2024 NBA Season

[sana54210]

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

[Russlenat]

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

That's the only amount the Warriors could offer, so it's either he will be traded and wait for the contract extension to get a max contract, or he will stay with the team still thinking about what happened that Poole got that huge contract after he punched him in the face. Green is a trouble maker, that's why he is called as a dirty player, but against his teammates, that's unacceptable.

[wheelz1200]

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

Agreed he is on the wrong side of a max contract.  He isn't getting better and will be on the decline shortly.  I know you have to overpay sometimes but giving him a max contract would choke out any flexibility gs would have for the next 4 years

[Maidak]

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.

There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.
I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

Agreed he is on the wrong side of a max contract.  He isn't getting better and will be on the decline shortly.  I know you have to overpay sometimes but giving him a max contract would choke out any flexibility gs would have for the next 4 years

I really do not think that the owners will be willing to give him that much money. It is not an exaggeration to say that he is a troublemaker, it is the truth to say that he is one. Due to the fact that he is a troublemaker, I think they will not be making any mistakes if they do not give him a max contract.

In addition, I think he is also aware of the fact that he is not a necessity in the team at the moment. After his little "punching stunt", a lot of teams are not going to want to take him on as well if they wish to trade him. There is no way I think they are going to trade him in the first place. All I want to say is I agree with @sana54210 that he is not getting a max contract.

[püsür]

Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Poole performed well last season, and it looks like the Warriors' management is well aware Poole has huge potential. So this contract extension was quite expected. At the same time, this deal might not be good news for Draymond because the Warriors are clearly hinting that they prefer Poole.
p.s.
There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.

Wiggins also got the contract as you have said, 109 million for four years. I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions? Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding? Curry is 34 years old now. The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.

[dwyane36]

I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?

As far as I know, the Warriors will probably spend over $500 million in the 23/24 season, including $268 million in taxes. That's really a lot, but I think the Warriors have enough revenue sources to cover such huge expenses. Obviously, tickets aren't the only source of revenue for this team. I'm more than sure the Warriors also make a lot of money from TV, merchandising, advertising, and various partnerships.

[Jating]

I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?

As far as I know, the Warriors will probably spend over $500 million in the 23/24 season, including $268 million in taxes. That's really a lot, but I think the Warriors have enough revenue sources to cover such huge expenses. Obviously, tickets aren't the only source of revenue for this team. I'm more than sure the Warriors also make a lot of money from TV, merchandising, advertising, and various partnerships.

Yes, there are other sources of revenue and so I guess they can spend that huge amount just to sign Wiggins and Poole to a huge contract.

And I think they made the right decision for this two, they are part of the core now and so the Warriors should pay them otherwise they will leave for sure just like the rest of their second unit. Although you can't blame them, at least with the Warriors experience, they can bring their talent and obviously good contract from other teams.

[Baofeng]

Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Poole performed well last season, and it looks like the Warriors' management is well aware Poole has huge potential. So this contract extension was quite expected. At the same time, this deal might not be good news for Draymond because the Warriors are clearly hinting that they prefer Poole.
p.s.
There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.

Wiggins also got the contract as you have said, 109 million for four years. I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions? Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding? Curry is 34 years old now. The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.

Boils down to the end result and goal, to win a championship.

And so the Warriors have find the perfect fit again in Poole and Wiggins and so they are wiling to take that risk and think that it will be the next generation of players that will bring them a championship.

As long as fans are willing to pay tickets and watch the Warriors  then I would say that the tax situation won't be a problem for them. Compare to other teams as well who are rebuilding for this season. They are willing to pay players huge money just to be able to win a ring, like the Nets.

[harizen]

If only Draymond Green expressed his concern over his desire for the max contract prior to signing a 4-year $100 million in 2020-21, maybe things today might have changed. Asking for such kind of huge contract at this point in his career is really a no-brainer to grant. Now entering his post-prime period, he is even lucky that his current contract is still considered one of the good contracts out there providing his stats is not that appealing anymore. Being a team advisor, especially to young cores is not a factor.

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.

[blockman]

Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes?

Likely, they have no option but to pay that, and AFAIK, and that's why they can't just max out some contracts but still give their players a decent one.

Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?

Yeah, that includes ticket sales and other stuff like sponsorships.
(https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/071415/how-nba-makes-money.asp)

[Yogee]

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Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding?  The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.

Some franchise broke their team to avoid high luxury taxes in the past but I doubt this is what the Warriors is planning. They will let go of other players for sure but their future line up is quite secured with Wiggins and Poole in my opinion. They will do just fine post Steph and Klay era.

[jakelyson]

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Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding?  The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.

Some franchise broke their team to avoid high luxury taxes in the past but I doubt this is what the Warriors is planning. They will let go of other players for sure but their future line up is quite secured with Wiggins and Poole in my opinion. They will do just fine post Steph and Klay era.

Fortunately for GSW, they are raking in money right now because of Steph Curry. Fans are willing to pay high priced tickets just to watch them play. GSW will make more money than the luxury tax they are paying. It is still good business for them as long as they keep winning.

They do not have to break the team, but they do have to let go of some good players in order to make space for their young cores. Earlier, they let go of Gary Payton II even though he was really good last season, especially in defense. It still worked out for Payton though because he still got a good contract with Blazers. I just hope they made the right decision choosing Poole and Wiggins to anchor their future.

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.

I wonder where would Green go after GSW. He is not actually a player that could produce by himself. He needs a good system that can exploit his talents and he needs teammates that compliment his playstyle in order to be effective.

[chaser15]

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.

If he keeps being healthy, we might see again another player in today's basketball that is dominating the paint. Even though he can shoot 3s, his main offense is coming from the inside. Not just in offense but he is also a good defender under the rim. His presence inside is enough for that specific player not to attempt to attack the rim.

About Brandom Ingram, he's been always acting as the main guy since his Lakers day but sorry to say that he really doesn't have the ability to be the main guy or at least carry a team. He is sometimes on and off too with his performance.

[carlisle1]

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.

If he keeps being healthy, we might see again another player in today's basketball that is dominating the paint. Even though he can shoot 3s, his main offense is coming from the inside. Not just in offense but he is also a good defender under the rim. His presence inside is enough for that specific player not to attempt to attack the rim.

About Brandom Ingram, he's been always acting as the main guy since his Lakers day but sorry to say that he really doesn't have the ability to be the main guy or at least carry a team. He is sometimes on and off too with his performance.

With CJ playing with them I think the three stars need to have good chemistries, they are more competitive now as a
team considering both Jonas and Willy a current MVP from last FIBA Europe will jibe with them.

Zion can play as a power forward while both CJ and Brandom will take care mostly outside,
the two towers can bring them more chances of offensive rebounds, though it will be going to
depend on how the coaches will take care of the players rotations and how they will design the play.

[Jating]

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.

If he keeps being healthy, we might see again another player in today's basketball that is dominating the paint. Even though he can shoot 3s, his main offense is coming from the inside. Not just in offense but he is also a good defender under the rim. His presence inside is enough for that specific player not to attempt to attack the rim.

About Brandom Ingram, he's been always acting as the main guy since his Lakers day but sorry to say that he really doesn't have the ability to be the main guy or at least carry a team. He is sometimes on and off too with his performance.

I can't say if he will be as dominating inside or in the paint because there are also a lot of good defenders inside. But the thing with Zion is that he can play outside as well I believed. He can be a threat in 3 point as he can shoot it.

And then he had help with CJ and Ingram. Another option is that he can play post and then pass the ball outside.

I will like to see Zion developed to be a great and elite player, not just known to be power and giving us highlight dunks.

[danherbias07]

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.

I wonder where would Green go after GSW. He is not actually a player that could produce by himself. He needs a good system that can exploit his talents and he needs teammates that compliment his playstyle in order to be effective.

Makes me wonder too.
I always like comparing this era's players to old ones but I cannot find one that would best suit the comparison for him.
Not even Dennis Rodman.
It will be a difficult task for other teams to insert him in their rotation as his play style is mostly about giving a shooter space which is Klay and Steph.
What else can he do after that because it will be predictable in the long run?

[Pamadar]

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.

If he keeps being healthy, we might see again another player in today's basketball that is dominating the paint. Even though he can shoot 3s, his main offense is coming from the inside. Not just in offense but he is also a good defender under the rim. His presence inside is enough for that specific player not to attempt to attack the rim.

About Brandom Ingram, he's been always acting as the main guy since his Lakers day but sorry to say that he really doesn't have the ability to be the main guy or at least carry a team. He is sometimes on and off too with his performance.

I can't say if he will be as dominating inside or in the paint because there are also a lot of good defenders inside. But the thing with Zion is that he can play outside as well I believed. He can be a threat in 3 point as he can shoot it.

And then he had help with CJ and Ingram. Another option is that he can play post and then pass the ball outside.

I will like to see Zion developed to be a great and elite player, not just known to be power and giving us highlight dunks.

If Zion adjusts with his advantages, I'm sure we will see more interesting game from NOP.

They have him inside and he can post up and create a double to find an opening for his teammates, he just need to
look for that play first before forcing his shots inside.

And like what you said, Zion also has outside shots that he can take if he has a good look. Regular season is
approaching, we will see good improvements from NOP with Zion playing.

[Ziskinberg]

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.

I wonder where would Green go after GSW. He is not actually a player that could produce by himself. He needs a good system that can exploit his talents and he needs teammates that compliment his playstyle in order to be effective.

Makes me wonder too.
I always like comparing this era's players to old ones but I cannot find one that would best suit the comparison for him.
Not even Dennis Rodman.
It will be a difficult task for other teams to insert him in their rotation as his play style is mostly about giving a shooter space which is Klay and Steph.
What else can he do after that because it will be predictable in the long run?

We are underestimating him too much, Green is a star player for a reason, of course, he will still be effective in other teams because of the coaching staff will make sure that once they acquire him they have a system that will fit for him, imagine giving him a max salary and not using him effectively, that's insane.

[inthelongrun]

So both Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole got 4-year deals in their new contracts. But Wiggins got only $109 million in his deal while Poole secured a $140 million contract. Wiggins though admitted that he is very happy at GSW so he was willing to take the pay cut in order to keep the team's core roster. Pretty sure Wiggins could've secured a more expensive contract than Poole following his solid performance last season. I'm just glad that he finally finds peace and happiness at GSW. He was once dubbed a failure after being drafted at pick 1. Jordan Poole on the other hand is now feeling better and is all in for the team this coming season. I wonder what's on Green's mind now? Green should be lucky enough to get a Wiggins-type deal because his numbers are decreasing and he is also becoming older to deserve long contracts.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

So both Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole got 4-year deals in their new contracts. But Wiggins got only $109 million in his deal while Poole secured a $140 million contract. Wiggins though admitted that he is very happy at GSW so he was willing to take the pay cut in order to keep the team's core roster. Pretty sure Wiggins could've secured a more expensive contract than Poole following his solid performance last season. I'm just glad that he finally finds peace and happiness at GSW. He was once dubbed a failure after being drafted at pick 1. Jordan Poole on the other hand is now feeling better and is all in for the team this coming season. I wonder what's on Green's mind now? Green should be lucky enough to get a Wiggins-type deal because his numbers are decreasing and he is also becoming older to deserve long contracts.

I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.

We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.