Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Hirose UK]

Bayern Munich is definitely under huge pressure in the Bundesliga because of Leverkusen and especially after the last games they had against Leverkusen, when Bayern Munich lost the game many players in this team like Neuer were under pressure.
That's why Manuel Neuer said they are still shocked after the result they got against Leverkusen.

Their defeat was quite embarrassing and many people, especially Bayern Munich fans, really regretted this incident because Bayern Munich was strong team but had to lose to Leverkusen, team that was only really in good shape this season.
Yes, you are right that this defeat made the Bayern Munich players experience some pressure and one of them was Neuer because as goalkeeper he had to be willing to concede up to 3 goals and this was failure that made him feel guilty enough.
But this defeat does not mean that Bayern Munich failed because they still have the opportunity to focus on the UCL competition Tuchel will certainly provide direction and encouragement to all his players to learn from this mistake.
Bayern Munich has chance and is one of the candidates in the competition for the UCL title, so there is possibility that the defeat against Leverkusen could also be caused by their focus being completely focused on preparing for the UCL match.

[Hanadawa]

Bayern Munich has chance and is one of the candidates in the competition for the UCL title, so there is possibility that the defeat against Leverkusen could also be caused by their focus being completely focused on preparing for the UCL match.

The match against Leverkusen is an important match. It was the first ranking match. Because if Munich wins the match then they will take over the standings and lead with a 1 point advantage. So I think there is no reason for Tuchel not to focus on that match.

I can say that Munich did perform badly that night. Everyone was betting on Munich winning but the result was completely beyond expectations. That's purely because Munich can't play well, not because they're focused on the Champions League.

Namun kekalahan ini bukan berarti Bayern Munich gagal karena masih berpeluang fokus di kompetisi UCL. Tuchel tentu akan memberikan arahan dan semangat kepada seluruh pemainnya untuk belajar dari kesalahan tersebut.

Yes, of course they are more favored to win the Champions League. But I think City and Madrid are the two most favored teams there. Both teams were able to appear very solid and they also completed their task by beating their opponents in the first leg.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

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If Bayern Munich lose in both Champions League and Bundesliga, I'm sure they will sack Tuchel.

But I assume Bayern Munich management will give 1 more season for Tuchel. Tuchel has a contract with Bayern Munich until 2025.
Moreover, it is not easy to sign a new good coach. Bayern Munich mustn't be too hurry to fire Tuchel.

If Bayern wins nothing this season he is gone, trust me.
Only the failure of Dortmund not winning against Mainz in the last game of last season saved his job, otherwise he would have got fired last summer.
Bayern management has no patience with coaches, they have show that several times in the past year, even though they won the title in Germany they fired coaches when they had a couple of bad week.

But hey, they are still in 2 competitions, Bundesliga has still many games to play and in the UCL they have always shown a lot of spirit. Especially if they win the UCL Tuchel might stay, even though is already quite unpopular.
But mark my words, no title this season and he is 100% gone.

[TastyChillySauce00]

I would agree with that. Bayern is not playing a bad season so far, they just have the misfortune to have an opponent like Leverkusen who have now not lost a game in 31 consecutive matches across seasons and competitions. That's a fantastic run. What makes Tuchel vulnerable, however, is firstly the thin-skinned way in which he repeatedly reacts to critical questions and also the early elimination from the cup against a third division team. If he doesn't reach at least the final of the CL, I don't think he'll be coach at Bayern next season.

Leverkusen clearly doesn't give the opposing team a chance to win, in this way it will be easy for Leverkusen to win in this season. At least I am proud of Leverkusen because they have succeeded in making the Bundesliga this season different from the last few seasons, where only Bayern Munich was always the winner. This season, Bayern Munich could not move against the strength of Leverkusen and lost badly. The distance in points between first and second place is quite different, so it seems impossible for Bayern Munich to take first place.

Sure but im still hoping that leverkusen to win the game. I think that leverkusen is very capable enough to win the game with the prefect result. Leverkusen is still trying so hard to make it happen. The first mission to complete the game has already executed successfully. I hope that leverkusen will able to stay consistent till the end of season.
People were not expecting leverkusen has destroyed bayern with hug gaps and i think this is still continue to happen very soon. Leverkusen is still remain unstoppable this season and it will still continue to happen. Bayern has been dominating the competition very long. it's time for the club to lost its domination.
The absolut dominance from bayern was making the league became very boring and i hope everything will be going perfectly till the end of season. Bayern is having quite big bap to the leverkusen. The chance to surpass it is very small if leverkusen is still dominating the match.
Yet roma can try to push the performance from the club to play better than before. I hope that if we will be getting the good result from this season leverkusen win soon.

[rendravolt]

Bayern Munich is definitely under huge pressure in the Bundesliga because of Leverkusen and especially after the last games they had against Leverkusen, when Bayern Munich lost the game many players in this team like Neuer were under pressure.
That's why Manuel Neuer said they are still shocked after the result they got against Leverkusen.

Of course, Neuer was quite surprised because he had been absent for quite a long time this season and when he returned to Bayern Munich's main squad he certainly wouldn't have been convinced if he hadn't seen it with his own eyes. Conceding 3 goals against Leverkusen is certainly not something you want, especially as a senior goalkeeper at Bayern Munich, it is quite embarrassing. I think Neuer's quality as a goalkeeper has begun to decline and it is time for management to think about a potential replacement next summer.

If I'm not mistaken he also extended his contract at the end of last year so I don't think it was the right decision for Bayern Munich to keep him. I think Neuer should start to be rested in important matches because of course his focus is not like it was a few years ago in guarding the goal. Leverkusen will still surprise no matter who the opponent is and being able to slaughter Bayern Munich is the climax they can achieve this season.

Talking about Manuel Neuer who is still shocked after being out for a long time due to injury, it seems like he has plans to replace him with another goalkeeper is something that is wrong for me because he is recognized as a great goalkeeper and it is natural that he is still shocked when he appears on the field like a player who has just joined the club but this problem of declining performance will not take long because in the near future Manuel Neuer will show his talent again.
I will be more confident if Neuer will be retained in the future because Tuchel still believes that he will remain a goalkeeper who is ready to secure Bayern Munich goal in the Champions League and in Bundesliga matches.

Dude, Manuel Neuer is 37 years old and how long will he be retained by Bayern Munich? Even if he stays until his contract ends in 2025, he will be 38 years old. I don't think it would be good for Bayern Munich if they kept their mainstay goalkeeper for a long time and however every season the level of competition always increases. In this season, Bayern Munich has missed enough so that Leverkusen can make good use of it.

I see the Bundesliga will not be good and neither will the Champions League and you still want to see Neuer stay at Bayern Munich? this really doesn't make sense. Look, other teams have started to improve and have started to forget their legends. They have all moved on from the past and I think Bayern Munich should not continue to be left behind.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

For some reason, in the Bundesliga attention is now focused on Leverksen and Bayern Munich, rather than Dortmund whose existence seems to be sinking. maybe because we are bored of Bayern Munich continuing to win  trophies so when a strong competitor appears the atmosphere makes this season quite interesting. Xabi Alonso brought in a beautiful game when  Bayern Munich were left very frustrated. Sane expression was very  clear that he was disappointed  after conceding in stoppage time  Sane  hit the camera. Lol

However whatever happens to Dortmund at the moment, I am sure that they can still  finish  in the top 3, it  just takes time to see Stuttgart drop  themselves from 3rd place in the standings.

It's only natural that Bundesliga football observers turn their attention to Bayern Munich and Leverkusen because both of them are competing quite closely for the title this season. Surprisingly, Leverkusen was not a strong challenger to Bayern Munich in previous seasons, so the arrival of Xabi Alonso changed everything and now they are the only club whose consistency is much more stable than Bayern Munich, which always dominates the Bundesliga.

Dortmund are increasingly losing their best ability to compete because this season has been inconsistent and they have not shown themselves to be a club that has the opportunity to win the Bundesliga title. Even though they are currently in the top three of the standings, they have no chance of competing with Bayern Munich or Leverkusen.

[SmartCharpa]

In essence, Tuchel still managed to provide good results for Bayern Munich this season but unfortunately, there are teams with better performance and results this season than Bayern Munich . Therefore, I think that whoever is the current Bayern Munich coach will certainly have difficulty matching Bayer Leverksuen. But ya, because Bayer Leverkusen will also still play in the European league and there is also still Liverpool there . So ya, if for example Bayer Leverkusen meet and play against Liverpool there, we just look forward to the results, whether Xabi Alonso will still manage to give good results or not. Because ya, if Bayer Leverkusen get a trable winner this season then yes, ofcourse these results really prove that Bayer Leverkusen this season with Xabi Alonso is the best team and coach.

I agree that Bayern Munich's performance this season hasn't been all that bad, rather it's just that Bayern Leverkusen's performance has improved more than Munich's. Tuchel has been accused by many fans of being to blame for Bayern Munich's not being able to lead the league this season. However, history won't repeat itself forever, so we shouldn't assume that Bayern Munich will consistently win the Bundesliga every year. Leverkusen should take the lead this season because they have shown signs of winning the league. It is not a bad thing if Bayern Munich did not win the Bundesliga title this season; after all, they have won the title 11 times in a row.

Of course this is possible. While everything was going well, they suddenly appointed Thomas Tuchel as the head of the team, and if they cannot get the performance expected from him, sending him off the team may be one of the options. I think Thomas Tuchel is a great coach, but his bad luck never leaves him. We are watching Leverkusen's magnificent performance together this year. Times like this rarely happen, and one happened this year. Unlucky for Tuchel, this was an outstanding Leverkusen performance.

I don't think Bayern Munich management are going to sack Tuchel if they failed to achieve the result they expected from him this season, Bayern Munich are still doing well with 50 points, Bayern Leverkusen only have 5 points ahead of them. Tuchel was appointed as the new Bayern Munich head coach last season and he won the Bundesliga title last season, if they fail to win the league this season, firing him is not the best option.

[Lafu]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

[hahay]

In essence, Tuchel still managed to provide good results for Bayern Munich this season but unfortunately, there are teams with better performance and results this season than Bayern Munich . Therefore, I think that whoever is the current Bayern Munich coach will certainly have difficulty matching Bayer Leverksuen. But ya, because Bayer Leverkusen will also still play in the European league and there is also still Liverpool there . So ya, if for example Bayer Leverkusen meet and play against Liverpool there, we just look forward to the results, whether Xabi Alonso will still manage to give good results or not. Because ya, if Bayer Leverkusen get a trable winner this season then yes, ofcourse these results really prove that Bayer Leverkusen this season with Xabi Alonso is the best team and coach.

I agree that Bayern Munich's performance this season hasn't been all that bad, rather it's just that Bayern Leverkusen's performance has improved more than Munich's. Tuchel has been accused by many fans of being to blame for Bayern Munich's not being able to lead the league this season. However, history won't repeat itself forever, so we shouldn't assume that Bayern Munich will consistently win the Bundesliga every year. Leverkusen should take the lead this season because they have shown signs of winning the league. It is not a bad thing if Bayern Munich did not win the Bundesliga title this season; after all, they have won the title 11 times in a row.

Yes, that is the current result and situation. Unless, if during the previous 11 seasons Bayern Munich did not get a defeat at all in each match, and then this season Bayern Munich got a few defeats in some matches, then of course Tuchel would be the one who would be to blame . But yes, what happened the previous 11 seasons even though Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga trophy but yes, in fact Bayern Munich also still got a few defeats in some of the matches they played in previous seasons.

Therefore, basically Tuchel can still provide a good performance and result for Bayern Munich this season because Bayern Munich also still strong in second place. After all, if for example Bayer Leverkusen is not as good as it is today, I am sure Bayern Munich will also remain at the top of the table. But yes, what can be made, because Bayer Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso has a very extraordinary performance and results this season so ya, no matter how good Bayern Munich will certainly still be difficult to overtake Bayer Leverkusen at the top of the Bundesliga standings this season.

[Ayers]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

Leipzig's performance has been poor in recent times. Leipzig's players are not able to perform well against the big teams. The Leipzig team suffered consecutive defeats against Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Frankfurt. The team then managed to win against Union Berlin, but failed to win against Augsburg. And the team also lost 1-0 against Real Madrid in the Champions League match. Leipzig team will not be able to win against Gladbach if such irregular performance. Gladbach is a strong enough team. And against the big teams, Gladbach's players almost always perform well. I guess Leipzig will probably share the points with Gladbach.

[fuguebtc]

Talking about Manuel Neuer who is still shocked after being out for a long time due to injury, it seems like he has plans to replace him with another goalkeeper is something that is wrong for me because he is recognized as a great goalkeeper and it is natural that he is still shocked when he appears on the field like a player who has just joined the club but this problem of declining performance will not take long because in the near future Manuel Neuer will show his talent again.
I will be more confident if Neuer will be retained in the future because Tuchel still believes that he will remain a goalkeeper who is ready to secure Bayern Munich goal in the Champions League and in Bundesliga matches.

Dude, Manuel Neuer is 37 years old and how long will he be retained by Bayern Munich? Even if he stays until his contract ends in 2025, he will be 38 years old. I don't think it would be good for Bayern Munich if they kept their mainstay goalkeeper for a long time and however every season the level of competition always increases. In this season, Bayern Munich has missed enough so that Leverkusen can make good use of it.

I see the Bundesliga will not be good and neither will the Champions League and you still want to see Neuer stay at Bayern Munich? this really doesn't make sense. Look, other teams have started to improve and have started to forget their legends. They have all moved on from the past and I think Bayern Munich should not continue to be left behind.

As a goalkeeper, I think he can definitely play longer compared to other players. Players who play in other positions have to maintain their physicality a lot and at this age, they can get injured more often. I know that even he gets injured a lot. I think that might be a reason for him which will cause his performance to drop. But if we talk about Bayern Munich, I do not think they should depend on him for any longer and they should definitely look forward to bringing in another really good goalkeeper.  Because even though he is Manual Neuer, he is not going to be able to continue performing really well at the top of the competition.

[KTChampions]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

Playing well and achieving a good result, as we see, are two different things, and by the way, I think Real could improve if it was needed. Leipzig's next game will be against Monchengladbach and I actually think the odds are too optimistic for Leipzig:

1.34 - 5.49 - 7.06

Mönchengladbach is certainly weak this season, but 1.34 after a difficult game with Real, even at home, does not look like good compensation for the risk.

[Ndabagi01]

It's only natural that Bundesliga football observers turn their attention to Bayern Munich and Leverkusen because both of them are competing quite closely for the title this season. Surprisingly, Leverkusen was not a strong challenger to Bayern Munich in previous seasons, so the arrival of Xabi Alonso changed everything and now they are the only club whose consistency is much more stable than Bayern Munich, which always dominates the Bundesliga.

Bayern Leverkusen's performance this season surprised many of us because we didn't expect them to be this good after how they played in the previous Bundesliga season. Last season, they did not even qualify for the Champions League. They are the most talked-about team this season, along with Bayern Munich, because they are the only team capable of competing with Bayern and making it extremely difficult for them to win the Bundesliga as they do every year. They are still unsure whether they can achieve that after Bayern Leverkusen defeated them in their most recent meeting, extending their point lead in the standings.

Dortmund are increasingly losing their best ability to compete because this season has been inconsistent and they have not shown themselves to be a club that has the opportunity to win the Bundesliga title. Even though they are currently in the top three of the standings, they have no chance of competing with Bayern Munich or Leverkusen.

Dortmund are nowhere near winning the Bundesliga this season. They have always given Bayern a difficult time, but their inconsistency this season has prevented them from getting close to Bayern, let alone Leverkusen, who have been playing exceptionally well. They can still qualify for the Champions League, but they are very much unlikely to win the Bundesliga this season.

[indah rezqi]

Leipzig's performance has been poor in recent times. Leipzig's players are not able to perform well against the big teams. The Leipzig team suffered consecutive defeats against Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Frankfurt. The team then managed to win against Union Berlin, but failed to win against Augsburg. And the team also lost 1-0 against Real Madrid in the Champions League match. Leipzig team will not be able to win against Gladbach if such irregular performance. Gladbach is a strong enough team. And against the big teams, Gladbach's players almost always perform well. I guess Leipzig will probably share the points with Gladbach.

After a series of bad results, Leipzig must try their best to create a turning point in performance. In my opinion, losing to Madrid is very natural because their opponents are the rulers of Europe. The match against Monchengladbach will actually not be easy, but what is certain is that Leipzig has the ambition to return to the top four of the standings and compete closely with Dortmund. I think everyone can guess Leipzig steps in the Champions League, most likely they will be eliminated early by Madrid, although the opportunity to create a surprise is quite open.

On the other hand, Leipzig had made Dortmund fans worried, because they had been in the top four of the standings for quite a long time, and Dortmund had fallen out of the top four. The competition to win tickets to the Champions League between Dortmund and Leipzig and Stuttgart adds to the fierce competition in the Bundesliga this season. I feel that the positions in the top two will probably not be touched again, Leverkusen and Bayern Munchen will continue to lead until the end of the season, regardless of who will emerge as champions.

[Jody.Drummer]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

Leipzig's performance has been poor in recent times. Leipzig's players are not able to perform well against the big teams. The Leipzig team suffered consecutive defeats against Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Frankfurt. The team then managed to win against Union Berlin, but failed to win against Augsburg. And the team also lost 1-0 against Real Madrid in the Champions League match. Leipzig team will not be able to win against Gladbach if such irregular performance. Gladbach is a strong enough team. And against the big teams, Gladbach's players almost always perform well. I guess Leipzig will probably share the points with Gladbach.

Leipzig's game when facing Real Madrid in the Champions League did not disappoint, they played well even though they lost this match, so I agree that if they could have a game like they did against Real Madrid, then they would be able to be in 3rd place. However, it is indeed a series of defeats them in the Bundesliga means they have to be shifted and it is difficult to stay in that position.
However, looking at their current opportunities, the opportunities are still very big, but with the caveat that they must be able to play better than the 5 matches they have played and ended up losing a lot.
They lost in the first leg of the Chmpions League, their task will be even more difficult to turn things around in the second leg. Real Madrid is strong and they will play as hosts in the second meeting, it will be more difficult for Leipzig.

[hahay]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

Leipzig narrow defeat against Real Madrid in the Champions League cannot be assumed to be a good performance about Leipzig because afterall,in the Champions League group stage matches, in fact Real Madrid also only won narrowly against Union Berlin. So ya, if you follow the results that occurred in the group stage when Real Madrid played against Union Berlin, the fact that Real Madrid was also only able to beat Union Berlin with a thin score like 1-0 and 3-2. Despite the fact that Union Berlin is at the bottom of the Budesliga table this season, but Union Berlin also to lose only with a narrow score against Real Madrid.

Moreover, the match between Leipzig v Real Madrid was basically Real Madrid key player like Bellingham was also unavailable due to injury. Therefore, the result Leipzig gets in the Champions League lose with narrow score will in no way change anything for Leipzig position in the Bundesliga table because after all, Union Berlin also managed to give a good fight to Real Madrid in the Champions League group stage, but the fact is that Union Berlin is also still in the lower zone of the Bundesliga table at this moment.

[QueenVera]

Dortmund this weekend will playing at Wolfsburg home ground and as a host Wolfsburg performance is quite dissapointing because during 2024 Wolfsburg still unable to gets the winning results because in Bundesliga total Wolfsburg only can collect 4 points from 5 latest matches and for Dortmund indeed compared to last season Dortmund performance is still unstable and Dortmund too have to out from race title with Bayern Munich and Leverkusen but at least gradually Dortmund still able to bounce back and now they will compete for champion league zone spots with Stuttgart and Leipzig

The players just like Niclas Fullkrug or Donyell Malen was being an important players for Dortmund and they were showing impressive performance which help Dortmund to gets several positive results in Bundesliga especially for Niclas Fullkrug his records 10 goals and 7 assists in Bundesliga is proven he is on fire and these players will be available for this match later however regarding the outcomes of this match considering Wolfsburg poor performance and they still unable to bounce back then my prediction is Dortmund will be able to resumes their winning streak and collect 3 points from this match

Dortmund in previous seasons have been very much active and eager to chase the trophy. Although at the moment the chase isn't off, they've still got every chance in store to prove themselves. Their game against Wolfsburg is scheduled for this weekend and it's technically a determinant of how good they've been.

 They've had scaly strides from the start of the season up till now, they've managed to scale through in the UCL, no one knows their fate in the next round but there's certainty that there's difference in their performances now and then too. They're a good team that just needs to find back their balance, there confidence level has dropped big and corrections needs to be made soon enough too. There's no time out to let go off winning chances, it'll keep drawing them back.

[snipie]

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

Playing well and achieving a good result, as we see, are two different things, and by the way, I think Real could improve if it was needed. Leipzig's next game will be against Monchengladbach and I actually think the odds are too optimistic for Leipzig:

1.34 - 5.49 - 7.06

Mönchengladbach is certainly weak this season, but 1.34 after a difficult game with Real, even at home, does not look like good compensation for the risk.

Odds are sometimes hilarious. Yesterday I saw in Ligue 1 for exemple Lyon odds are better than Nice ones. I don't know if these odds changed or not because Lyon are bad this season and Nice are the second in the ranking.. Anyway, they have a reason for that for sure!
In this Bundesliga round, I am curious whether Borussia Dortmund could keep positive results and win against Wolfsburg or not. Odds are better for Dortmund but not that reassuring comparing to Leverkusen or Bayern Munich.

[Oluwa-btc]

Bayern Munich is definitely under huge pressure in the Bundesliga because of Leverkusen and especially after the last games they had against Leverkusen, when Bayern Munich lost the game many players in this team like Neuer were under pressure.
That's why Manuel Neuer said they are still shocked after the result they got against Leverkusen.

Fvck Manuel Neuer truly, lol. They was two goals down and he went out if his eighteen yard box to compete for that ball? What was he thinking honestly?
That was actually unnecessary, it'll have been understandable if it was a goal down but this was close to the end of the game and he went out if his goal so he could be called a hero?

How come he is not perplexed over his own actions?

Further more, I must say that these players are joking and Thomas Tuchel is yet another name to be blamed and I have said what I've said.

[Leviathan.007]

Bayern Munich is definitely under huge pressure in the Bundesliga because of Leverkusen and especially after the last games they had against Leverkusen, when Bayern Munich lost the game many players in this team like Neuer were under pressure.
That's why Manuel Neuer said they are still shocked after the result they got against Leverkusen.

Fvck Manuel Neuer truly, lol. They was two goals down and he went out if his eighteen yard box to compete for that ball? What was he thinking honestly?
That was actually unnecessary, it'll have been understandable if it was a goal down but this was close to the end of the game and he went out if his goal so he could be called a hero?

How come he is not perplexed over his own actions?

Further more, I must say that these players are joking and Thomas Tuchel is yet another name to be blamed and I have said what I've said.

I'm sure if we talking about a few years ago when Neuer was the best goalkeeper in the world you couldn't say any of these about him.
Neuer is definitely far from the good days he had before and he is not young anymore, also he is back in the good form and after a long time of being injured but I think Neuer was not the player to be blamed and they lost it because Leverkusen had a better coach like Xabi Alonso and better motivation in this team.