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October 02, 2016, 10:06:03 AM |
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Well I think that Quantum proof algorithms can only be tested with quantum computers in the long run.
I dont think its currently possible to make any coin quantum proof unless its created by a quantum machine in the first place.
Forget bitcoin or other crypto.
The World will have far more issues to deal with against quantum attacks unless all the banks buy quantum computers etc...
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October 02, 2016, 10:11:58 AM |
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The World will have far more issues to deal with against quantum attacks unless all the banks buy quantum computers etc...
I see this "argument" quite often... |
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October 02, 2016, 06:11:40 PM |
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Well I think that Quantum proof algorithms can only be tested with quantum computers in the long run.
I dont think its currently possible to make any coin quantum proof unless its created by a quantum machine in the first place.
Hash functions are always a tricky thing, but the 'quantum' element doesn't really change much in that regard. Quantum physics is very, very well understood ( please no misunderstood Feynman quote ), so it is essentially just an issue of math. Quantum is not magic. The World will have far more issues to deal with against quantum attacks unless all the banks buy quantum computers etc...
IoT will be in large part the backbone of the modern society and industry 4.0, a realm that is going to be largely autonomous and rely on data, not human judgment, to execute actions. Therefore quantum resistance is very important in this realm. |
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October 04, 2016, 09:11:19 AM |
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David, in the Slack you comment about that 100 Mio. VCs will be ready for IOTA. How that´s to understand?
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October 04, 2016, 10:04:38 AM |
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David, in the Slack you comment about that 100 Mio. VCs will be ready for IOTA. How that´s to understand?
It means that there are large VCs waiting for projects to spawn out of IOTA to invest into, hence why I have repeated 24/7/365 that the thing everyone should be focusing on is getting developers into IOTA and starting projects on top of IOTA ASAP as that is the key to unlock the door of potential laying dormant in being at the forefront of this technology and era. We have fertilized the grounds by bringing in these large VCs, we are developing the tools, we have even planted seeds, but we cannot also grow and micromanage every single project, so whales: step up. It's mindboggling to me how certain (fortunately a small minority) whales haven't already brought in tens of developers like the large holders of Ethereum did before the project was even beta stage. But yea: the potential is gigantic, you will have a greater chance at earning way more via these start-up opportunities than you ever will by 'just holding', so you should take a portion of your iotas, give them to some developers who can realize the ideas you have and then win-win-win |
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October 04, 2016, 01:17:48 PM |
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Hello,
I've updated to 1.0.6 wallet with some ip's added from slacks.
But this wallet is really difficult to use, problems are:
- Login: must try for several times after many connection refused.
- Rebroadcast: Command "Pushtransactions" is unknown
- Reply: Not Synced
What should i do? Really appreciate for any helps.
Thanks & Regards.
yeah same as with you, I also experienced the same thing, just a little thought why was not there an online wallet so they can focus on the development of the public purse and beginners can certainly test the wallet |
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October 04, 2016, 03:23:50 PM |
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I also hope that through the online wallet to make it easier to transact so that holders of coins can be easier to transact with infestor, we could see many people who complain about the wallet IOTA troubled prolonged until today .. I saw this coin is good for the future, but see the flaws with this wallet issue should be a policy for the owner of IOTA, many suggestions to improve this coin what's wrong to make an online wallet ..  |
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October 04, 2016, 03:31:48 PM |
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David, in the Slack you comment about that 100 Mio. VCs will be ready for IOTA. How that´s to understand?
It means that there are large VCs waiting for projects to spawn out of IOTA to invest into, hence why I have repeated 24/7/365 that the thing everyone should be focusing on is getting developers into IOTA and starting projects on top of IOTA ASAP as that is the key to unlock the door of potential laying dormant in being at the forefront of this technology and era. We have fertilized the grounds by bringing in these large VCs, we are developing the tools, we have even planted seeds, but we cannot also grow and micromanage every single project, so whales: step up. It's mindboggling to me how certain (fortunately a small minority) whales haven't already brought in tens of developers like the large holders of Ethereum did before the project was even beta stage. But yea: the potential is gigantic, you will have a greater chance at earning way more via these start-up opportunities than you ever will by 'just holding', so you should take a portion of your iotas, give them to some developers who can realize the ideas you have and then win-win-win Thanks  |
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David, in the Slack you comment about that 100 Mio. VCs will be ready for IOTA. How that´s to understand?
It means that there are large VCs waiting for projects to spawn out of IOTA to invest into, hence why I have repeated 24/7/365 that the thing everyone should be focusing on is getting developers into IOTA and starting projects on top of IOTA ASAP as that is the key to unlock the door of potential laying dormant in being at the forefront of this technology and era. We have fertilized the grounds by bringing in these large VCs, we are developing the tools, we have even planted seeds, but we cannot also grow and micromanage every single project, so whales: step up. It's mindboggling to me how certain (fortunately a small minority) whales haven't already brought in tens of developers like the large holders of Ethereum did before the project was even beta stage. But yea: the potential is gigantic, you will have a greater chance at earning way more via these start-up opportunities than you ever will by 'just holding', so you should take a portion of your iotas, give them to some developers who can realize the ideas you have and then win-win-win How do you compare Iota with Ethereum. Ethereum ICO participants didn't bring in developers, the Foundation did. Is there a place where we holders can connect with developers wanting to work on IOTA apps? I don't know any IoT developers and I don't think you can assume that any holder or whale knows developers that want to work on Iota. I think it's a good initiative for the Foundation to setup a platform where developers can post ideas and whales can post bounties. If this already exists, then we should be posting about it frequently. To be honest, I think a lot of investors here know very little technically about IoT and need some guidance in terms of how to use their IOTA. |
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October 04, 2016, 05:34:54 PM |
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How do you compare Iota with Ethereum. Ethereum ICO participants didn't bring in developers, the Foundation did.
No. Ethereum Foundation only took care of the core development, just like IOTA Foundation are doing with Java, C++, Rust and dev tools/libraries. They did have DEV Grants as well, which they funded with their 17% premine, IOTA had 0% premine. Therefore it is 100% the responsibility of the community to make this happen, the Foundation has absolutely nothing to do with that. Finally, you are 100% wrong regarding Ethereum ICO participants not bringing in developers, Christopher Lubin was the largest participant of Ethereum's crowdsale and brought in over 200 (!) developers and advisors under his ETH conglomerate 'ConsenSys'. Where else do you think Ethereum's success have come from? Of course it is through the right people giving other right people the right incentive to focus on the right things. How can it be that I have to explain this 3-4 times per week for the past year? Is there a place where we holders can connect with developers wanting to work on IOTA apps? I don't know any IoT developers and I don't think you can assume that any holder or whale knows developers that want to work on Iota. Given that we literally told vacuous speculators to fuck off months before the crowdsale even started and have repeated ad nauseam that this is how it is, I do indeed expect that the holders have plans of their own, yes. Of course. I think it's a good initiative for the Foundation to setup a platform where developers can post ideas and whales can post bounties. If this already exists, then we should be posting about it frequently. To be honest, I think a lot of investors here know very little technically about IoT and need some guidance in terms of how to use their IOTA.
This has existed for months in the IOTA Slack under #bounties and same for the IOTA forum. |
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October 04, 2016, 06:14:40 PM |
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How do you compare Iota with Ethereum. Ethereum ICO participants didn't bring in developers, the Foundation did. Is there a place where we holders can connect with developers wanting to work on IOTA apps? I don't know any IoT developers and I don't think you can assume that any holder or whale knows developers that want to work on Iota. I think it's a good initiative for the Foundation to setup a platform where developers can post ideas and whales can post bounties. If this already exists, then we should be posting about it frequently. To be honest, I think a lot of investors here know very little technically about IoT and need some guidance in terms of how to use their IOTA.
You really don't need to know the tech details before you start to look for and talk to developers and startup persons. If you are not technical guys, all you need to know is the high level information about IOTA. This blog is a good summary of the high level information about IOTA - https://medium.com/@DavidSonstebo/iota-97592581f985#.bbmjx7da9. As long as you understand most of the contents in this blog, you are good to go. I have found that the local IoT meetup is a very good source to access the developers and startup persons in the IoT space. I have participated in several IoT meetups in my area. There are lots of developers and entrepreneurs of IoT space in those meetings. All you need to do is to talk with people and maybe pass IOTA flyers to them if you feel comfortable to do so. Maybe you will land a presentation opportunity in the future when you become a more active meeting goer. I have uploaded an IOTA flyer and an IOTA presentation (David created this presentation for us) on the forum - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/connecting-to-your-local-iot-meetup-groups/267/3. You can download them if you want. Give it a try and you will see if it is worth. |
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Warkop
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October 04, 2016, 08:03:46 PM |
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How do you compare Iota with Ethereum. Ethereum ICO participants didn't bring in developers, the Foundation did.
No. Ethereum Foundation only took care of the core development, just like IOTA Foundation are doing with Java, C++, Rust and dev tools/libraries. They did have DEV Grants as well, which they funded with their 17% premine, IOTA had 0% premine. Therefore it is 100% the responsibility of the community to make this happen, the Foundation has absolutely nothing to do with that. Finally, you are 100% wrong regarding Ethereum ICO participants not bringing in developers, Christopher Lubin was the largest participant of Ethereum's crowdsale and brought in over 200 (!) developers and advisors under his ETH conglomerate 'ConsenSys'. Where else do you think Ethereum's success have come from? Of course it is through the right people giving other right people the right incentive to focus on the right things. How can it be that I have to explain this 3-4 times per week for the past year? Is there a place where we holders can connect with developers wanting to work on IOTA apps? I don't know any IoT developers and I don't think you can assume that any holder or whale knows developers that want to work on Iota. Given that we literally told vacuous speculators to fuck off months before the crowdsale even started and have repeated ad nauseam that this is how it is, I do indeed expect that the holders have plans of their own, yes. Of course. I think it's a good initiative for the Foundation to setup a platform where developers can post ideas and whales can post bounties. If this already exists, then we should be posting about it frequently. To be honest, I think a lot of investors here know very little technically about IoT and need some guidance in terms of how to use their IOTA.
This has existed for months in the IOTA Slack under #bounties and same for the IOTA forum. Whether, IOTA will give back the bounty for all people .. ?? |
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October 04, 2016, 08:34:25 PM |
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October 04, 2016, 09:04:52 PM |
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3. Check your balances and addresses vs. the proposed snapshot: http://pastebin.com/NdQjLWbKMy balance is correct, thank you. |
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October 04, 2016, 09:51:14 PM |
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Correct, thank you  |
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October 05, 2016, 12:07:01 AM |
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Have the manual claims been added to the snapshot? I can't see my manual claim addresses edit: I think manual claims may be included later, reading what Dominik posted on iota forum, As we are preparing for the very first snapshot of IOTA to be adopted, we wanted to pre-publish the snapshot so that the community can publicly validate the snapshot and give their approval for its correctness. For the next 48 hours we will leave it open for the community to validate the snapshot.
In a couple of hours I will post a second snapshot, which includes the changed balances for the unclaimed funds. Therefore, it would be great if someone or a group of people validate it all for its correctness and can attest for it. |
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October 05, 2016, 07:32:48 AM |
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missing the last 9 digits of the address, it is normal? |
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October 05, 2016, 09:17:15 AM |
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missing the last 9 digits of the address, it is normal? yes |
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October 05, 2016, 01:51:05 PM |
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Some useful information here: If you don't see your address in the snapshot:
a) Make sure that your address is 81, not 90 chars long
b) Make sure that your address is *supposed* to have a balance (if you have made transactions already, it is likely that this address was already emptied)
c) Check on Tangle.guru to see if there's a balance
d) Only after all of this, contact us and tell us that something is wrong. |
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