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December 17, 2015, 03:44:23 AM |
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A very silly idea, but did you use a cable connector to "short" your PSU into knowing it is supposed to turn on? PSUs are usually built for computer mainboards and won't turn on unless a computer is connected or pins 4 and 6 (I think) are connected.
Woolfen, is correct. The APW 12 1600 is a BITMAIN PSU. It does not need a short to fool the PSU for 12.0 volts. It sounds more like they may not have plugged a PCIe cord in the controller OR they had the PSU running before plugging in the PCIe cords and may have burned up the unit. Need to hit the forum before tweaking stuff. Lot of very bright guys here.
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December 17, 2015, 04:00:19 AM |
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I bought the APW3-12-1600 PSU and the antminer S7.
I connected the PSU to the wall and that powered on just fine. The fan came on and it seems to be ok.
I then connected all 9 connections to the 3 hashing boards, as stated in the instructions which came with the S7, but nothing happened on the miner. No lights or no fans turning.
I tried connecting the last connection to the control board and that didn't do anything either.
I tried powering off the PSU with everything left connected and plugged back in and nothing.
So I started to look for a power switch on the unit and I looked at some pictures online and realized the button which I believe is the power button was pushed all the way in and stuck behind the metal plate which is right next to the QC sticker and Ethernet port.
I used a small nail to pry the button out from behind the metal, and that worked, and if I push the button I can feel a click, but the unit still doesn't turn on. I tried the same with the control board PCI-e connector disconnected and plugged it in after and still nothing.
I held down the button I freed up for over 10 seconds and nothing.
Anyone have any hints / tips for me?
if the psu was running and you hot plugged live pcie cables into the boards and into the controller there is a huge chance you fried the gear. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER PLUG IN HOT PCIE JACKS TO PCIE PLUGSor maybe you have 120 volts and the psu does not work correctly. If you have 240 volts turn off everything unplug the psu from the wall. i also mean turn the power off via the correct circuit breaker . but leave all ten pcie cables connected wait two hours pray to any one you want. then plug the psu into the dead wall socket. so all pcie cables are plugges in. your ethernet cord is plugged in the psu power cord is plugged into the wall. go to your circuit panel and flip the breaker on wait a few minutes and see if it works good luck!
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December 17, 2015, 06:55:22 AM |
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I bought the APW3-12-1600 PSU and the antminer S7.
I connected the PSU to the wall and that powered on just fine. The fan came on and it seems to be ok.
I then connected all 9 connections to the 3 hashing boards, as stated in the instructions which came with the S7, but nothing happened on the miner. No lights or no fans turning.
I tried connecting the last connection to the control board and that didn't do anything either.
I tried powering off the PSU with everything left connected and plugged back in and nothing.
So I started to look for a power switch on the unit and I looked at some pictures online and realized the button which I believe is the power button was pushed all the way in and stuck behind the metal plate which is right next to the QC sticker and Ethernet port.
I used a small nail to pry the button out from behind the metal, and that worked, and if I push the button I can feel a click, but the unit still doesn't turn on. I tried the same with the control board PCI-e connector disconnected and plugged it in after and still nothing.
I held down the button I freed up for over 10 seconds and nothing.
Anyone have any hints / tips for me?
You can connect APW3 wrong way to controller if You are not carefull, connectors are shit. Dimple on the side for the hook is very small and without any force You can connect power wrong way. Plastic parts on connectors shouldn't fit wrong way they are oriented. Controller don't break on reverse polarity, "tested" in dark garage. High quality connectors which I have used on my own soldered wire looms don't fit wrong way to S1 or S7, I tested it while writing this post. SAVE some cents on production and loose a lot of $ when using the product! Also APW3-12-1600 manual on BM support is not for APWs which they are sending out, small connectors are different! I'm still thinking that these products are not very matured for they price.
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December 17, 2015, 12:32:04 PM |
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The PSUs are quite profitable for them, not very high quality but it helps capture more revenue and profit per unit given the convenience for buyers of S7s
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December 17, 2015, 02:54:00 PM |
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The PSUs are quite profitable for them, not very high quality but it helps capture more revenue and profit per unit given the convenience for buyers of S7s
I don't know why you mention that the PSU is not very high quality. IMO The PSU is v+good quality, on par with quality of Seasonic 80PLUS gold PSUs. For e.g. they use top notch Nippon Chemicon high temperature capacitors, the cooling fan is a Delta part, etc. What they have skimped on is features for home miners, like foolproof PCI-E plugs, adjustable fan speed, 110V input, power switch. These PSUs are not noob friendly, but for the seasoned miner who knows their stuff. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060439.200
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December 17, 2015, 03:13:18 PM |
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Got a batch 8 in today, disappointed with it. Only runs at 4.6Th/s. hows the power consumption? can you confirm the control board has removed connections? thanks Didn't have time to get measurements for power use yet. Yes, control board is missing 6 data ports and 4 fan headers. Notice the very high hardware errors at stock settings. bitmain is selling us cheapened out to the max, overclocked junk. Thanks, bitmain. wow are you running it in a really cold room ? Heres what I noticed, put fan speed on manual, and play around with it. I went from 4500ghs to 4700ghs depending on which fan speed setting I have. soft reset until you get it, and then dont touch it. edit: your hw rate is too high. you must bring those temps up a bit, or play around with fan speed. I run at 35%, 3000-3120 rpm, its 4700ghs and 58 to 60 temperature. I had bad ghs before and same hw rate as you. now its 0.0032%. Got a batch 8 in today, disappointed with it. Only runs at 4.6Th/s. Hi Prelude, I did notice that was only 35 minutes of mining. I'm assuming you have reboot the rig from the system menu after startup and configuring the pools? I've found earlier batches I have had to be reboot sometimes a couple of times before getting stated hash rate. I know you have mined a long time, Sir. I'm just curious if you had already done those things? EDIT: I also noticed the HWE's [While not high] are higher than a lot of other rigs I have at 0.0012 to 0.0089 for many of my rigs. My HWE's would be about where yours is now but lower after a reboot from system menu. Brought the temps up by lowering the fan speeds, and quite a few restarts brought me to this: Doesn't seem to get any better. Guess I have a lemon.
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December 17, 2015, 03:16:11 PM |
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The PSUs are quite profitable for them, not very high quality but it helps capture more revenue and profit per unit given the convenience for buyers of S7s
I don't know why you mention that the PSU is not very high quality. IMO The PSU is v+good quality, on par with quality of Seasonic 80PLUS gold PSUs. For e.g. they use top notch Nippon Chemicon high temperature capacitors, the cooling fan is a Delta part, etc. What they have skimped on is features for home miners, like foolproof PCI-E plugs, adjustable fan speed, 110V input, power switch. These PSUs are not noob friendly, but for the seasoned miner who knows their stuff. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060439.200I reallllllly doubt they are anywhere near the level Seasonic are at. We're talking about bitmain here.... And comparing them to one of the top dogs in the PSU industry. The 1600w bitmain PSUs aren't bad, for sure, but we haven't had a proper review of them. We have no clue what the regulation or ripple numbers are. I wish bitmain would send a sample in to jonnyguru.
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December 17, 2015, 03:41:39 PM |
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That will never happen - jonnyguru would tear them to sheds
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December 17, 2015, 03:44:40 PM |
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anyone need S7 hashboard connector pin info description, i can provide it. also you can use hashboards only 4 data cable (tx-rx-3.3V-Gnd) Interesting, please share the pin out. Are you sure that it's only 4 connections? If the same as an S5 I would have thought there would also be a Reset plus Data & Clock for the LM75A Temp Sensor? Rich if you use 3 boards with 1 controller i think 1 lm75 connection is fine. i prefer to use center board lm75 i2c connections. for others you can use only 4 cable. but this is meanless if you use 3 board and 1 controller. this pin info for more than 6 hashboards like s5+, also for short wires.
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December 17, 2015, 04:16:32 PM |
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anyone need S7 hashboard connector pin info description, i can provide it. also you can use hashboards only 4 data cable (tx-rx-3.3V-Gnd) Interesting, please share the pin out. Are you sure that it's only 4 connections? If the same as an S5 I would have thought there would also be a Reset plus Data & Clock for the LM75A Temp Sensor? Rich if you use 3 boards with 1 controller i think 1 lm75 connection is fine. i prefer to use center board lm75 i2c connections. for others you can use only 4 cable. but this is meanless if you use 3 board and 1 controller. this pin info for more than 6 hashboards like s5+, also for short wires. Not sure why you are messing with the connectors? But I disagree, as far as I know the firmware looks at all 3 LM75 and takes the highest temperature to set the fan speed, so you are chancing that the centre board has the highest temperature, which it may have but why chance it? Rich
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December 17, 2015, 04:37:39 PM |
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anyone need S7 hashboard connector pin info description, i can provide it. also you can use hashboards only 4 data cable (tx-rx-3.3V-Gnd) Interesting, please share the pin out. Are you sure that it's only 4 connections? If the same as an S5 I would have thought there would also be a Reset plus Data & Clock for the LM75A Temp Sensor? Rich if you use 3 boards with 1 controller i think 1 lm75 connection is fine. i prefer to use center board lm75 i2c connections. for others you can use only 4 cable. but this is meanless if you use 3 board and 1 controller. this pin info for more than 6 hashboards like s5+, also for short wires. Not sure why you are messing with the connectors? But I disagree, as far as I know the firmware looks at all 3 LM75 and takes the highest temperature to set the fan speed, so you are chancing that the centre board has the highest temperature, which it may have but why chance it? Rich i know Rich, i can share this for nothing. this is for only knowledge if you want i inspect that for misterious pins like command-reset-test pins. Edited: Also i share Fan connector info and modify, and you can use any PWM controlled fan with that. but be patient please.
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December 17, 2015, 04:38:03 PM |
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either side left/right will be hotter due to the direction of the fan spinning.
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December 17, 2015, 05:51:44 PM |
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Hey prelude, sorry about your batch 8, that sucks. Mine is really picky, example i change the fan speed and it all goes to hell. imagine when bitmain will sell the "used" miners in a while....people will buy them and 1 month later b00m its dead
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December 17, 2015, 06:02:47 PM |
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Hey prelude, sorry about your batch 8, that sucks. Mine is really picky, example i change the fan speed and it all goes to hell. imagine when bitmain will sell the "used" miners in a while....people will buy them and 1 month later b00m its dead
Glad I went all in on the 4.86 gear. They are touchy enough.
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December 17, 2015, 10:35:17 PM |
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Hey prelude, sorry about your batch 8, that sucks. Mine is really picky, example i change the fan speed and it all goes to hell. imagine when bitmain will sell the "used" miners in a while....people will buy them and 1 month later b00m its dead
Glad I went all in on the 4.86 gear. They are touchy enough. other batches as well...I have almost one of each, except #8. Therefore I call my S7 miners: Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Bashful, Sneezy, Dopey Not very original, I know...
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December 17, 2015, 10:37:56 PM |
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Hey prelude, sorry about your batch 8, that sucks. Mine is really picky, example i change the fan speed and it all goes to hell. imagine when bitmain will sell the "used" miners in a while....people will buy them and 1 month later b00m its dead
Glad I went all in on the 4.86 gear. They are touchy enough. other batches as well...I have almost one of each, except #8. Therefore I call my S7 miners: Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Bashful, Sneezy, Dopey Not very original, I know... Hmm A Touchy #8 would have to be Snow White Rich
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December 18, 2015, 12:34:18 AM |
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Hi, I ordered last week and paid for shipping via UPS. Apparently, they want more money from me now before they deliver it. Can someone tell me what the fee UPS want now is for?
Here is the message I got from their site:
The driver was unable to collect funds on the first delivery attempt. A second attempt will be made.
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December 18, 2015, 12:41:57 AM |
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Hi, I ordered last week and paid for shipping via UPS. Apparently, they want more money from me now before they deliver it. Can someone tell me what the fee UPS want now is for?
Here is the message I got from their site:
The driver was unable to collect funds on the first delivery attempt. A second attempt will be made.
Custom and taxes fees
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December 18, 2015, 01:03:41 AM |
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Hi, I ordered last week and paid for shipping via UPS. Apparently, they want more money from me now before they deliver it. Can someone tell me what the fee UPS want now is for?
Here is the message I got from their site:
The driver was unable to collect funds on the first delivery attempt. A second attempt will be made.
Custom and taxes fees Oh, did you have a shipment where they required that as well?.. I've bought dozens and dozens of miners from Bitmain before. This is the first time UPS asked for money. Previously, I paid Bitmain for shipping and everything was included. Oh well. Thanks for the info.
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December 18, 2015, 01:10:39 AM |
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Speaking of duties and fees, taxes and such. I paid 330$ cad to DHL...Im filling a CBSA informal adjustment request form to the customs agency and I hope i'll get 2/3 of that refunded. You can also dispute the Merchandise value that bitmain put on. I will do that too, as they put 100$ usd or so more than I paid. I'll let you guys know what happens, (probably in a few weeks...months) if you are interested, this is for people in Canada (im in quebec so i paid quebec tax too).
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