Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[rahmad2nd]

Leverkusen have made a big progress since Xabi Alonso arrived at the team. They were strolling around the relegation area before he came. People were wondering how successful Xabi Alonso could be. Because he was an inexperienced manager as you know. This was going to be his first proper manager experience and he started with a pretty decent team like Leverkusen.

He came here to take a big responsibility to save this team from the threat of relegation. But he dealt with this situation pretty well. He didn't just make do with making the team get away from the relegation area. They even secured a spot for the Europa League by finishing as the 6th.

The board must be loving him now. However I'm pretty sure next season's target will be top 4. As Xabi Alonso will be in control as of the beginning of a season this time, I think he can do this tough work also.

No one doesn't appreciate what Xabi Alonso, the figure behind the revival of Bayern Leverkusen, has done.

At the beginning of the season, Leverkusen was handled by Gerardo Soene from Switzerland. This coach, was the coach who brought Leverkusen to 3rd position in the 21/22 season as well as being the best record in the last 5 seasons. unfortunately, in the following season Leverkusen experienced a very significant decline in performance. which in the end Leverkusen appointed Xavi Alonso, although the start of his journey was not smooth. however, under his tutelage the Leverkusen team has slowly risen even though they have not yet found their consistency. but in the end, Xabi Alonso was able to bring Bayern Leverkusen to finish 6th in the Bundesliga and at the same time secure a place in the Europa League. I think Xabi will continue to bring Leverkusen in a better direction next season.

Unfortunately, despite having an agreement with Xhaka, Leverkusen will have to wait for Arsenal to get a replacement. Xhaka can be relied upon by Xabi Alonso next season, and maybe some other newcomers. the point is, I like Xabi Alonso's strategy. Alonso has always stressed the importance of ball possession at Leverkusen where the build-up of attacks can start from the back line to the centre-backs, who have an important role as players who initiate attacks. however, they can also play a fast-paced style of game when the opportunity arises. well, just look at how Xabi Alonson will prepare his team in the coming season.

[Tony116]

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But the fact is that Borussia dortmund has so far only been concerned with their finances without thinking about getting the best players to defend and getting a title that can prove that dortmund is capable of having a trophy from the European league or champions league.
But it's very difficult even dortmund are still selling their best players.
I'm just wondering if they are looking for new players to train who have good performance and sell at a better price.

Well, that’s exactly what they do. They are always trying to look for young players who are showing great potential and selling them for a good price later. I strongly believe that this is a big reason why they are never actually improving.

If you are raising a player who is showing good potential and eventually when he becomes one of the world's best, you sell him to your biggest rival, Bayern Munich, you are not going to have much of an accomplishment to talk about. That’s exactly what has been happening with Dortmund. There is a reason why they generally cannot attract good players, and even if they have a good player in the team, he wants to leave when he is approached by other clubs.

[bct_ail]

The DFB Cup matches were drawn at the weekend. Bayern München will play against Preussen Münster who have just been promoted to Liga 3. Dortmund will play against Schott Mainz from League 5 and Leipzig will play against Wehen Wiesebaden. Wehen Wiesbaden have just been promoted to Liga 2. The first round matches will take place from 11-14 August 2023.

[Minecache]

Leipzig have lost Nkunku who is one of their important players to Chelsea now. He was the top scorer of the season in the Bundesliga together with Fullkrug. There are still Andre Silva and Timo Werner in the squad of course. This might be seen as a chance for them to be the main striker of the team. However I still have doubts about them for now.
Because they played in quite many games this season but the number of goals each of them scored is really low compared to the number of games they played. Leipzig need at least one of them to improve their finishing skills more to get ready for next season. This is important to keep their consistency in top 4.

Leipzig is a rich team, even though it doesn't look like they are a successful one, they are a rich club with a great backer and that means they will be capable of getting a very expensive player. One of the seasons (I think it was 2019) they even had like a 200 million budget publicly, probably didn't spent as much, but that's how rich they are. So, I think losing a few players would not really hurt them, they could just end up spending a lot of money to replace those players.
The problem is that, even as a rich club, they can't be as good as Bayern or Dortmund, usually third team, so they need to do something differently, approach the game a bit differently, so that they could end up with a better result, they should be winning the title with that much money.

To be honest, Leipzig's performance isn't as explosive as Bayern Munich's or Dortmund's, but it's still a good performance. Moreover, they do not have the ability to attract players of the same quality as those two teams do.

In my opinion, they should be spending in the same way that Newcastle United has done in recent years. In order to make a good team, they should try to get players who are really good at soccer and also try to make a team with a balanced composition. Additionally, they will also have to bring along a really good coach with them as well. Considering that budget is not such a big issue for them, I do not understand why they do not start doing that as soon as possible.

[Leviathan.007]

Wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season because they had their own policy to sell the players for years that's how they usually earn money. This business helped them to earn money by selling players like Haaland to Manchester City and now other players Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid while we know if Dortmund had both players in this season, by using a player like Haaland they could have much more chance to achieve the Bundesliga title, but they prefer to earn more money instead of this.

Dortmund's goal is not to win the Bundesliga title. Dortmund aim to find talented players. And make them experienced enough to sell them at a high price. Dortmund sold Haaland last season. Dortmund are set to sell Jude Bellingham to Madrid next season. And perhaps Dortmund will make money by selling Haller next season. Had Haaland, Haller, and Jude Bellingham been in Madrid's attack, Dortmund might have won the Bundesliga title last season.

I don't agree with you. For any team, the first goal is usually winning the title in the league and no matter how important is to earn money for them, I mean why they need the money and how they use the money. Dortmund is a team that usually grows young talents and uses the players to sell them and make money. But the first goal is still to win the title in Bundesliga.
No matter how rich they can be by selling players, still they are earning money to reach their goals.

[kro55]

Wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season because they had their own policy to sell the players for years that's how they usually earn money. This business helped them to earn money by selling players like Haaland to Manchester City and now other players Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid while we know if Dortmund had both players in this season, by using a player like Haaland they could have much more chance to achieve the Bundesliga title, but they prefer to earn more money instead of this.

Dortmund's goal is not to win the Bundesliga title. Dortmund aim to find talented players. And make them experienced enough to sell them at a high price. Dortmund sold Haaland last season. Dortmund are set to sell Jude Bellingham to Madrid next season. And perhaps Dortmund will make money by selling Haller next season. Had Haaland, Haller, and Jude Bellingham been in Madrid's attack, Dortmund might have won the Bundesliga title last season.

I don't agree with you. For any team, the first goal is usually winning the title in the league and no matter how important is to earn money for them, I mean why they need the money and how they use the money. Dortmund is a team that usually grows young talents and uses the players to sell them and make money. But the first goal is still to win the title in Bundesliga.
No matter how rich they can be by selling players, still they are earning money to reach their goals.

If Dortmund's goal was to win the title, they wouldn't have sold the best players in the squad every season. But running the club definitely requires money. But if Dortmund's goal was to win the title, the management would have tried to make the squad stronger. But we don't see that. Dortmund builds a squad with young players every season. And tries to make money by selling these players at higher prices in the future. They didn't do that every season when the goal was to win the title.

[posi]

The DFB Cup matches were drawn at the weekend. Bayern München will play against Preussen Münster who have just been promoted to Liga 3. Dortmund will play against Schott Mainz from League 5 and Leipzig will play against Wehen Wiesebaden. Wehen Wiesbaden have just been promoted to Liga 2. The first round matches will take place from 11-14 August 2023.

I am actually genuinely interested to see how these teams are going to perform in the DFB Pokal competition. A lot of smaller teams are taking part in this competition. In the end, I do think that this cup is going to be won by either Bayern Munich, Dortmund, or Leipzig. After all, they are the best teams going into this competition.

Leipzig is certainly the champion of DFB Pokal cup. They are going to try to defend the title. I actually want to see a final between Leipzig and Dortmund. Bayern Munich is obviously the best team but them playing in the final is actually going to take the fun out of it. Unless they end up losing of course. The final between Leipzig and Dortmund is going to be very interesting and also will interest people watching this a lot more compared to any team against Bayern Munich in the final.

[Lafu]

Leipzig have lost Nkunku who is one of their important players to Chelsea now. He was the top scorer of the season in the Bundesliga together with Fullkrug. There are still Andre Silva and Timo Werner in the squad of course. This might be seen as a chance for them to be the main striker of the team. However I still have doubts about them for now.

Because they played in quite many games this season but the number of goals each of them scored is really low compared to the number of games they played. Leipzig need at least one of them to improve their finishing skills more to get ready for next season. This is important to keep their consistency in top 4.

I have no doubts that Leipzig will get some good players for the coming season after they lost Nkunku to Chelsea.
Saddly that he was leaving the german league as i loved to see him playing with Leipzig.
But i guess i readed somewhere that Leipzig already got a striker from Salzburg and its just a switch between the Red Bull Family.

[TheGreatPython]

Wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season because they had their own policy to sell the players for years that's how they usually earn money. This business helped them to earn money by selling players like Haaland to Manchester City and now other players Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid while we know if Dortmund had both players in this season, by using a player like Haaland they could have much more chance to achieve the Bundesliga title, but they prefer to earn more money instead of this.

I don't think there is matter of worry about Borussia Dortmund future because mostly they make their way for the having better results into Bundesliga which is their trading, and they never try to won trophies because this is not in their target now they already sold their best player for this season Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid which bring good profit for them and now their agents are working on for having few youngster which will do good work for them in this season, and they will be able to have youngster in their squad which will helps them for development and then have again huge profit.

Lewandowski, Haaland and now Bellingham all are bought for this purpose with now having their life impressive into their dream clubs, hopefully things will be gone as like this for them, and they will collect huge funds with this way as well.

[dezoel]

Basically, if you believe in Tuchel's quality in building a team, then I'm sure you won't doubt it. Because after all, with Tuchel there is plenty of time to rebuild the team and of course, to improve the team's performance to be as desired as before when it had such good dominance in the Bundesliga. But for me personally I'm sure that Tuchel will be able to do it all well. But what I'm waiting for is whether Tuchel can give Bayern Munich a big chance in the Champions League as well.

This works differently for different coach. Tuchel build a good team in chelsea and earned good record. This achievement was basically on the players signed by Frank Lampard and with the help of former chelsea owner. Tuchel on his own while given chance to sign his own players had challenges. 
Graham potter did well in building Brighton team and the team did extremely well in the last season while chelsea with Brighton couldn't perform well because the team want build by Potter. Tuchel can only build a team who's players selection was already made. He isn't good at signing players.

Every coach is having his own strategy and way of work with Thomas Tuchel is one of the best person in this job and his record it also speaks about him, he was doing good job in Chelsea but sadly due to poor decision by new owner of the Chelsea create good mess-up which ends with worst results because Graham Potter completely fail here after having impressive success in Brighton but now most chances we will be having good results for him here in Bayern Munich.

Because, we all know about tradition of Bayern Munich which is having good history and many big players as well which mostly keep their momentum high right now they are facing some problems but most chances they will be settled this with having their targeted striker which is main agenda for them before start of new season and things could be much better than last season.

[rendravolt]

If Dortmund's goal was to win the title, they wouldn't have sold the best players in the squad every season. But running the club definitely requires money. But if Dortmund's goal was to win the title, the management would have tried to make the squad stronger. But we don't see that. Dortmund builds a squad with young players every season. And tries to make money by selling these players at higher prices in the future. They didn't do that every season when the goal was to win the title.

Dortmund have not lacked funds at all since they managed to sell several talented players 10 years ago and it must be admitted that if Dortmund is a business club, I think the fans have to accept that fact because this business has been going on for a very long time. Dortmund will not win the title if they still have the same mindset "profit is above all else" I think that word is suitable to describe this club. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will remain the only strong candidate to win the Bundesliga every season because they always buy the players needed to win the title and will not sell them before their performance runs out.

[flyingcarpet]

If Dortmund's goal was to win the title, they wouldn't have sold the best players in the squad every season. But running the club definitely requires money. But if Dortmund's goal was to win the title, the management would have tried to make the squad stronger. But we don't see that. Dortmund builds a squad with young players every season. And tries to make money by selling these players at higher prices in the future. They didn't do that every season when the goal was to win the title.

Dortmund have not lacked funds at all since they managed to sell several talented players 10 years ago and it must be admitted that if Dortmund is a business club, I think the fans have to accept that fact because this business has been going on for a very long time. Dortmund will not win the title if they still have the same mindset "profit is above all else" I think that word is suitable to describe this club. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will remain the only strong candidate to win the Bundesliga every season because they always buy the players needed to win the title and will not sell them before their performance runs out.

This is exactly the dilemma that Dortmund fans face. Is Dortmund a club that wants a championship or a club that wants to sell players and make a profit? They cannot do both at the same time. They came very close this year, but it didn't happen. Even if they were champions, they would continue to sell players. It's like a Dortmund tradition. Still, I think they are successful. If their aim is just to make a profit, it's a great club. In the championship race, they take place in the ranking after Bayern Munich and go to the European cups. I think this is success.

[W Jr.]

The DFB Cup matches were drawn at the weekend. Bayern München will play against Preussen Münster who have just been promoted to Liga 3. Dortmund will play against Schott Mainz from League 5 and Leipzig will play against Wehen Wiesebaden. Wehen Wiesbaden have just been promoted to Liga 2. The first round matches will take place from 11-14 August 2023.

Of course, it is clear that the deep-rooted teams of the Bundesliga will pass the rounds unless there is a big surprise. they will probably be on the field with reserve squads and even their backups will be at a level to beat their weak opponents. Will Bayern Munich consider the young Armenian striker in the first squad this year? Because he scored two great goals in the Wales game.

[Cryptmuster]

This is exactly the dilemma that Dortmund fans face. Is Dortmund a club that wants a championship or a club that wants to sell players and make a profit? They cannot do both at the same time. They came very close this year, but it didn't happen. Even if they were champions, they would continue to sell players. It's like a Dortmund tradition. Still, I think they are successful. If their aim is just to make a profit, it's a great club. In the championship race, they take place in the ranking after Bayern Munich and go to the European cups. I think this is success.

There is no dilemma for Dortmund fans, they see their team in the Champions League, they are trying to fight Bayern for the championship, this year they could not win, it's bad, but they showed that despite the fact that they sell top players, they can fight Bayern. Therefore, there should be no dilemma for the fans here, the team does not have any financial problems, thanks to their business model, in my opinion, this suits everyone.

[Jackl87]

The DFB Cup matches were drawn at the weekend. Bayern München will play against Preussen Münster who have just been promoted to Liga 3. Dortmund will play against Schott Mainz from League 5 and Leipzig will play against Wehen Wiesebaden. Wehen Wiesbaden have just been promoted to Liga 2. The first round matches will take place from 11-14 August 2023.

Obviously both Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund are the big favorites in these matches. Still Preussen Münster could definitely be a difficult opponent for Bayern. They have advanced to the third Bundesliga which means they are all full time football professionals and those matches are usually the very first "real" matches of a season when the big clubs maybe are still looking to find new players or the right system and so on. A lot of upsets have already happened in the DFB cup.

[Blitzboy]

Leverkusen have made a big progress since Xabi Alonso arrived at the team. They were strolling around the relegation area before he came. People were wondering how successful Xabi Alonso could be. Because he was an inexperienced manager as you know. This was going to be his first proper manager experience and he started with a pretty decent team like Leverkusen.

He came here to take a big responsibility to save this team from the threat of relegation. But he dealt with this situation pretty well. He didn't just make do with making the team get away from the relegation area. They even secured a spot for the Europa League by finishing as the 6th.

The board must be loving him now. However I'm pretty sure next season's target will be top 4. As Xabi Alonso will be in control as of the beginning of a season this time, I think he can do this tough work also.

I must admit, Xabi Alonso deserves credit for stirring a sea change at Leverkusen, hauling it from near-collapse to a Europa League spot - an exceptional rookie feat, right? Yet, its hard to forget our initial goal of a top 3 finish under Gerardo Soene. The bitter pill is that the season's first half was a catastrophe - we were flirting with relegation!

Alonso introduced a refreshing approach and strategy, making center-backs key to offense initiation and boosting ball possession. Still, the subtleties matter. Can we maintain this climb? Is the top 4 spot within our reach next season?

[shogun47]

The DFB Cup matches were drawn at the weekend. Bayern München will play against Preussen Münster who have just been promoted to Liga 3. Dortmund will play against Schott Mainz from League 5 and Leipzig will play against Wehen Wiesebaden. Wehen Wiesbaden have just been promoted to Liga 2. The first round matches will take place from 11-14 August 2023.

Obviously both Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund are the big favorites in these matches. Still Preussen Münster could definitely be a difficult opponent for Bayern. They have advanced to the third Bundesliga which means they are all full time football professionals and those matches are usually the very first "real" matches of a season when the big clubs maybe are still looking to find new players or the right system and so on. A lot of upsets have already happened in the DFB cup.

Bayern and Dortmund shouldn't have problems although it would not be the first time that a 1. Bundesliga team loses against a 3. Bundesliga team, but i wouldn't expect that. The least comfortable game is probably for Leipzig against Wehen Wiesbaden. 2. Bundesliga clubs aren't as easy to beat as it may sound and Wiesbaden will be 1000% motivated after having been promoted and now getting the chance to knock out Leipzig in their home stadium. it often depends on how those games start I think. An early goal for the favorite usually slows the game down in favor of the favorite. Most of the other games aren't really that interesting.

[Docnaster]

This is exactly the dilemma that Dortmund fans face. Is Dortmund a club that wants a championship or a club that wants to sell players and make a profit? They cannot do both at the same time. They came very close this year, but it didn't happen. Even if they were champions, they would continue to sell players. It's like a Dortmund tradition. Still, I think they are successful. If their aim is just to make a profit, it's a great club. In the championship race, they take place in the ranking after Bayern Munich and go to the European cups. I think this is success.

There is no dilemma for Dortmund fans, they see their team in the Champions League, they are trying to fight Bayern for the championship, this year they could not win, it's bad, but they showed that despite the fact that they sell top players, they can fight Bayern. Therefore, there should be no dilemma for the fans here, the team does not have any financial problems, thanks to their business model, in my opinion, this suits everyone.

As usual has Dortmund gotten a replacement for Jude Bellingham?
They need to feel the gap before the season starts and also Dortmund inability to keep their start players for a long Reem purpose is the reason why they haven't won the Bundesliga for more than a decade.
Assuming the likes of,
Sancho,
Haaland,
Billingham
And others are still in the Dortmund team, do you know how formidable the squad would have been by now?
They sell and recruit and sell again

[Unknown Op]

Wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season because they had their own policy to sell the players for years that's how they usually earn money. This business helped them to earn money by selling players like Haaland to Manchester City and now other players Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid while we know if Dortmund had both players in this season, by using a player like Haaland they could have much more chance to achieve the Bundesliga title, but they prefer to earn more money instead of this.

I don't think there is matter of worry about Borussia Dortmund future because mostly they make their way for the having better results into Bundesliga which is their trading, and they never try to won trophies because this is not in their target now they already sold their best player for this season Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid which bring good profit for them and now their agents are working on for having few youngster which will do good work for them in this season, and they will be able to have youngster in their squad which will helps them for development and then have again huge profit.

Lewandowski, Haaland and now Bellingham all are bought for this purpose with now having their life impressive into their dream clubs, hopefully things will be gone as like this for them, and they will collect huge funds with this way as well.

It is true that Borussia Dortmund has shown they can compete in the Bundesliga and achieve successful results but it would be premature to dismiss any worries about their future. While it is true that they place a premium on dependable performances in their home league, saying they never pursue trophies may overlook their desire to succeed in a variety of contexts. While the sale of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid did result in a sizable profit for Dortmund it is crucial to keep in mind that the club has a history of identifying young talent and developing them into excellent players. Lewandowski Haaland and Bellingham are examples of the kind of talent they have acquired as part of their strategy allowing them to grow and when the time is perfect produce significant profits. However it is important to recognise that sport is unpredictable and a thorough assessment of Dortmund future prospects necessitates taking into account several aspects other than player moves such as management decisions financial stability and league competitiveness.

[tusandii]

Alonso introduced a refreshing approach and strategy, making center-backs key to offense initiation and boosting ball possession. Still, the subtleties matter. Can we maintain this climb? Is the top 4 spot within our reach next season?

For this season Xabi Alonso has brought big changes to Leverkusen and thanks to him Leverkusen are now in sixth place for this season.
If Alonso continues to use some good strategies, it is possible that next season he will be in the top four, but this is not only from Alonso, because the Leverkusen players themselves are very influential in getting to that position.

Even though it is felt that it is very unlikely for Leverkusen to have the top position, at least there is hope for them to reach the top four positions next season.