CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[defaced]

It's  the lack of marketing. -sigh-

[Gleb Gamow]

It's  the lack of marketing. -sigh-

I don't believe that Cryptsy ever had any "lack of marketing" issues.

[Gleb Gamow]

https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/655850571447083008?lang=en



https://www.cryptsy.com/campaign



Come to Qryptsy's, Qryptsy's is fun, come right now, don't walk - run! After a short ~3 week campaign, there's ONLY 1,779 left out of the 2,000 promos. Now, that's fuckin' telling! Given Cryptsy supposed client base with Paul Vernon affording an over a million-dollar home thanks, in part, to Cryptsy's success, one would think that them 2,000 freebies would've been snatched up in no time, yet there it sits at ONLY 221 people taking advantage of Cryptsy's promo thingy. HAHAHA

Amazingly, of the 300K+ Cryptsy user base, ONLY 232 (one added since I reported last) users signed up for the promo of the limited 2,000 prepaid debit cards. That's only 1.07% of BigVern's Twitter followers. Perhaps Paul Vernon should mention this campaign on their Facebook page which was last active with the following post (Warning: Not responsible if you laugh yourself to death: https://www.facebook.com/Cryptsy-208535829335021/

Gleb Gamow AKA Bruno Kucinskas you seem to be very pleased with your ignorant attempts to discredit others

[Spoetnik]

LOL Fodor you out done yourself HAHHAHA

What are the odd's the one guy in here defending them is the last guy bitching about them
..being insolvent on their Facebook page  R O F L

Nice find Gleb !

[Gleb Gamow]

LOL Fodor you out done yourself HAHHAHA

What are the odd's the one guy in here defending them is the last guy bitching about them
..being insolvent on their Facebook page  R O F L

Nice find Gleb !

The bookmakers in Vagas say it's even money given that Leroy "Serial Liar" Fodor is involved.

[Gleb Gamow]

Well this is embarrassing looks like I had sent that deposit to the wrong address.  Will try again sorry cryptsy !

Good to hear, things have been figured out.

We really are honestly trying to start a exchange. I admin the forums for Vern and I will tell you as much as I know this guys... he is honest as the day is long.

Wow! Simply, wOw! The dude's from Florida, knows Paul Vernon, and 100% vouches for his character where I, Bruno, had no problem finding counter examples. I have the full dox on SS, but will hold off for now till I see how "CE" fits into the scheme of things pertaining to Cryptsy.

[Spoetnik]

Well this is embarrassing looks like I had sent that deposit to the wrong address.  Will try again sorry cryptsy !

Good to hear, things have been figured out.

We really are honestly trying to start a exchange. I admin the forums for Vern and I will tell you as much as I know this guys... he is honest as the day is long.

Wow! Simply, wOw! The dude's from Florida, knows Paul Vernon, and 100% vouches for his character where I, Bruno, had no problems finding counter examples. I have the full dox on SS, but will hold off for now till I see how "CE" fits into the scheme of things pertaining to Cryptsy.

Nice find.. i am's haeve popcorn'z !!1111

[Gleb Gamow]

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=cryptsy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=XGhBGY%202i25FaHd%20bR8ITCeWp01I3an5iuNjAHjkHDpzlh5yhRaCUiBdOeAi%2fHF7



I've yet to hunt down Paul Vernon's account on this forum prior to his bigvern nym: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93918. There has to be one given that Cryptsy was registered on February 9, 2012.

[BitJohn]

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=cryptsy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=XGhBGY%202i25FaHd%20bR8ITCeWp01I3an5iuNjAHjkHDpzlh5yhRaCUiBdOeAi%2fHF7



I've yet to hunt down Paul Vernon's account on this forum prior to his bigvern nym: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93918. There has to be one given that Cryptsy was registered on February 9, 2012.

I don't think he had one I am pretty sure I brought him here. Paul had his own Forums litebonk back then for his pools.

[Gleb Gamow]

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=cryptsy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=XGhBGY%202i25FaHd%20bR8ITCeWp01I3an5iuNjAHjkHDpzlh5yhRaCUiBdOeAi%2fHF7



I've yet to hunt down Paul Vernon's account on this forum prior to his bigvern nym: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93918. There has to be one given that Cryptsy was registered on February 9, 2012.

I don't think he had one I am pretty sure I brought him here. Paul had his own Forums litebonk back then for his pools.

Then how did Paul come up with the name Cryptsy back in early 2012?

[BitJohn]

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=cryptsy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=XGhBGY%202i25FaHd%20bR8ITCeWp01I3an5iuNjAHjkHDpzlh5yhRaCUiBdOeAi%2fHF7



I've yet to hunt down Paul Vernon's account on this forum prior to his bigvern nym: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93918. There has to be one given that Cryptsy was registered on February 9, 2012.

I don't think he had one I am pretty sure I brought him here. Paul had his own Forums litebonk back then for his pools.

Then how did Paul come up with the name Cryptsy back in early 2012?

Well he has always been in BTC and has a lot of domains. When I met him at litebonk he had a bunch of companies doing various non crypto things. That and his Litecoin pool. I talked him into setting up a WDC and DGC pool back in the day since I used his pools.

[Gleb Gamow]

D1P3 - TNABC 2015 - PAUL VERNON CEO CRYPTSY From Bitcoin to Dogecoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdOEgAG8PLU

Here's Paul Vernon's timeline (you're not gonna believe this!):

2011: Fires up a GPU in the living room. Wife mad cause it made too much noise, blah blah blah. Paul quits Bitcoin end of year.

2012: Paul registers Cryptsy.com (he did that mention this fact).

2013: (... wait for it ...) Paul rediscovers Bitcoin via some article. Pulls out the old GPU and fires it back up, but no bitcoins (he figured out why - ASICs). He found an old wallet and realized he was rich. (... here it comes ...) (paraphrased) "This was about the time that Litecoin was created sparking my interest anew. So, back to BitcoinTalk I cruised."

For those slow and didn't catch it:

Via Wikipedia: Litecoin   Date of introduction   7 October 2011; 4 years ago

To be fair to Paul, I'm only 5 minutes into the 20 minute video, so perhaps he corrected his mistake somewhere within.

EDIT: Holy fuckin' shit! (~5:15 minute mark) He just said that after finding Litecoin (2013) on a thread, he reworked his GPU and starting mining litcoins. It was easy because the difficulty was low and not many people were mining it. Paul Vernon has lost his motherfuckin' mind!

[Gleb Gamow]

https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/about

What is Cryptsy:

Cryptsy International is an Internet startup managed by Project Investors, Inc. focusing on the exchange of Crypto-Currency commonly known as “BitCoin” and it's derivatives. We currently service more than 200 different types of crypto-currency.

The Cryptsy.com exchange opened on May 20th, 2013 and since then has seen rapid growth in both customer base and trade volume. We currently have over 270,000 registered users from all over the world with a volume of over 300k trades per day.

paul21's last post was on May 20th, 2013. Both Pauls operated altcoin pools. What are the odds?

Please pool operators be kind one with other .
Don't use this topic for war .. only to help miners

isnt recommending a *working* pool a helpful message for miners? im sorry if it's not.

Erundook you must relocate one of your pools, close one, or do something; you have too much hashing power connected on the same subnet. Forking has already happened and will happen again. Please recompile your worldcoind's with outgoing connections over 8 (pref >250) and incoming over 125 (pref >250) if you haven't done so already.

[Spoetnik]

interesting Gleb and yeah i would bet that is an old BigVern account.
I also can confirm Litebonk exists and for a long time i was popping over there when i started Crypto mid 2013'ish
i forgot about that place LOL
Paul has started a lot of shit..
I recall the auto coin switching multipool that paid out in BTC.. i tried that for a while.

[Gleb Gamow]

@BitJohn

You said you were only in Florida once. Was it the time you conducted this hangout on Google? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1XCiqA2CeE

[TheMage]

Ok so I didn't read everything that has been in this thread. But because I posted in this thread and I always go back and read the threads I posted in I wanted to say a few things.

We should be seeing more alt/sockpuppet carnage by now...

Heres a few more names for you guys to chew on..

Matt Carsen aka:
borito4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10897
bobsag3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144143
hendo420 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25129

TECHSHARE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728

BayAreaCoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137773

SaltySpitoon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38894

organofcorti https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14118

KeyserSozeMC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=166959

Wolf0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=80740

BitcoinEXpress https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29445

Carlos Perez aka:
FrictionlessCoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=127521
solracx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87434

Carsen Klock aka:
Carsen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350
dreamcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=327214

Then theres THIS shitcoin disturber ..
HippieTechIsaCUNT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213586

edit

oops .. I almost forgot about muddafudda's favourite candygirl/sock. lol
Crestington https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181127

tip: Cresty's Paycon is one of the many Cryptsy inhouse jobbies available over at Stakeminers.

Wolf0 is cool, not sure why your list here includes him.

Matt is Defaced AKA: Frank (leader of the coin Franko Coin + 1 Related Pool)
Defaced has a Disqus profile i had ran into a few times too.
With out a doubt a friendly guy but he is one of their long time bum buddies.

Yall done went full potato

My name is Christopher Franko. Everyone knows that lol. I'm even in the damn pictures yall shared earlier of the cryptsy on air hangout (as a guest).. Such great detectives and yet.... no one knows that i'm a real person?! Jesus christ.

And yes, ive known most of them for a very long time. They were one of the first exchanges to believe in FRK. Because I was always active and always helpful there they made me a mod. Mods have no special insight into the inner workings and our volunteer job is to just keep the peace when we can.

Have fun with your witch hunt fellas!

i knew some of that but i got ya to reveal far more
duh man.. i was on your pool remember ?
Franko coin was far more legit than most coins ..not bad mouthing it.
made me a mod ? hmm interesting indeed !

so this is not you defaced ?



edit:
Guys's are just lining up to say they work for Cryptsy LOL
and yeah i know *some chatbox mod's have access and others may not.

You got me to reveal more? wait wut? Your asd is showing man put it back in the bag. I dont work for cryptsy I'm a mod... a volunteer chat moderator. To work implies I get a pay check I dont. So you googled my youtube.. man you're good! Everything i'm saying is public, how can you "reveal" public info? All of my social media sites are completely public, Ive never tried to hide who I am or what I do at cryptsy.. because my only power is to ban people who call other people names.. in a trollbox. Everyone in the trollbox knows, mods are powerless. There is even a distinction between mods and admins. Admins have a little crown next to their names. Sometimes we even copy and paste support ticket numbers to the admins zomg!

I mean ffs, if you are going to share a SS of my video atleast have the decency to share a link to the video so i could possibly get $0.10 from ad revenue. sheesh.

Where do i start ?
Well you're being defensive LOL
And yeah Volunteering or not.. doing work for Cryptsy means your one of them.
And i have long suspected you were Mr. Franko and you have always denied it outright.
You claimed it was not your coin and that you were only some guy who started a pool for it.

The guy in the picture started Franko i thought so that is why i asked if that was you.
I have seen your picture on the forum a few times before.. or around the crypto scene in the last couple years.
Your picture is old news lol
But i think ? that pic just turned up on a Google image search i did last couple days for Cryptsy.
I wasn't looking for any info on you or Franko "the coin".
So i never did see a youtube video nor do i ever go to youtube.. i can't stand the site to be honest.

But since your the only Cryptsy guy talking why not answer some questions for us ?
What is BitJohn's real name ?
What other staff or *volunteer* moderators are there ? Can you list their names ?

Defaced is a really cool guy, and as far as I have known him he has been honest. He is one of the more trustworthy developers in the alt coin world and does a lot to help the crypto cause.

For the record I'm not convinced this legacy code issue is the only or even the main problem. That's not how such issues typically manifest themselves. If there was a code change made mid-October or whenever the major problems started it should have been rolled back. If that's not an option then other measures should have been applied, there is a lot of things that could be done to make performance issues more bearable. At the very least users should be warned on the site instead of making them go to scam threads looking for answers. Right now it looks like Cryptsy is happy to take deposits and not so happy to give them back. What a convenient coincidence that the legacy code affects only THAT part of site's functionality.

You can't possibly have this much issues soley on only legacy code.

If I were to take a guess it would be that they are insolvent.

Basically robbing Peter to pay Paul and repeat.

Well my last comment here, and I'm really only saying this at this point because I am beyond frustrated with my own personal situation. Two things on my mind, the first one is before I was "someone" in the crypto space I've had numerous issues with Cryptsy. I've personally never really believed that there were only technical issues, either that or really bad mismanagement. The second thing is that I worked so very hard in order to come out with an alternative, and because my team and I were doing everything by the book we are unable to secure the proper funding to launch an exchange that is truly legitimate (not to say Crypsty isnt legitimate, but as far back as I was a customer there have been problems). Therefore until we get funding the project is on hold.

We have a fully functional exchange, but we refuse to open up without the proper safeguards in place so customers know that we are not a fly by night exchange.


/end rant and off topic....lol

[Hippie Tech]

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=cryptsy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=XGhBGY%202i25FaHd%20bR8ITCeWp01I3an5iuNjAHjkHDpzlh5yhRaCUiBdOeAi%2fHF7



I've yet to hunt down Paul Vernon's account on this forum prior to his bigvern nym: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93918. There has to be one given that Cryptsy was registered on February 9, 2012.

ENOM eh ? You don't say ..

While I was looking for some links regarding your question about Matt Carsen and hendo420 ...

-both are too lazy to clean up after themselves and both like to flaunt their herbs and/or mining gear
-they moved from Missouri to Colorado during the same time period
-Matt's million dollar scam, Minersource is/was located in Aurora.. hendo's first visit to a marijuana dispensary was in Pueblo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399658.msg5551760#msg5551760

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/The+Greener+Side+Caregiving+%26+Wellness+LLC./@38.6758739,-104.4285717,8.32z/data=!4m15!1m12!4m11!1m3!2m2!1d-104.6434458!2d38.1689008!1m6!1m2!1s0x8713988430760889:0x5a0fa52fce1212d9!2sthe+greener+side+pueblo+co!2m2!1d-104.642757!2d38.1641979!3m1!1s0x8713988430760889:0x5a0fa52fce1212d9

... I came across these very interesting trust ratings on maco's (hendo's 42coin sidekick) profile.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=73930


As you can see, just one day after I posted my negative rating on maco's profile, hendo420 AND (long time scammer and hendoSOOPYcoin shill) Brad Mills aka. darbsllim decided to do the exact opposite.

darbsllim
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14367

nah dude - there were 3 people who ordered that - but with all the mtgox issues (still haven't got our account back) and the canadian postal strike, things have been nuts.

Someone else is administrating the forbitcoin account for us, but the silver offer was taken down because the price of bitcoin was fluctuating so much, and people were misunderstanding the gig - we can't afford to sell these 10 oz bars for less than $400, and the bitcoin price is too volatile now.

Whoever bought will receive, or get a refund - we are just waiting on mtgox to fix their shit.

I already had paid enough for the silver bar and shipping, weeks before Mt. Gox went down.

There was no "misunderstanding the gig."  You offered a 10oz bar of silver for $400 worth of BTC and I paid that.

You admitted that you retroactively changed your mind about the terms of the offer after I handed over my money, because of btc price flux.

That's just sleazy.  An honest business would make it right.

Expecting your customers to eat your losses, which were caused by your failure to deliver, is pretty ridiculous.

Would you renege on an eBay auction after it's ended, just because you no longer want to accept the winning bid?

Based on your (lack of) actions and stated POV, it seems like you would. 

Your bad faith and faulty logic could hardly be demonstrated more clearly. 

Especially given the lack of response prior to my making your dishonesty public.

iCEBREAKER said:

This is becoming a very expensive bar. On June 9, at the time of purchase, I overpaid by $48.35, more than enough to cover two-day shipping. I was given an expected delivery date of June 16. On June 10, you brought up previously unmentioned shipping options. Four days after I responded, you asked me to send you another 7.6btc. The day after, it went up to another 14.

The "time of purchase" is when a buyer accepts a seller's offer, by placing an order and paying their btc. That way, each transaction has a clear timestamp and there is an incentive (exposure to price flux) for the seller to minimize latency.

 
forbitcoin said:

Yeah you are right, we put the wrong term in the description, it was always meant to be the time of order completion, ie when it ships. The price of bitcoin is quite volatile as we all know, where Silver is a lot more secure. We just can't ship it for less than it's value unfortunately. If you want to proceed thats fine, but with this crazy mtgox stuff happening we will have to wait until that's back up and running.

BTW I understand your frustration, this order has taken a long time to complete with a lot of back and forth, all the while the btc price has shifted substantially - I hope you can understand where we are coming from on this.

The standard practice for business is that once the buyer is parted from their money, the deal is done. No legitimate business would try to raise the price after the advertised purchase is complete. At that point the burden is on the seller to move fast and give the buyer what they already paid for. The buyer is not responsible for covering the sellers' losses, any more than the seller is responsible for offering a refund of the value of the item decreases. You can't expect buyers to carry the liability that belongs to sellers. Especially when you state the terms explicitly in the offer. The PURCHASE is complete when a buyer pays his money. The ORDER is complete when the buyer gets his item. NEITHER has anything to do with when the seller says they got around to shipping the item.

This line of excuses is getting pretty long.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradmillscan

https://who.is/domain-history/bradmills.ca

Registrar:
    Name:              eNom Canada Corp. <-- Was he phishing for ENOMdotCOM customers ?
    Number:            505567

https://who.is/domain-history/enom.ca

Registrar:
    Name:              Rebel.ca Corp.
    Number:            45

https://who.is/domain-history/rebel.ca

Registrar:
    Name:              Internic.ca Inc.
    Number:            29

https://who.is/domain-history/internic.ca

Administrative contact: (old)
    Name:              Jason Lavigne
    Job Title:         .
    Postal address:    Momentous.ca

Administrative contact: (new)
    Name:              Rob Villeneuve

https://who.is/domain-history/momentous.ca

Administrative contact: (old)
    Name:              Jason Lavigne

Administrative contact: (new)
    Name:              Rob Villeneuve

https://www.linkedin.com/in/robvilleneuve

[kelsey]

Defaced is a really cool guy, and as far as I have known him he has been honest. He is one of the more trustworthy developers in the alt coin world and does a lot to help the crypto cause.

yes by pumping out shitcoin after shitcoin, including the latest premine garabage 

[Hippie Tech]

Defaced is a really cool guy, and as far as I have known him he has been honest. He is one of the more trustworthy developers in the alt coin world and does a lot to help the crypto cause.

yes by pumping out shitcoin after shitcoin, including the latest premine garabage 

Hio kelsey. xD

That might explain why he likes wolf0 and his "optimized" mining software/kernels.

HAHA (puff puff) HA

Btw.. were you around that day when TomSelleck'sStache started freaking out about his hashpower exploit and/or scrypt asic kernel ?

[kelsey]

The second thing is that I worked so very hard in order to come out with an alternative, and because my team and I were doing everything by the book we are unable to secure the proper funding to launch an exchange that is truly legitimate (not to say Crypsty isnt legitimate, but as far back as I was a customer there have been problems). Therefore until we get funding the project is on hold.

We have a fully functional exchange, but we refuse to open up without the proper safeguards in place so customers know that we are not a fly by night exchange.

you're talking a US based, give full ID comply with US law (and I use the term loosely) type exchange? no? now how would that be any meaningful alternative? kinda defeats the whole point of p2p currency.

now you could put all that wasted energy into helping make a p2p exchange    this space doesn't exactly need a cryptsy 2.0