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February 20, 2024, 07:36:03 PM
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Bayern Munich chances of maintaining its dominance as rulers of the Bundesliga are very low. Leverkusen is still consistently at the top of the standings, and is still unbeaten in 22 Bundesliga matches. Now Leverkusen chance of breaking the dominance of its competitors has reached more than 70%, Bayern decline will give them the freedom to move forward to secure the trophy and create club history. The defeat to Bochum has put Thomas Tuchel under heavy pressure, the guarantee of his position may be in the second round match against Lazio in the Champions League competition. If Bayern fails to advance to the quarter finals, Thomas Tuchel's tenure could end prematurely.


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February 20, 2024, 07:40:16 PM
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Munich has lost to Frankfurt and Bochum. I think other teams in the Bundesliga will try to copy the tactics these two teams used to beat Munich. This will be a challenge for Tuchel to rotate players and change the team's playing tactics if he no longer wants to lose. The next matches are against Leipzig and Freiburg. Both teams have a chance to beat Munich if Munich is still in this bad form.
Actually I really don't no what is happening to Bayern Munich because with how impressive Bayern Munich has been since the season started but I'm surprised with there sudden decline of performance, imagine how a small club as Bochum will outperform them and at the end win Bayern Munich, it has become crystal clear that Bayern Munich is no longer the impressive club we use to no because is very shocking seeing that Bayern Munich will lose to a club like Bochum, right now they are no longer in a competition with Bayern Leverkusen because with the point Bayern Leverkusen have there is no way Bayern Munich will come close to them.
No one really understands what happened to Bayern Munich because they have great strength but it seems like it disappeared in an instant, but I see this from the team's motivation side, because Leverkusen is very strong this season, making it seem like Bayern Munich has given up on chasing them. especially when Bayern Munich lost badly when they visited Leverkuse headquarters.
Bayern Munich faces big problems. They have to accept Leverkusen's leadership. Leverkusen has never been defeated in the league yet and they are 8 points ahead of Bayern. That's why Bayern Munich is having a lot of trouble. I think from now on Leverkusen will not give the cup this season. We can say that Leverkusen is the champion this year.

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February 20, 2024, 07:50:51 PM
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Please discuss Upamecano. Another red card? A pattern of bad luck is costing the club big time. Tuchel deserves criticism now that Leverkusen is 8 points ahead. It seems like a bigger issue than Tuchel or Upamecano. Is it team morale, strategy, or something else?
And this season Bayern Munich will be threatened without a title. They lost the German Cup, in the league they have a wide enough gap in points. Then for the UCL, Munich doesn't convince me either. From the sources I've read, this is the first time Munich have lost 3 matches directly since 2015.  There is no problem for the front line, as Kane continues to be productive until now. Tuchel seems to have to be brave to experiment with his players. There has been no news of dismissal, it seems Bayern want to give Tuchel a chance. Maybe if he continues to be bad he will be the same as Julian Nagelsmann.

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February 20, 2024, 07:56:22 PM
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Bayern Munich faces big problems. They have to accept Leverkusen's leadership. Leverkusen has never been defeated in the league yet and they are 8 points ahead of Bayern. That's why Bayern Munich is having a lot of trouble. I think from now on Leverkusen will not give the cup this season. We can say that Leverkusen is the champion this year.
If it were not for such a significant dominance of Bayer, then probably no one would have said that Bayern now has problems, although they lost the last three matches and they have clearly lost their chances of competing with Bayer for the championship, and have a very precarious, but fixable, position in the Champions League. Bayer will be the champion, this cannot be corrected, but all is not lost in the Champions League, they need to try to correct the situation.

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February 20, 2024, 07:59:38 PM
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No one really understands what happened to Bayern Munich because they have great strength but it seems like it disappeared in an instant, but I see this from the team's motivation side, because Leverkusen is very strong this season, making it seem like Bayern Munich has given up on chasing them. especially when Bayern Munich lost badly when they visited Leverkuse headquarters.
We can not understand the composition of Bayern Munich because they're elite shaky team. Xabi Alonso doesn't rest until his target is accomplished. He keeps high hopes of winning the Bundesliga title with unbeaten run. That's possible but they need to put more efforts because it's definitely not going to be an easy run. Leverkusen are surpassing all measures this season, they're striving ahead of their opponents, currently balanced top position on the Bundesliga table. Bayern Munich are not in form, it's clear because they're having difficulties in winning matches but Thomas Tuchel looks forward to fixed them.



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February 20, 2024, 07:59:51 PM
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No one really understands what happened to Bayern Munich because they have great strength but it seems like it disappeared in an instant, but I see this from the team's motivation side, because Leverkusen is very strong this season, making it seem like Bayern Munich has given up on chasing them. especially when Bayern Munich lost badly when they visited Leverkuse headquarters.

In essence, it is not uncommon for even very strong teams to not always win their matches. yeah, like the Leverkusen Bayern Munich match. ups and downs can happen to any strong team, it was proven that Bayern collapsed when they visited BayArena, Leverkusen's headquarters. basically, we can review what happens when the two teams fight. for example, when Bayern visited BayArena. overall you could say, Munich didn't play as they should. but in reality, some players played quite well, even though only a few of them played. secondly, Tuchel took the risk to play two of their new players, namely Sancha Boey and Alensandar Pavlovic. Boey played for the first time in a crucial match as the main starter, unfortunately he played badly. Alensandar Pavlovic is a 19 year old young player, who is rarely used as a main player. and third, Thucel changed his formation pattern to 3-4-2-1.

I don't know what Thucel was thinking at that time, but what is certain is that Bayern lost with a humiliating score. in this match, the player factor, the role of the coach, was one of the causes of Bayern Munich's defeat. after that, Munich experienced another series of defeats against Lazio in the UCL, losing against Buchum in the Bundesliga. plus, Xavi Alonso's team is in its best performance. which in the end they were able to overthrow Munich at the BayArena. as a result, Leverkusen is currently 8 points ahead. and it seems, it will be a difficult problem for Bayern to catch up on the points difference between them. even so, Munich hopes Leverkusen will slip in some of their matches. but we'll see, the competition is still going on.

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February 20, 2024, 08:09:05 PM
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It can't be just Tuchel's fault, I do agree that he is not managing the team all that great but at the same time I believe that the players are not as good as they used to be AND they have injury issues. When you give a manager a team that is getting older and not playing as well as they used to, and a lot of injured players then the manager could do only so much during the same period. He had just a few bad games in a row, rest of the season he was fine.

I am not here to defend Tuchel and say that he is an amazing manager, he is alright, should he be fired and get a new and hopefully better manager? Sure, that could help if they can find someone better than him, that's not the point, they need to change players as well, and even with same players, without injury, they could do better.
Tuchel is the person most responsible for the ups and downs of Bayern performance. But I agree not to blame him completely, this is dynamic football where a team doesn't always dominate a league, Bayern has dominated the Bundesliga for more than a decade by becoming champion every season. This season Leverkusen emerged as an unexpected force, continuing to pressure Bayern in a different way, unlike what Dortmund had done in previous seasons. Leverkusen consistency makes Bayern look like they are experiencing setbacks, last season when Bayern won the trophy they also suffered five defeats, but Leverkusen was not as strong as they are now.

A condition that is very understandable, because injury factors also play a role in the decline in Bayern current performance. The average age of Bayern players is currently around 26.5, and it is true that several of Tuchel key players are currently in their 30s. Maybe next season Bayern management will have to think about rejuvenating the squad, while for now Tuchel must maximize all the potential of his squad to make things better, especially in the Champions League.

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February 20, 2024, 08:11:40 PM
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It can't be just Tuchel's fault, I do agree that he is not managing the team all that great but at the same time I believe that the players are not as good as they used to be AND they have injury issues. When you give a manager a team that is getting older and not playing as well as they used to, and a lot of injured players then the manager could do only so much during the same period. He had just a few bad games in a row, rest of the season he was fine.

I am not here to defend Tuchel and say that he is an amazing manager, he is alright, should he be fired and get a new and hopefully better manager? Sure, that could help if they can find someone better than him, that's not the point, they need to change players as well, and even with same players, without injury, they could do better.

Of the players, I only see Neuer as a problem (and maybe another defender is needed). Are you saying that Bayern's squad is not good enough to dominate the Bundesliga? But then you will have to look at other teams and see that things are even worse there (even in Bayer). So it turns out that the head coach makes the difference and he is responsible for Bayern’s failures.
In addition, I think you heard that Tuchel has tensions/conflicts with many players, this probably also affects the game, right?

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February 20, 2024, 08:13:16 PM
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Bayern Munich faces big problems. They have to accept Leverkusen's leadership. Leverkusen has never been defeated in the league yet and they are 8 points ahead of Bayern. That's why Bayern Munich is having a lot of trouble. I think from now on Leverkusen will not give the cup this season. We can say that Leverkusen is the champion this year.
If it were not for such a significant dominance of Bayer, then probably no one would have said that Bayern now has problems, although they lost the last three matches and they have clearly lost their chances of competing with Bayer for the championship, and have a very precarious, but fixable, position in the Champions League. Bayer will be the champion, this cannot be corrected, but all is not lost in the Champions League, they need to try to correct the situation.
Yes, I think so too. If they are going to lose the Bundesliga, they will have to focus entirely on the UCL. They have to win the rematch in UCL. Moreover, it is not difficult to predict that Tuchel will be dismissed from the team soon if they are eliminated from the UCL along with the Bundesliga.

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February 20, 2024, 09:01:22 PM
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Yes, I think so too. If they are going to lose the Bundesliga, they will have to focus entirely on the UCL. They have to win the rematch in UCL. Moreover, it is not difficult to predict that Tuchel will be dismissed from the team soon if they are eliminated from the UCL along with the Bundesliga.
Bundesliga tougher than expected for most of the elite teams this season, though they try harder to cope but the best teams comes out winning matches without challenges of fading. I'm talking about Bayer Leverkusen, they're unbeaten in all round competition, I don't see any team competing presently, even the ones we hoped on have failed in all rounds. Bayern Munich are incapable of handling the top competitive run with Leverkusen this season. Currently, Thomas Tuchel is at the verge of losing his job as headcoach for Bayern Munich.

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February 20, 2024, 09:33:20 PM
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Bayern Munich chances of maintaining its dominance as rulers of the Bundesliga are very low. Leverkusen is still consistently at the top of the standings, and is still unbeaten in 22 Bundesliga matches. Now Leverkusen chance of breaking the dominance of its competitors has reached more than 70%, Bayern decline will give them the freedom to move forward to secure the trophy and create club history. The defeat to Bochum has put Thomas Tuchel under heavy pressure, the guarantee of his position may be in the second round match against Lazio in the Champions League competition. If Bayern fails to advance to the quarter finals, Thomas Tuchel's tenure could end prematurely.
If Bayern Munich is eliminated by Lazio, I'm sure it will unseat Thomas Tuchel because they were overshadowed by Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. This year started with high hopes for them, but there are achievements that they could not fully achieve. I feel sorry for Harry Kane, one of the Bayern players, because he chose Bayern to win trophies, but it seems that he still will not have a trophy in his career.

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February 20, 2024, 09:37:48 PM
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But with the current performance owned by Bayern regardless of whether it is an internal problem or not, Tuchel will certainly be one of the people responsible for Bayern's current slump.
In terms of the composition of the players, there must be a slight reshuffle carried out in order to make them stronger but on the other hand Tuchel's leadership in coaching must also be questioned because in 1 season + the end of last season we must be aware that the decline in Bayern's performance has still been very pronounced since the Tuchel era began so that when this season Bayern cannot maintain their dominance and lose the trophy that has been defended for the last 11 seasons then surely Tuchel must be responsible and he could have been fired because of this.
This is an unwritten rule where every club that experiences a decline in performance then surely the coach will be the target of dismissal and this has always happened in every league to date.
Yes, it is true that Tuchel will be the first target of bad criticism for the decline in Bayern Munich's performance and he must take full responsibility for this mistake, but for me this is a little unfair when all the blame must be placed on the coach and we must wisely find out what and who This is actually what has caused Munich's recent decline in performance.
If Tuchel's leadership was considered bad since last season or since he first served as coach he should have been fired a long time ago but in fact Tuchel succeeded in managing this club and reached first place to win the title in the previous season even though it was almost taken by Dortmund but Tuchel managed to take over in the last match.

Yes, maybe that is the main rule if a club experiences a decline in performance, the coach will definitely be blamed, but I think Bayern Munich's management is wiser in making decisions and knows what problems are causing Bayern Munich's performance to be bad.
We'll see later whether Tuchel will really be fired and if not, that means it's true what I said, that there are other problems that are making the Munich players lack enthusiasm and if Tuchel is fired, it means it's true what you said, that the main problem is with the coach.
As I said earlier this is an unwritten rule but it must have happened because after all, one of the coach's duties is to maintain the player's performance so that when there are several things that happen including in the decline in the club's performance then it is definitely the coach who is targeted because after all he has been given the authority to carry out schemes and plans according to what he wants but in the end it still cannot lift performance.
As for why Tuchel was not fired a long time ago because in the end we must have realized that for last season Tuchel was only a substitute in the last few matches so it would be unethical if he just came directly fired and at the beginning of the season Bayern's performance was still quite balanced but towards the middle of the season until now their performance has greatly decreased.

I don't see any irregularities in terms of players because looking at the composition of the current players they are still above average if the benchmark is individual skill then Bayern do not experience anything in terms of players especially since we are aware that with Kane they are also still very good for the attack line, it's just that sometimes the chemistry and schemes that are carried out are sometimes not too suitable to make Bayern's situation, which is always a favorite, its fate is reversed.

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February 20, 2024, 10:16:03 PM
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Yes indeed, because Bayer Leverkusen has a very impressive quality this season, that factor seems to make Bayern Munich get pressure that is difficult to overcome. Because yes, after the big 3-0 defeat against Bayer Leverkusen, the reality is that Bayern Munich looks like they are losing their quality because Bayern Munich may be depressed or something makes their focus destroyed. With situations and conditions like this then yes, of course it will be difficult for Bayern Munich to be able to play well and difficult to get good results for the next two Bundesliga matches.

Because after all, the next two Bundesliga matches are clear, that Bayern Munich get opponents that are not easy like Leipzig and Freiburg. Even worse, after these two matches Bayern Munich will play in the Champion League again and of course with a difficult target, because Bayern Munich must be able to turn things around in the second leg later against Lazio. With such a schedule and a bad situation, then of course Bayern Munich will be doubtful to be able to play well for the next three matches, against Leipzig, Freiburg and Lazio.

Bayer Leverkusen is doing just an excellent job trying to keep momentum and charging for the league. The win against Bayern Munich caused more harm than we imagined. The whole Bayern team are feeling low and with the head coach himself under serious pressure as to be sacked it will cause a disorder in the team and it gives doubt within players then and give Leverkusen more time and space to keep the momentum going.

The next two to three weeks is going to be crucial period for not only Bayern Munich but most importantly the manager Tuchel, Bayern Munich are lining up some names already for either a  permanent replacement or just an interim coach. So this  means  Bayern Munich players must start winning matches to safe Tuchel the job.

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February 20, 2024, 10:44:57 PM
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No one really understands what happened to Bayern Munich because they have great strength but it seems like it disappeared in an instant, but I see this from the team's motivation side, because Leverkusen is very strong this season, making it seem like Bayern Munich has given up on chasing them. especially when Bayern Munich lost badly when they visited Leverkuse headquarters.
I'v observed that whenever a team begins to loose form, they first loose a vital game after which their confidence and morale drops then it's followed by some more series of losses then they will finally loose their form and will take one more time again to get back inform and in the case of Munich they may not be able to get back and meet up because the time is already far spent and the season will end in some weeks from now .

Loosing to Leverkusen was one of the most breakdown I think Munich faced this season because as a team they are trying to stay ahead of and has been a weak team in previous seasons, Munich would have taught that after getting a draw in the first meeting, they will be able to win in this second and sadly for them they lost it and it seems they are yet to recover from the shock because after that meeting their performance has dropped subsequently and it's looking like they may just be going through series of further losses after now and most liable, may not be able to win the trophy as the defending champions this season.

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February 20, 2024, 10:56:26 PM
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I'v observed that whenever a team begins to loose form, they first loose a vital game after which their confidence and morale drops then it's followed by some more series of losses then they will finally loose their form and will take one more time again to get back inform and in the case of Munich they may not be able to get back and meet up because the time is already far spent and the season will end in some weeks from now .

Loosing to Leverkusen was one of the most breakdown I think Munich faced this season because as a team they are trying to stay ahead of and has been a weak team in previous seasons, Munich would have taught that after getting a draw in the first meeting, they will be able to win in this second and sadly for them they lost it and it seems they are yet to recover from the shock because after that meeting their performance has dropped subsequently and it's looking like they may just be going through series of further losses after now and most liable, may not be able to win the trophy as the defending champions this season.
That's what Bayern Munich is currently experiencing because their mentality seems to have declined after the defeat they experienced. Previously, Bayern Munich were very strong, but after Leverkusen beat them, of course their mentality was disturbed in the next match, which made the situation start to get out of control because Bayern munich suffered consecutive defeats. Tuchel needs a process to revive the enthusiasm of his team because the season is still long and there is hope for them to continue to pressure Leverkusen.

Indeed, the biggest obstacle is to make better changes to the gaps in their game, but Tuchel has not succeeded in doing that. If we refer to the depth of the team strength, of course Bayern Munich has quite strong strength, but when the situation changes like this, their strength is lost because the players mentality is quite affected which makes their performance decline.

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February 20, 2024, 11:10:34 PM
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Bayern Munich faces big problems. They have to accept Leverkusen's leadership. Leverkusen has never been defeated in the league yet and they are 8 points ahead of Bayern. That's why Bayern Munich is having a lot of trouble. I think from now on Leverkusen will not give the cup this season. We can say that Leverkusen is the champion this year.

Bayer Leverkusen is the only unbeaten team in Europe's five major leagues. Bayern Munich are on the verge of losing the title to Bayer Leverkusen this season, but we have to admit that Bayer Leverkusen have been fantastic this season. If Bayer Leverkusen had performed like this last season, they would have been champions last season too. Bayern Munich crashed into a hard rock this time. Cheesy

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Bayer Leverkusen is the only unbeaten team in Europe's five major leagues. Bayern Munich are on the verge of losing the title to Bayer Leverkusen this season, but we have to admit that Bayer Leverkusen have been fantastic this season. If Bayer Leverkusen had performed like this last season, they would have been champions last season too. Bayern Munich crashed into a hard rock this time. Cheesy
Don't underestimate any club because the slightest opportunities these clubs will use and ensure they take good changes. This present day, none of these teams keen on relenting but straight up. Bayern Munich doesn't reach the peak of Leverkusen this season in everything. However this is the only season they've failed to reach the top. Atleast I'm tired of watching Bayern Munich keeps lifting the same title over and over again. There's nothing like fantastic, Bayer leverkusen have become outstanding and incredible in every matches played this season.

I don't have clue how Xabi Alonso is doing it, different from the rest managers this season. Keeping his team unbeaten and also seeing the top actually gives him more hope for the future. This season have not been one of the rough ones for most of us and some still display smile because none of these conditions is permanent. Xabi Alonso will build Bayer Leverkusen to become exactly like Bayern Munich in games, they're extremely focused on winning.

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February 21, 2024, 03:27:40 AM
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Even though they received a red card, it didn't make Stuttgart that weak and they were still able to win the away match at Darmstadt headquarters. Actually, from the level of both teams it was like that but still playing with only 10 people since the second half was certainly not easy for Stuttgart. The home team failed to take advantage of the completeness of their squad in this match and although it was almost certain that Stuttgart would win with a one goal lead until the final minute, there was quite a drama where Stuttgart would almost have drawn if they had not scored the second goal.

I think Stuttgart can still be quite reliable considering that the opponent is a weak team like Darmstadt and at least they are not under enough pressure or even giving up. Meanwhile, Darmstadt with this defeat still keeps them stuck in the bottom relegation zone by collecting 12 points and they need at least 5 points, which means they have to win two matches in a row to be able to take a breath outside.
Stuttgart took the lead in the first half by the club mainstay striker, Guraissy, in the 14th minute before Stuttgart lost 1 player in the second half, but this did not reflect the club's enthusiasme at all, they played with a defensive game after they played with only 10 players because Darmstadt had Many times he took 20 shot and 8 of them were on target but only one was converted into a goal in the added minutes of time, but before that, fortunately Stuttgart score their second goal before Darmstadt scored so Stuttgart still won the match with a score of 2:1.

Yes, if you look at it in terms of performances, it is clear that Stuttgart has greater strength than Darmstadt and the difference is very big, Darmstadt is at the bottom of the standing while Stuttgart is in the top teams, namely in 3rd place, so this is a victory that should be for Stuttgart, so that their position remain safe in 3rd place because the points differenced with Dortmund is quite close and Dortmund itself want to try to take over 3rd place if Stuttgart experiences a decline in the next matches.

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February 21, 2024, 05:40:42 AM
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Bayern Munich chances of maintaining its dominance as rulers of the Bundesliga are very low. Leverkusen is still consistently at the top of the standings, and is still unbeaten in 22 Bundesliga matches. Now Leverkusen chance of breaking the dominance of its competitors has reached more than 70%, Bayern decline will give them the freedom to move forward to secure the trophy and create club history. The defeat to Bochum has put Thomas Tuchel under heavy pressure, the guarantee of his position may be in the second round match against Lazio in the Champions League competition. If Bayern fails to advance to the quarter finals, Thomas Tuchel's tenure could end prematurely.
If Bayern Munich is eliminated by Lazio, I'm sure it will unseat Thomas Tuchel because they were overshadowed by Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. This year started with high hopes for them, but there are achievements that they could not fully achieve. I feel sorry for Harry Kane, one of the Bayern players, because he chose Bayern to win trophies, but it seems that he still will not have a trophy in his career.
I am having doubt about this Lazio wins in first leg which is good sign but now at home Bayern Munich will be gone through with their full power and try to have better things even all possibilities are available, but still things are favourable for the Bayern Munich to go through for the next round but in case we have any upset then surely Thomas Tuchel job is going to be in trouble because he was here just for good results but sadly after having good attack they still fail to give any good result is surely going to be not accepted by fans and management.

No doubt this could be the worst thing to happen for the Harry Kane who wants to win trophies but his first season away from Tottenham and England is also going to be ended without any trophy, but hopefully he will stay positive for one more season.

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February 21, 2024, 07:10:48 AM
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Bayern Munich faces big problems. They have to accept Leverkusen's leadership. Leverkusen has never been defeated in the league yet and they are 8 points ahead of Bayern. That's why Bayern Munich is having a lot of trouble. I think from now on Leverkusen will not give the cup this season. We can say that Leverkusen is the champion this year.

Bayer Leverkusen is the only unbeaten team in Europe's five major leagues. Bayern Munich are on the verge of losing the title to Bayer Leverkusen this season, but we have to admit that Bayer Leverkusen have been fantastic this season. If Bayer Leverkusen had performed like this last season, they would have been champions last season too. Bayern Munich crashed into a hard rock this time. Cheesy
So far we will definitely agree to say that Leverkusen has performed extraordinary this season, yes, as you said, they are the only club that has not been defeated this season and they have done this not only in the Bundesliga, but also in the European League, they have been in the group stage has not been touched by defeat. I will not be in a hurry to say that they will become champions this season, because as long as there is still a chance for Bayern Munich to catch up, then during that time it also means that they cannot be said to be able to become champions. But I would say they deserve to be champions this season.

Under the direction of Xabi Alonso, they have become a very strong club, apart from the several draws they achieved, I think this is a very normal thing for a club. Their only competitor this season is Bayern Munich, we waited until they met in the first round of the league and their match ended in a draw, that makes our confidence grow for them. And in the second round they met again and the result was that they were able to beat Bayern Munich with quite a landslide score, which makes us believe in them even more.

Now there are 12 more matches left in the Bundesliga, if you look at their points gap, Leverkusen only needs to win 10 more matches to ensure they will win the Bundesliga title. It will be interesting to see week by week, because we will be presented with more emotional matches from Leverkusen to achieve what they want this season.

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