Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Strongkored]

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

Since 2000 it really belongs to Bayern Munich, only a few seasons where they failed to win the Bundesliga, and Borussia Dortmund have won the Bundesliga twice in a row when Jurgen Klopp was with them as manager after that you will only see the name Bayern Munich as Bundesliga champions, maybe Borussia Dortmund can stick with their strategy of making money and continuing to sell their best players at high prices but if they are also managed by a manager who is good at strategy then becoming a Bundesliga champion by sticking to their business style of making money can still be done, maybe by spending more money to bring in a better manager than the current one will allow them to become champions, I mean Edin Terzić is a good manager because he has led Dortmund to win the 2020-2021 DFB Cup but they need more than that.

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[tusandii]

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What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

In a football club money is very important because club finances can make the club stronger by buying qualified players.
This happened to Dortmund maybe because they really wanted and focused on the Champions League which is a very valuable League for any club.
But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.

[Juggy777]

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What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

In a football club money is very important because club finances can make the club stronger by buying qualified players.
This happened to Dortmund maybe because they really wanted and focused on the Champions League which is a very valuable League for any club.
But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.

@tusandii we have held this discussion many times and each season they have repeated the same mistakes i.e. selling their best player’s and now with Jude gone I wonder how will they compete in the Bundesliga. Furthermore unless they stop selling and buy a ready made superstar this season I doubt that we will see them win the Bundesliga this season too and I guess that means Bayern will comfortably win the Bundesliga again.

[len01]

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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy

It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

[Velvet78]

It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

Bellingham has already been signed by Real Madrid yeah. And it looks like there are more to come as well. However losing one of their important players has made them weaker temporarily. But I expect Dortmund to fill his place with another talented player as soon as possible.

In the same way we will see if there will be others leaving the team as well. Dortmund are full of skilled young players and they always keep the squad that way to apply their vision. We will always continue to see this kind of players coming and leaving. It might be sad to lose some of them right away maybe but at least the profit is really big.

[Bobrox]

But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.

For all football teams, money is most important thing and with much money new teams can buy any kinds of trophies,  regarding with Manchester City progress winning Primer League until UEFA Champion League tittle can't separated how their build teams with much money. I think Bundesliga have change the rule of owner sharing with how much percent and new investor has chance for getting more than 50% of ownership in one team.

Dortmund seems priority with the money than winning tittle on every season, looks with current transfer players Dortmund leave by many star player every season and selling them with higher values make them earn much profit for every season. Dortmund have balanced with business but looks they can't dominance for winning Bundesliga on every season.

[Cryptmuster]

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

Dortmund always stays afloat because they not only sell but also buy young and promising players, they buy players with great potential and help them to open up. Of course Dortmund benefit from this, but I also see that they are not focusing on the fact that selling a few players will affect their results, because the main team stays and brings new players to their usual level. It's not only Dortmund that does this, and if this model works for them, then they will use it.

[rendravolt]

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Dortmund seems priority with the money than winning tittle on every season, looks with current transfer players Dortmund leave by many star player every season and selling them with higher values make them earn much profit for every season. Dortmund have balanced with business but looks they can't dominance for winning Bundesliga on every season.

No one was surprised by the statement and in fact Dortmund openly do their business every transfer window comes around. Maybe what makes me a little confused is whether these Dortmund fans have never protested against the club owner's policy of always selling their star players when they are a little closer to winning the Bundesliga title if these players can last longer at Signal Iduna Park. We know very well that so far Dortmund has been very smooth in doing its business and has always generated hundreds of millions of euros every season.

[asriloni]

Dortmund seems priority with the money than winning tittle on every season, looks with current transfer players Dortmund leave by many star player every season and selling them with higher values make them earn much profit for every season. Dortmund have balanced with business but looks they can't dominance for winning Bundesliga on every season.

It has very strong relationship with the history of dortmund.

https://www.firsttouchaf.com/newsroom/2020/1/29/how-did-borussia-dortmund-become-a-factory-for-talent#

Dortmund was not care about getting a trophy but the problem if it must also try to be aware with the condition from financial of club. Dortmund is not a club that owned by billionaire like other league. Dortmund has been owned by its fans and the income were not so big for the club to keep playing and pay all of expenses that already made by the club. Developing and investing in youth talent has become the only solution for dortmund right now.

The club can survive till now. I remember that when dortmund was bailed out caused by it has been facing very huge debt and dortmund use the strategy to use young talent as investment to leave from such problem and it worked.

[Davidvictorson]

The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

I know that Borussia Dortmund is considering roster changes to strengthen their chances of becoming champions having finished second place in the Bundesliga. Some players I feel should still be retained in the team are Tom Rothe, and Giovanni Reyna. Giovanni Reyna was such a phenomenal impact player. I believe he can deliver in the next season. I'm looking positively towards the new season. Dortmund have already strengthened the team with Ramy Bensebaini, which in my estimation is a big upgrade from Raphael Guerreiro. I think that Alvarez would be a great replacement for Bellingham, although they might need to sign another player as well.

[Davian144]

That has even happened a long time ago, even though Dortmund have been able to perform well in every season even though they couldn't become champions, they have consistently been at the top of the Bundesliga in the last few seasons and can compete strictly on the European stage, it's just too bad that this team is not really built to be a champion.
What happened last season was very disappointing, only a little away they could become champions but had to fail in front of their own supporters.

For next season, I think Dortmund will not change, they will still be Bayern's shadow.

Maybe next season there will be a very significant difference for the Dortmund team, because they still have the motivation and enthusiasm to fight to become champions in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund is expected to be able to close the gap for Bayern Munich so that Dortmund will no longer be a shadow of Bayern Munich next season. And I'm sure Dortmund will be able to do very well next season if Dortmund still have very high consistency to win the Bundesliga.

[bering]

I think Xabi Alonso is one of the few successful coaches who became a coach after becoming a football player. If we count Xavi, who also gave Barça a new tactical advantage, this is a success that has been less in recent years. I look at the extension of the contract by Bayer Leverkusen with certainty. I expect them to have great success this year as well.

Xabi was successful coach for leverkusen to help it leave from relegation zone. it's different personal. Xabi was able changing leverkusen so much. It's not only from the descipline of players, increasing the ball possessions owner by the club through implementing tiki taka to the leverkusen and many more.
I think that if leverkusen gonna be one if strong contender to win the league like bayern or dortmund. As far as i know that if this is also making xabi is also making the club to be even more careful with its defending strategy.
Xabi may have bette squad this year compared with last year. As you can see that xabi already signed during the middle of season and he has no choice to make some transfers caused by the transfer season already closed.

The fact that if xabi may potentially push its club to be able compete in the top place against bayern and dortmund next season.

Leverkusen and Xabi had experience fantastic moment last season because under Xabi Leverkusen has been change became an strong team in Bundesliga and Xabi has successfully to improved Leverkusen position from 16th place to 6th place at the end of competition and it automatically make them will playing at european competition and in europa league too Xabi has made a history with bringing Leverkusen to reach semifinal match and this is their first time since 21 years ago

Some people considers Xabi is potential coach and they even predict someday if Klopp leave Liverpool then he can be considering as the replacement of Klopp and about him and Leverkusen i am quite optimistic Leverkusen will be performing better next season under him especially Leverkusen almost be certain to get new player Granit Xhaka from Arsenal but Xabi too have to ensure other key players will be staying because some players such as Moussa Diaby and Jeremie Frimpong has been targetted by big team just like Manchester United

[Unknown Op]

The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

I know that Borussia Dortmund is considering roster changes to strengthen their chances of becoming champions having finished second place in the Bundesliga. Some players I feel should still be retained in the team are Tom Rothe, and Giovanni Reyna. Giovanni Reyna was such a phenomenal impact player. I believe he can deliver in the next season. I'm looking positively towards the new season. Dortmund have already strengthened the team with Ramy Bensebaini, which in my estimation is a big upgrade from Raphael Guerreiro. I think that Alvarez would be a great replacement for Bellingham, although they might need to sign another player as well.

It is critical to keep hold of key players who have showed tremendous promise as Borussia dortmund explores roster adjustments to improve their title chances after placing second in the Bundesliga. Tom Rothe has demonstrated his value and ought to be a crucial member of the team offering steadiness and consistency to the group. In the meantime Giovanni Reyna has distinguished himself as a terrific impact player with exceptional talent and maturity above his years. There is every reason to think that he will continue to succeed in the future season given his talent and tenacity. Ramy Bensebaini improves upon Raphael Guerreiro and boosts the defensive line thereby strengthening the team. While Alvarez might be a good Bellingham replacement Dortmund would be well to consider the idea of adding another player to add depth and competition to the club. With these adjustments Dortmund can look to the future with hope and pursue excellence in the upcoming season.

[Jackl87]

Dortmund always stays afloat because they not only sell but also buy young and promising players, they buy players with great potential and help them to open up. Of course Dortmund benefit from this, but I also see that they are not focusing on the fact that selling a few players will affect their results, because the main team stays and brings new players to their usual level. It's not only Dortmund that does this, and if this model works for them, then they will use it.

That is definitely true. As far as i know Borussia Dortmund is a club that is financially very healthy nowadays. They don't have debts like Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and also most english Clubs. The only Club that is healthier in terms of financials is Bayern Munich.
So in terms of finances Dortmund is doing the right thing in buying young and promising players and then sell them for huge money if they are developing great.
The problem is, that you will never become a absolute top club that way. For that you need to keep your best players.

[Jody.Drummer]

Dortmund always stays afloat because they not only sell but also buy young and promising players, they buy players with great potential and help them to open up. Of course Dortmund benefit from this, but I also see that they are not focusing on the fact that selling a few players will affect their results, because the main team stays and brings new players to their usual level. It's not only Dortmund that does this, and if this model works for them, then they will use it.

That is definitely true. As far as i know Borussia Dortmund is a club that is financially very healthy nowadays. They don't have debts like Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and also most english Clubs. The only Club that is healthier in terms of financials is Bayern Munich.
So in terms of finances Dortmund is doing the right thing in buying young and promising players and then sell them for huge money if they are developing great.
The problem is, that you will never become a absolute top club that way. For that you need to keep your best players.

There's nothing really wrong with what Borussia Dortmund did and it's perfectly legal. But like you said, they're not going to be an absolute top club when doing something that requires them to start from the bottom again. Let's say they have a strong team foundation to maintain balance when they lose their valuable players, but they can only be at that level forever because to get other great players they have to build again from the bottom. It's another case when they have players who are ready to fight, it will benefit them and in terms of playing they will definitely continue to improve.

[marcous]

That is definitely true. As far as i know Borussia Dortmund is a club that is financially very healthy nowadays. They don't have debts like Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and also most english Clubs. The only Club that is healthier in terms of financials is Bayern Munich.
So in terms of finances Dortmund is doing the right thing in buying young and promising players and then sell them for huge money if they are developing great.
The problem is, that you will never become a absolute top club that way. For that you need to keep your best players.

Statistically, in the Bundesliga, Dortmund remains a strong challenger to Bayern Munich in the title race, much like Real Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga. In fact, this season they narrowly missed out on winning the Bundesliga due to goal difference, which ultimately granted the title to Munich. Over the past nine years, Dortmund has consistently finished in the top four, except for the 2014-2015 season when they finished in seventh place. These statistics at least help Dortmund avoid the label of being a "selling club."

Regarding the sale of star players and acquiring talented ones, I believe all teams make efforts to retain their star players. Sometimes, high offers from other teams can make management reconsider selling their assets. From the players' perspective, they might also consider joining other top teams for various reasons, such as higher wages, seeking new experiences, and achieving individual milestones that they can attain by joining clubs in more competitive leagues like the English Premier League.

[sana54210]

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

Dortmund always stays afloat because they not only sell but also buy young and promising players, they buy players with great potential and help them to open up. Of course Dortmund benefit from this, but I also see that they are not focusing on the fact that selling a few players will affect their results, because the main team stays and brings new players to their usual level. It's not only Dortmund that does this, and if this model works for them, then they will use it.

If they can keep doing that then it's a good idea but how long could they do that for? I do not think that it would be a smart decision. I think it would be good to sell those players but then they need to build a very young squad to keep repeating that.

Getting a 30 year old to replace the 20 year is a horrible decision and they have done so a few times before. Just because the player they got is great, doesn't change the fact that they are old, it could be even a better player, but still old. They need to get someone maybe even worse, but someone at max 20 years old, that way they can improve the player and then play at UCL and make them worth a lot more and sell them again, that way they can keep making a profit, that's a lot better.

[Awaklara]

That is definitely true. As far as i know Borussia Dortmund is a club that is financially very healthy nowadays. They don't have debts like Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and also most english Clubs. The only Club that is healthier in terms of financials is Bayern Munich.
So in terms of finances Dortmund is doing the right thing in buying young and promising players and then sell them for huge money if they are developing great.
The problem is, that you will never become a absolute top club that way. For that you need to keep your best players.

Statistically, in the Bundesliga, Dortmund remains a strong challenger to Bayern Munich in the title race, much like Real Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga. In fact, this season they narrowly missed out on winning the Bundesliga due to goal difference, which ultimately granted the title to Munich. Over the past nine years, Dortmund has consistently finished in the top four, except for the 2014-2015 season when they finished in seventh place. These statistics at least help Dortmund avoid the label of being a "selling club."

Regarding the sale of star players and acquiring talented ones, I believe all teams make efforts to retain their star players. Sometimes, high offers from other teams can make management reconsider selling their assets. From the players' perspective, they might also consider joining other top teams for various reasons, such as higher wages, seeking new experiences, and achieving individual milestones that they can attain by joining clubs in more competitive leagues like the English Premier League.

however, players who have great potential and are still young will be attractive to other big clubs. this is a competition as well as a business. Dortmund has been running this for a long time. and as a consequence, they are not strong enough to compete with Munich who have dominated the Bundesliga for so long.
Dortmund look comfortable with what they are doing at the moment. but do not know whether the business they are running by selling their best players will continue to do so. however, the Bundesliga is also not as competitive as the Premier League. and it becomes an attraction for young players to try the tougher competition.

[Docnaster]

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Dortmund seems priority with the money than winning tittle on every season, looks with current transfer players Dortmund leave by many star player every season and selling them with higher values make them earn much profit for every season. Dortmund have balanced with business but looks they can't dominance for winning Bundesliga on every season.

No one was surprised by the statement and in fact, Dortmund openly do their business every transfer window comes around. Maybe what makes me a little confused is whether these Dortmund fans have never protested against the club owner's policy of always selling their star players when they are a little closer to winning the Bundesliga title if these players can last longer at Signal Iduna Park. We know very well that so far Dortmund has been very smooth in doing its business and has always generated hundreds of millions of euros every season.

For some seasons now Dortmund haven't won The Bundesliga title and it's due to the lack of potential players capable of overthrowing Bayern Munich who has been their greatest rival of all season. In the case of players-trade, I don't think Fans will remain mute for this long if the club had another lucrative source of generating income. The fans Believe it's their only way of keeping the club going. It isn't their joy that they keep selling star players, Dortmund doesn't have any other reliable sources of income than trading with players.

[sokani]

Dortmund is one club that's known for profiting from the sales of young players. Over the years we have seen them recruit young talents and sold them at a very good price. Dembele, Aubameyang, Sancho, Haaland etc are just few of many players they have profited from. Maybe as long as it is good business at they end of the day the management is okay with it and trophies are given less importance. Because I don't see how a team that wants to compete at the highest level, at the highest competitions and win silvawares have a tradition of selling it's brightest talents. If they don't change from their habit, Dortmund will have no place in europe and Germany.