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McGee is good but he is not as dominant as howard in the inside position, when Howard was still playing with the Magic, I think that was the highlights of his career, this guy can fly and eager to play physical inside, but many the injuries he suffered has made him lost his confidence, but if he will be playing with Lebron, the best player in the earth, I think he will be more motivated.
Dwight Howard is searching for that championship ring and i think this is the right time for him to have a legitimate shot at that. The Lakers only need half of the old Dwight Howard as the bulk of scoring will be on LBJ and AD. For sure he will accept the offer of the Lakers and be motivated as well knowing that he is on the right direction to have that ring before he retires.
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August 20, 2019, 09:50:36 AM |
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The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team. Good point, but Lakers did gave Javale McGee one of his best seasons in the centre position and even he didn't hurt the Lakers because they have plays design for him to score by just throwing the ball to him in the middle for a alley-oop. So I guess there will be plays similar for Howard in Lakers to help them score. Besides, Lakers is not a outside scoring team, cutting the middle and fast breaks will fit Howard more. One thing to consider though is that Howard is not McGee in terms of movement and willingness to take rolls. I bet Javale doesn't mind whatever type of play he's asked to do or how many minutes he gets. McGee is good but he is not as dominant as howard in the inside position, when Howard was still playing with the Magic, I think that was the highlights of his career, this guy can fly and eager to play physical inside, but many the injuries he suffered has made him lost his confidence, but if he will be playing with Lebron, the best player in the earth, I think he will be more motivated. But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go. As per Howard, I think what made him lost his stature in the NBA is him not taking everything seriously. He was once in the Lakers with Kobe, a possibility for him to win a ring, but personal egos clash. That's why he didn't stay and after that injuries, he just had a so-so NBA career. He has given a second chance and shouldn't take this for granted. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
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August 20, 2019, 10:11:08 AM |
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But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go.
I think he learned a lot when he was playing with the GSW, he already won the championship and that already increase his confidence. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
That's all he needs to do, and I think Lebron is a better teammate than Kobe because based on his history, he won championship with stars on his side, good example was when he played at the miami heat, he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and they did have a great chemistry. Lebron is only known for kicking out coaches, but loves his teammates.
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August 20, 2019, 12:40:56 PM |
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But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go.
I think he learned a lot when he was playing with the GSW, he already won the championship and that already increase his confidence. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
That's all he needs to do, and I think Lebron is a better teammate than Kobe because based on his history, he won championship with stars on his side, good example was when he played at the miami heat, he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and they did have a great chemistry. Lebron is only known for kicking out coaches, but loves his teammates. Even when he was the butt of jokes during his tenure in the shaqtin a fool, mcgee has shown brilliance every now and then. They just highlighted his blunders that's all but he's pretty much getting the job done. Probably just needs to be in the right system like in kerr's. I don't think dwight's going to recover his old self though. Doesn't matter how good a teammate Lebron is. Just like with kobe, attitude would probably get him clashing with his teammates.
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August 20, 2019, 01:55:38 PM |
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I don't know about that. He always wanted to be the main man that's why his time at Lakers (with Kobe) and Rockets were not really productive. Is he willing to let go of his ego this time and let others command him?
No, it's not that he's always like to be the main man. It's not making sense for him to act like that since he's the one who arrived at those teams and he knows Kobe and Harden is the main core of that said teams. During his time in Lakers and Rockets, he is not fit with the system, that's it. In his Orlando Magic days, their main play is he always does a post-up play, way different in his next following teams which he will just wait on the paint for an upcoming lob pass. And ego? He is already a veteran who will come out from a year-long injury. No way he will act unprofessionally once he played again for the Lakers. I honestly even think that we can't see Howard again competing in a heated playoffs match so this is a great opportunity for him. Anyways, Howard transfer isn't already official so we just have to wait for what will be the progress of that story.
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August 20, 2019, 02:40:19 PM |
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I don't know about that. He always wanted to be the main man that's why his time at Lakers (with Kobe) and Rockets were not really productive. Is he willing to let go of his ego this time and let others command him?
No, it's not that he's always like to be the main man. It's not making sense for him to act like that since he's the one who arrived at those teams and he knows Kobe and Harden is the main core of that said teams. During his time in Lakers and Rockets, he is not fit with the system, that's it. In his Orlando Magic days, their main play is he always does a post-up play, way different in his next following teams which he will just wait on the paint for an upcoming lob pass. And ego? He is already a veteran who will come out from a year-long injury. No way he will act unprofessionally once he played again for the Lakers. I honestly even think that we can't see Howard again competing in a heated playoffs match so this is a great opportunity for him. He wanted to be the main man. I remember reading/watching from years ago that the main reason why he ended up with the Rockets and not re-signing with the Lakers was that he thought Kobe wasn't willing to pass the torch (yet). He can't adjust to the system built around Kobe and Harden because he wanted it to be just like in Orlando where he was the main man.
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August 20, 2019, 03:07:09 PM |
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No, it's not that he's always like to be the main man. It's not making sense for him to act like that since he's the one who arrived at those teams and he knows Kobe and Harden is the main core of that said teams.
True. He doesn't really have that team where he is the focus of everything. So he aint the main man. During his time in Lakers and Rockets, he is not fit with the system, that's it. In his Orlando Magic days, their main play is he always does a post-up play, way different in his next following teams which he will just wait on the paint for an upcoming lob pass.
He is one of the players which is least liked even with the super dunks that he did. Although he had some post-up plays, he aint like that Duncan type or the Aldridge type who could shoot so well in perimeter. And ego? He is already a veteran who will come out from a year-long injury. No way he will act unprofessionally once he played again for the Lakers. I honestly even think that we can't see Howard again competing in a heated playoffs match so this is a great opportunity for him.
Anyways, Howard transfer isn't already official so we just have to wait for what will be the progress of that story.
Yeah, veterans tend to do it for money. I dont think he is still up to the point where he want to be a superstar. Maybe, just a ring will be enough with some minutes on the floor so that the ring will still have a little value in the future. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He averaged 9 points and 9 rebounds at Wizards in 9 games and 16 points and 12 rebounds at Hornets in 2017 with an enormous 81 games played which is really a good one. He is still a good addition for the team if ever.
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August 20, 2019, 04:13:01 PM |
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I still can't believe Lakers would even consider Howard after he left the team, I mean this dude has been so horrible in the past years that no team wanted to keep him and now he looks like he is done and will not be played and Lakers consider him at the center position?
Cousins could be gone and I hope he will return healthier but at the same time Mcgee can survive there and you can get a rookie or whatever even an undrafted center or ANY leftover free agent center like Joakim Noah and just make them play instead of Dwight freaking Howard. I would love to get Tyson chandler back if he is not gone to a new team already. Some players are not worth the risk you take, having Howard would mean you are forgetting all he has done to your team and hoping he would play better than he played in all other teams that sacked him. Not a chance.
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August 20, 2019, 04:23:08 PM |
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Dwight on ths hand, he is still agile. It wont be a problem for the Lakers since AD is there. It will just low minutes for this centers. I bet they will go small when AD is on the floor.
In fairness to Dwight, looking at his stats, his average on the last season he played (2017-2018) as a big man is good (16.6 points, 12.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks and 1.3 assists) and still can consider as a decent stats for a post-prime player at a center position. However, that was before his injury last year + hamstring issue just last March this year. He just played 9 games last season (November 2018). I just hope that the time he spent on recovery will yield a good result. And besides, even Cousins didn't suffer an injury recently, his position has limited time so don't expect Howard to be in full court for more minutes. In other words, they are just backup centers as Lakers are used to play now without a big man. We all know that there's no much post-up play when LeBron is on the floor. The last thing the lakers need is someone clogging the lanes. Stats aside they only tell one story, I wouldn't take d Howard, it will only hurt the team. At least cousins can play outside the lanes which that might have worked. Good point, but Lakers did gave Javale McGee one of his best seasons in the centre position and even he didn't hurt the Lakers because they have plays design for him to score by just throwing the ball to him in the middle for a alley-oop. So I guess there will be plays similar for Howard in Lakers to help them score. Besides, Lakers is not a outside scoring team, cutting the middle and fast breaks will fit Howard more. That was also before AD came to the team as well. Lebron and AD just need histle people around them, that is not D Howard's game anymore. I'm not a fan of the lakers by any means but I would be hoping for a young athletic big that is looking for any minutes and would be a scrapper for the team....and dont block the middle of the key
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August 20, 2019, 05:31:15 PM |
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Hats right, since Howard is not a post up player. Cutting to the center is what best suit the play for the Lakers and with LeBron running the plays, Howard would be the best receiver of his plays.
Wait. You're getting it all wrong. Howard is not the type of player that follows the plan of the team. Remember his rocket days? That team didn't work out because of him. He doesn't want Pick and Rolls and I've seen on LeBron's game that he can garner assists by playing P&R. I believe Howard is the guy that gets his points with his post game with the use of his strength.
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August 20, 2019, 06:26:33 PM |
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I still can't believe Lakers would even consider Howard after he left the team, I mean this dude has been so horrible in the past years that no team wanted to keep him and now he looks like he is done and will not be played and Lakers consider him at the center position?
Desperation time. They badly needed a replacement for Boogie and because Lebron probably needs more help to win another championship. It's not that I am underestimating Dwight but I don't think the Lakers really need him.
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August 20, 2019, 08:52:22 PM |
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I still can't believe Lakers would even consider Howard after he left the team, I mean this dude has been so horrible in the past years that no team wanted to keep him and now he looks like he is done and will not be played and Lakers consider him at the center position?
Desperation time. They badly needed a replacement for Boogie and because Lebron probably needs more help to win another championship. It's not that I am underestimating Dwight but I don't think the Lakers really need him. With Howard there is a reason teams dont want him....some players just cant win because they dont realize their own limitations and that ends up always hurting the team. They would be better without him. Stats are not everything
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August 20, 2019, 09:24:25 PM |
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Refer to my previous response guys why Lakers consider Howard. As an additional update to it, Howard, Joakim Noah and Mo Speights are the only centers available that Lakers can deal in a bargain or can be buyout by their current team and "worth to put a shot" compare just by picking young guys. Lakers don't need any new players. It's just a plan think since Boogie got injured. If you think that there's another option you want for them, you can tweet your suggestion to Lakers official Twitter account lol.
Anyways, this story is currently in progress and not an official yet. Lakers will undergo evaluation first to these players.
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August 20, 2019, 09:36:54 PM |
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He wanted to be the main man.
I remember reading/watching from years ago that the main reason why he ended up with the Rockets and not re-signing with the Lakers was that he thought Kobe wasn't willing to pass the torch (yet). He can't adjust to the system built around Kobe and Harden because he wanted it to be just like in Orlando where he was the main man.
I disagree that he wants to be the main man when he was on the Lakers. He already knows that Kobe is the face of the Lakers. He wasn't used to Kobe's ball hog. He complained about that since he wasn't getting the ball enough. He likes to contribute on offense but not as the main man, however, he didn't get any chances. That's why he said later on that he will become dominate aside from scoring and it happened as he got the league leader in rebounding that season.
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August 20, 2019, 10:16:52 PM |
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But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go.
I think he learned a lot when he was playing with the GSW, he already won the championship and that already increase his confidence. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
That's all he needs to do, and I think Lebron is a better teammate than Kobe because based on his history, he won championship with stars on his side, good example was when he played at the miami heat, he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and they did have a great chemistry. Lebron is only known for kicking out coaches, but loves his teammates. Even when he was the butt of jokes during his tenure in the shaqtin a fool, mcgee has shown brilliance every now and then. They just highlighted his blunders that's all but he's pretty much getting the job done. Probably just needs to be in the right system like in kerr's. I don't think dwight's going to recover his old self though. Doesn't matter how good a teammate Lebron is. Just like with kobe, attitude would probably get him clashing with his teammates. I remember most of Mcgee's shaqtin a fools moments was when he was still playing with the Denver Nuggets, but when he played with the Warriors, he made some good highlights there, Alley-oop dunks and blocking shots was his mastery. Speaking about Howard, it's good that he has the mentality of a star ,he doesn't surrender that because he thinks he is still good as before, but time changes, he is not getting any younger and he hasn't been playing lot of games, with the Lakers, he could have a limited minutes compared to his past teams, so he has to embrace that, I believe if it's the future is on the line here, he can change and adopt, especially playing with Lebron which is more valuable than him.
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August 21, 2019, 07:14:18 AM |
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But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go.
I think he learned a lot when he was playing with the GSW, he already won the championship and that already increase his confidence. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
That's all he needs to do, and I think Lebron is a better teammate than Kobe because based on his history, he won championship with stars on his side, good example was when he played at the miami heat, he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and they did have a great chemistry. Lebron is only known for kicking out coaches, but loves his teammates. Even when he was the butt of jokes during his tenure in the shaqtin a fool, mcgee has shown brilliance every now and then. They just highlighted his blunders that's all but he's pretty much getting the job done. Probably just needs to be in the right system like in kerr's. I don't think dwight's going to recover his old self though. Doesn't matter how good a teammate Lebron is. Just like with kobe, attitude would probably get him clashing with his teammates. Most of his Shaqtin' A Fool was pre-GSW, that's why he has evolved and learn something when he was at GSW. He was given time to shine, but it was not a performance though that someone will be proud of. But when he moved to Lakers last year, we have seen a lot of improved from Javale. I think he is good at the Lakers system, he easily adopted and his teammates loves him. And that is very important as he gain confidence to really contribute to the Lakers. Dwight is different though, started strong in the league but then gradually lost his confidence and relegate to team that didn't even contend to the playoffs + injuries.
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August 21, 2019, 07:21:01 AM |
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But McGee is very effective right? He was once the laughing stock of NBA and Shaqtin' A Fool. But he improved a lot with the Lakers that's why they didn't let him go.
I think he learned a lot when he was playing with the GSW, he already won the championship and that already increase his confidence. He should mature and contribute and give his 100% if he wanted to be successful and have that first ring with Lebron and Davis around, as time is not on his side.
That's all he needs to do, and I think Lebron is a better teammate than Kobe because based on his history, he won championship with stars on his side, good example was when he played at the miami heat, he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and they did have a great chemistry. Lebron is only known for kicking out coaches, but loves his teammates. Even when he was the butt of jokes during his tenure in the shaqtin a fool, mcgee has shown brilliance every now and then. They just highlighted his blunders that's all but he's pretty much getting the job done. Probably just needs to be in the right system like in kerr's. I don't think dwight's going to recover his old self though. Doesn't matter how good a teammate Lebron is. Just like with kobe, attitude would probably get him clashing with his teammates. Most of his Shaqtin' A Fool was pre-GSW, that's why he has evolved and learn something when he was at GSW. He was given time to shine, but it was not a performance though that someone will be proud of. But when he moved to Lakers last year, we have seen a lot of improved from Javale. I think he is good at the Lakers system, he easily adopted and his teammates loves him. And that is very important as he gain confidence to really contribute to the Lakers. Dwight is different though, started strong in the league but then gradually lost his confidence and relegate to team that didn't even contend to the playoffs + injuries. Injuries is the big reason why he gradually loss his confidence, he will be cautious and be more careful when in the court, hence that would make him less aggressive and that will be his weakness because he can be exploited with that. Most of the players that experience a lot of injuries were not the same team when they come back healthy, well, except for Paul George, but I can name a few that was not able to comeback, that includes Howard of course and one of my favorite players D Rose.
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August 21, 2019, 07:30:55 AM |
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August 21, 2019, 08:01:36 AM |
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Hope Melo will be picked by a team that will have make a great chemistry over its players, how about he back again at Denver and help those youngsters I guess that's make a great team. I am for sure there are teams that will get Melo or maybe by this news LBJ will pick him.
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August 21, 2019, 08:33:39 AM |
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He wanted to be the main man.
I remember reading/watching from years ago that the main reason why he ended up with the Rockets and not re-signing with the Lakers was that he thought Kobe wasn't willing to pass the torch (yet). He can't adjust to the system built around Kobe and Harden because he wanted it to be just like in Orlando where he was the main man.
I disagree that he wants to be the main man when he was on the Lakers. He already knows that Kobe is the face of the Lakers. He wasn't used to Kobe's ball hog. He complained about that since he wasn't getting the ball enough. He likes to contribute on offense but not as the main man, however, he didn't get any chances. That's why he said later on that he will become dominate aside from scoring and it happened as he got the league leader in rebounding that season. Yeah, these guys are really up to their stats. When will I see another Ben Wallace again. A center despite of his height which doesnt care about offense but just winning. He is more into defense and we saw how he did it with his Pistons game. Whenever their game ends below 100 points then it is a win for the Pistons. That means defense did work. While now, it is all about the points. Give me one team now who really is focusing on defense? Utah was good but not that tough.
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