German Bundesliga for more seasons to come.
Jadon Sancho was sold last two summer before Erling Haaland was sold to Manchester City last summer and now Jude Bellingham has left for Real Madrid. I think the club's transfer strategy isn't concerned by the success of the team rather they're more concerned by how much they make as gains when they sell these players. They might also be lucky raise another great player before the end of next season and still sell him at the end of the season

If they were able to retain the good players, Bayern could not have been dominating the league for years. It takes a consistent team to have great success, it's only financially good to sell a player who can make money without using it to another team.
On the one hand, they are doing something quite logical, they always sell their players when they are at their most valuable and make a lot of money. But their chances of becoming champions are dwindling

I think there is something worse for them. Some of these successful players have transferred directly to Bayern Munich in the past years. Of course, I do not judge the players. When the players see that Bayern Munich wants to transfer them, they immediately want to be transferred to the champion club. I think this is very natural. However, Borussia Dortmund seems to be in a bad cycle in this regard. Lewandowski, Hummels and Götze were some of the best-known examples of this.

So, I don't think they want to sell football players just to make money. They are not the right address for football players who want to achieve success by winning the championship. For this reason, they have a hard time keeping the good players they have in their squads.