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Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gannett-cdn.com%2F-mm-%2Ffd388f0ff1e572d7706b9d24c941eba1cfd487e9%2Fc%3D4-0-3595-2700%26r%3Dx404%26c%3D534x401%2Flocal%2F-%2Fmedia%2F2016%2F07%2F15%2FUSATODAY%2FUSATODAY%2F636041862774762435-ThinkstockPhotos-152971464.jpg&t=665&c=L3b1pf2OFnP5cQ) I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin
You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins. Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below). https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough. I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation). Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too.
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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April 03, 2018, 01:36:16 AM |
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Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?-Image- I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin
You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins. Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below). https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough. I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation). Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too. Does anyone know who, or what pseudoname the person who got famous for buying a pizza for 10,000 BTC? I wonder if that is gut wrenching for him looking back on that and wondering "what if" all the time? I would love to look back at any threads based around that moment in Internet history. Of course hind sight is always going to be 20/20 and you can't allow yourself to beat yourself up all the time about it, but I never had to go through things like that or the one instance you described.
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April 03, 2018, 01:46:39 AM |
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Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?-Image- I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin
You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins. Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below). https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough. I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation). Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too. Does anyone know who, or what pseudoname the person who got famous for buying a pizza for 10,000 BTC? I wonder if that is gut wrenching for him looking back on that and wondering "what if" all the time? I would love to look back at any threads based around that moment in Internet history. Of course hind sight is always going to be 20/20 and you can't allow yourself to beat yourself up all the time about it, but I never had to go through things like that or the one instance you described. Below is laszlo's pizza thread, and I thought I had seen something else by him on lightning. It may have been on reddit since it appears that the most recent forum posts of his are from early 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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April 03, 2018, 02:09:03 AM |
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Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?-Image- I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin
You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins. Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below). https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough. I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation). Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too. Does anyone know who, or what pseudoname the person who got famous for buying a pizza for 10,000 BTC? I wonder if that is gut wrenching for him looking back on that and wondering "what if" all the time? I would love to look back at any threads based around that moment in Internet history. Of course hind sight is always going to be 20/20 and you can't allow yourself to beat yourself up all the time about it, but I never had to go through things like that or the one instance you described. Below is laszlo's pizza thread, and I thought I had seen something else by him on lightning. It may have been on reddit since it appears that the most recent forum posts of his are from early 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141Wow, nice find in a relatively quick amount of time... pretty cool to be able to read through all of that and snicker to yourself while being 8 years in the future. Still, my heart goes out for that guy. I really hope people like him don't do anything drastic or become too depressed over something like that.
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bitcoin is one of the world's juiciest prizes for hackers. there must be thousands or tens of thousands who've tried to break it, let alone governments and banks, and they all went away with their heads bowed.
this forum would not still exist if bitcoin had been cracked. if it is we'll sure as hell know about it.
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April 03, 2018, 02:32:21 AM |
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Does anyone know who, or what pseudoname the person who got famous for buying a pizza for 10,000 BTC? I wonder if that is gut wrenching for him looking back on that and wondering "what if" all the time? I would love to look back at any threads based around that moment in Internet history.
Of course hind sight is always going to be 20/20 and you can't allow yourself to beat yourself up all the time about it, but I never had to go through things like that or the one instance you described.
Below is laszlo's pizza thread, and I thought I had seen something else by him on lightning. Wow, nice find in a relatively quick amount of time... pretty cool to be able to read through all of that and snicker to yourself while being 8 years in the future. Still, my heart goes out for that guy. I really hope people like him don't do anything drastic or become too depressed over something like that. He has made statements that make him seem pretty sanguine about the whole deal. Back then it wasn't much money. He could have recouped for thirty bux or so, but I guess he didn't. Though he did give the entire concept of Bitcion as money a much needed kick. I'm pretty sure he recently did (one of) the first uses of Lightning in actual commerce. By buying pizza. Whodathunkit? Extra points for style.
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Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.
I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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April 03, 2018, 03:13:29 AM |
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well i did not only have the believe that bitcoin is going to stop in 10,000$ but i also have the believe that it is going to hit 40,000$ -60,000$ and up till then i will not sell off my bitcoin that i have reserved for years.. if that happens then i will execute my plan which is to build an academy where only blockchain and crypto will be taught in my country.
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April 03, 2018, 03:17:12 AM |
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http://astrohacker.com/ahc/bitcoin-is-the-economic-singularity/After reading this, the scale of black market and digital economies and the effect Bitcoin will have on them I am pretty certain we are going to be very wealthy men -- even with a sum as small as 10 Bitcoins. It's just so hard to believe. We are only in the beginning storms with these significant rallies from 10 to 20 dollars. I will not be surprised to see prices from hundreds to thousands in the coming months. The world just isn't going to be the same and we have been blessed as the pioneers. What are you going to do with your Bitcoin wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop? People who are investing a huge amount of cryptocurrency today will really earn a huge amount of profit in the future because there are a lot of consumers who are also interested on bitcoins and they are running a mining hardware that is making the volume bitcoins in the market to increase even more.
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April 03, 2018, 03:24:43 AM |
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I also believe in the Bitcoin and it will make us wealthy in future. I am regularly investing in Bitcoin with the hope that it will go to moon up to end of 2018. i hope Bitcoin will be $30000 at the end of 2018.
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April 03, 2018, 03:46:30 AM |
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I also believe in the Bitcoin and it will make us wealthy in future. I am regularly investing in Bitcoin with the hope that it will go to moon up to end of 2018. i hope Bitcoin will be $30000 at the end of 2018.
The price of bitcoin will reach to that price but this year, 2018? I don't think that we will reach to that since the price is very low and we are in a strong bear market and this year can be just a bear market for bitcoin and the best thing to do right now is to just keep working hard and accumulate more bitcoin while it is cheap because in the future, it will go up again.
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April 03, 2018, 03:49:54 AM |
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I think everybody that lives in a created nation with access to the web is a piece of a "world class" pack as of now as it were. We can get philosophical about this. However, I think the principle point is that anybody that can bear to purchase a couple of lattes at their nearby Starbucks can sign into free web there and purchase Bitcoin. It is genuinely available to anybody, paying little heed to how entitled the individual is. The subject obviously is what amount would they be able to purchase? They ought to have the capacity to purchase at any rate $5 worth in the event that they simply renounce one Frappuccino. Be that as it may, I do concur the open to "everybody" was overstated when thinking in worldwide terms.
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April 03, 2018, 06:09:19 AM |
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Agreed with you that we are one of the new wealthy community. Previously many people sold their btc when it hits $1000 mark in order to book the profit, in coming days if the btc prices are increased then people will again sell their btc but the people who are holding the bictoins will definitely became the wealthiest in the long run.
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April 03, 2018, 07:25:22 AM |
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A lot of people will become rich from investing in bitcoin and in other cryptocurrencies, it may take a while but it will happen regardless and with time.
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April 03, 2018, 07:52:43 AM |
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Not pretty sure and confident that I will be the new wealthy elite, gentleman as the future is full of uncertainties and looking at the present bitcoin value doesn't guarantee that it would regain its value in future period of time
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April 03, 2018, 07:59:23 AM |
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Bitcoin price is going to rise to a new peak for sure, however the problem is when, since the investment is measured by time
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April 03, 2018, 08:01:10 AM |
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I would like to congratulate everyone who were the early adopters, investors, and accepters of Bitcoins. Despite the naysayers, you all were patient and held on to your Bitcoins, now you are reaping benefits that many thought were unimaginable. I am a late starter with Bitcoins, and just started accepting it as payment for my products and services (which I'll reveal in a later post), and I am very happy I made the decision. Maybe a movie should be made about the early adopters who became wealthy from Bitcoin, make it into one of those "underdog beats the odds" stories. Just a thought ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 04, 2018, 11:12:17 PM |
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Well, the forecasts for this year are still positive. But no one can predict what will happen next. Bitcoin has good investors, but many banks can begin an aggressive policy against the crypto currency.
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April 04, 2018, 11:26:48 PM |
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As bitcoin being branded as the biggest wealth distribution of all time, then we can simply say that people who believe, invest, utilize it will probably become wealthy. So let's not stop believing in bitcoin and hodl strong.
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April 06, 2018, 10:22:03 AM |
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I would like to congratulate everyone who were the early adopters, investors, and accepters of Bitcoins. Despite the naysayers, you all were patient and held on to your Bitcoins, now you are reaping benefits that many thought were unimaginable. I am a late starter with Bitcoins, and just started accepting it as payment for my products and services (which I'll reveal in a later post), and I am very happy I made the decision. Maybe a movie should be made about the early adopters who became wealthy from Bitcoin, make it into one of those "underdog beats the odds" stories. Just a thought ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It as a story about those who got hidden gem since begin until someday, the value of that hidden gem increases too much on the world. That is all of Bitcoin and many cryptocurrencies. As long as you can invest in potential crypto at low price before everyone start to make it value increases, you will become the rich, easy ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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April 06, 2018, 10:32:46 AM |
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As bitcoin being branded as the biggest wealth distribution of all time, then we can simply say that people who believe, invest, utilize it will probably become wealthy. So let's not stop believing in bitcoin and hodl strong.
As of now, the market capitalization of Bitcoin stands at $112 billion, which is around 0.03% of the global wealth. Due to its extremely small share in the global wealth, it is not possible for Bitcoin to act as a tool in the wealth re-distribution.
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