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June 20, 2023, 03:52:28 AM
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The Brooklyn Nets are trying to make a deal with the Pelicans to get Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons and a whole bunch of draft picks.  This seems like a terrible deal for both teams if I'm being honest.  The Pelicans getting Ben Simmons would pretty much destroy their team in my opinion and kick off a rebuild with their picks.  Meanwhile the Nets would give up all their picks assuring that they suck for years while picking up Zion, who has been injury prone and won't be there to carry the team.  Both teams are a disaster, but the Pelicans really have to get a win now attitude while they have Ingram and Zion on the roster.
Yeah, that's a terrible deal if the New Orleans Pelicans will accept it. Zion Williamson may be an injury-prone player but whenever he plays, they become like a super team with his strength and agility.
IMO, Brooklyn Nets are not a bad team. They are composed of roleplayers that are backing up stars before they all fell on one team, it's just a matter of chemistry for them. The only problem that I see is they are leaderless. They play on their own with isolation plays. Maybe CP3 may actually be better here in this team. Lead it, be the veteran that they needed, and some of the players there are actually his previous teammates. Perhaps something else can be offered by the Nets that would make the Wizards take the deal, but avoid wasting Cam Johnson and Mikal Bridges, those two are definitely good players.
If they want Simmons out, put him in the deal to make the offer as sweet as possible. I think the Wizards will also just use CP3 as their ace for a good trade.

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June 20, 2023, 05:46:17 AM
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I just got to say now that the NBA season is finished I really want to talk about the problem of the Golden State Warriors moving forward in the 2024 season,
1] Draymond Green - for me, they can not afford to lose Draymond Green and JJ Redick also said that the Crucial Pinnacle for the Warriors is Draymond Green, and they can not afford to lose him, because Green is so important to everything they do on both sides of the basketball this is what Redick have said,

I don't think they will let go of Draymond Green because they already established a strong bond with him, and they will have a hard time again if they replace him with some other player that will not be going to listen and do what they said. we all know other players are hard to tame. At least Green knows his limit when he does trash-talk and does some nasty things inside and outside the court. But if they have someone who is more capable of playing and has the skills to replace him, he will be replaced this year and might not get his chance back to play with the GSW.
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June 20, 2023, 05:47:25 AM
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1] Draymond Green - for me, they can not afford to lose Draymond Green and JJ Redick also said that the Crucial Pinnacle for the Warriors is Draymond Green, and they can not afford to lose him, because Green is so important to everything they do on both sides of the basketball this is what Redick have said,
I totally agree with that. Draymond Green is the heart of the Warriors' defense. The players move well because Draymond knows how to facilitate the ball and improve the team's defense. I can't imagine what would happen to the Warriors without him. If we look at the statistics from last season when Draymond Green was absent, I believe they had a negative impact, and they improved significantly when Draymond returned.

Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

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June 20, 2023, 06:58:05 AM
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Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

This clearly shows that Draymond no longer has a favorable opinion of the organization. He was a valuable member of the team and played a significant role in the Warriors' multiple championship victories. However, when Poole joined the team and delivered an outstanding performance during their last championship win, the organization decided to give him a max contract to secure his stay.

Unfortunately, Draymond felt disrespected by this decision, leading to a strained relationship between the two players. As a result, it seems likely that both players will leave the team, with one potentially being traded.

If Draymond were to land with the Lakers, I would be confident in betting on them to win the championship.
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June 20, 2023, 08:20:48 AM
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The Brooklyn Nets are trying to make a deal with the Pelicans to get Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons and a whole bunch of draft picks.  This seems like a terrible deal for both teams if I'm being honest.  The Pelicans getting Ben Simmons would pretty much destroy their team in my opinion and kick off a rebuild with their picks.  Meanwhile the Nets would give up all their picks assuring that they suck for years while picking up Zion, who has been injury prone and won't be there to carry the team.  Both teams are a disaster, but the Pelicans really have to get a win now attitude while they have Ingram and Zion on the roster.
I see the proposed swap of Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons plus draft picks as a risky venture for the Nets and the Pelicans. Simmons' addition could unsettle the Pelicans, necessitating an abrupt rebuild. Conversely, the Nets would gamble their future by giving up draft picks, only to gain an injury-prone Williamson. It seems shaky, at best. I suggest the Pelicans exploit their present lineup for immediate triumph, instead of banking on uncertain future prospects.

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June 20, 2023, 10:28:16 AM
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Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

This clearly shows that Draymond no longer has a favorable opinion of the organization. He was a valuable member of the team and played a significant role in the Warriors' multiple championship victories. However, when Poole joined the team and delivered an outstanding performance during their last championship win, the organization decided to give him a max contract to secure his stay.

Unfortunately, Draymond felt disrespected by this decision, leading to a strained relationship between the two players. As a result, it seems likely that both players will leave the team, with one potentially being traded.

If Draymond were to land with the Lakers, I would be confident in betting on them to win the championship.

Draymond still have favorable opinion on GSW organization its just their management didn't expect to see how awful the performance of Poole during important times that's why by now for sure they regret to give more higher contract to him since they would lose more valuable asset like Draymond. And now they can't offer what Dray ask them because they already paying luxury tax and they can't afford to increase it more.

Maybe if they trade Poole they can do something and it can change the mind of Dray to remain on GSW.

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Last season before it started, it was the Boston Celtics deemed as the favorite to crown as champions and it stayed that way until the end of the regular season. I wonder which team would be favored in the next season. At the current rosters, my bet is on Denver Nuggets the defending champions, or the Phoenix Suns. With Beal, the Suns once again have 4 All-Star starters and looked stronger than the previous season.

I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams. And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
Celtics will still be up there as one of the favorites. How about taking CP3 in exchange of Smart? I think that will be a good deal for both teams since Wizards will likely let go of him anyway. Celtics will get a real point guard and a veteran at that to finally push this team. Chris Paul should have no problem in this since he'll be in a good team while Tatum and Brown will benefit from his mentorship.

That should be good if the Wizards will just accept a 1:1 trade for Marcus Smart in exchange for Chris Paul towards the Boston Celtics, but I really doubt that though because even if the latter is not the player he used to be, he still have a good figure in his head and that could really cost the Celtics some few picks or at least players just to get Chris Paul on their line up. Overall, it will be big help for the team if they are able to get CP3.


For me is a good trade if Wizard will allow that, CP3 with the duo who needs someone who can mentor them,

I mean the knowledge CP3 has can bring something that will add up with the skills of these two stars,
though just like what you mentioned, it will be depends on Wizard if they will let a 1:1 trade.

Smart is a good 2-way player who can develop good chemistry with Kuzma and Porzingis if both still have
the competitiveness inside them, I mean both Kuz and KP are great individual players,  but I don't see
any eagerness to push the team into competition.
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1. Unfortunately, Draymond Green opted out on his final contract with the Warriors, and now he is an unrestricted free agent. I guess that would be the end of the Warriors dynasty unless the Warriors will give other offer to him, but it seems like he wants to be with another team, and wants a higher salary this year.

2. They really need it, and we saw that they really need it when we saw how the Lakers just bullied them inside the paint. I still remember the times where the Lakers got McGee, David West, Speights, David Lee, Bogut, Pachulia and other bigs. I mean they're gone in the NBA already except for McGee, but it's pretty obvious that the Warriors are better if they have big players in their team. They badly need one.

3. They only have at most 2 years to win a title again. What the team needs right now are big players who can defend the paint. Green already opted out on his contract, so they need another elite defender to cover what Green left with the team.

Well, we can not say for sure if he still wanted to be in the Warriors, and based on his Podcast talking with coach Steve Kerr I think that the GSW will still want his servitude, and like I said he is helping the Warriors make it to the finals so I think the Warriors will not let him go that easily,

For me, they Badly needed 2 big players and it is a waste giving up James Wiseman but they badly needed already honed big players and maybe James Wiseman in the future he surely needs to improve himself, but as you have said JaVale McGee can also be a great addition even though he doesn't have any deep shooting his inside scoring and defensive power can provide the Warriors with great paint offense and defense,

For sure Draymond Green will not leave the Warriors but if he did getting some big players is a must for the Warriors

Well the Beal trade won't happen for obvious reasons.  Grin

Dame said he would stay in Portland, doesn't really want to leave, but he is leaving it up to the front office if they want to ship him.

Also, the Warriors just said they want to keep Poole, but we all know that might mean nothing if the right trade is getting offered. If they can get a good big man like Bam or DeAndre A. he would be gone fast. Though, Miami and Phoenix have no use for Poole. The Suns are stacked with shooters and Miami would rather get Lillard of course.

Lauri Markannen would be a nice addition, but there is no reason for Utah to trade their only allstar player.



Well if those trades I think is not possible then focusing on getting big men is a must, but it is a crucial addition that it will revolve around Stephen Curry, in addition to what I think Karl-Anthony Towns if he decided to be traded, or Deandre Ayton if the Phoenix Suns wouldn't want him to be in their team anymore, he surely is a great addition to the Warriors for sure,

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I don't think they will let go of Draymond Green because they already established a strong bond with him, and they will have a hard time again if they replace him with some other player that will not be going to listen and do what they said. we all know other players are hard to tame. At least Green knows his limit when he does trash-talk and does some nasty things inside and outside the court. But if they have someone who is more capable of playing and has the skills to replace him, he will be replaced this year and might not get his chance back to play with the GSW.

I totally agree with that. Draymond Green is the heart of the Warriors' defense. The players move well because Draymond knows how to facilitate the ball and improve the team's defense. I can't imagine what would happen to the Warriors without him. If we look at the statistics from last season when Draymond Green was absent, I believe they had a negative impact, and they improved significantly when Draymond returned.

Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

Well I also think that Draymond Green is a key figure for the Warrior's Success and I truly agree that he is the heart of the Warrior's Defense if he was not around the Defense will surely crumble, even making play will be very difficult without him, so just like you two I really can't imagine a Warriors team without Draymond Green,

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June 20, 2023, 10:56:49 AM
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Well I also think that Draymond Green is a key figure for the Warrior's Success and I truly agree that he is the heart of the Warrior's Defense if he was not around the Defense will surely crumble, even making play will be very difficult without him, so just like you two I really can't imagine a Warriors team without Draymond Green,
The question is, who would the Warriors acquire to replace Draymond's role? We know that Draymond is not an offensive threat, but he excels in defense and ball facilitation. What would be Curry and Thompson's reaction if Draymond were to leave? Can they still maintain their status as the Splash Brothers without a player who consistently sets screens and assists with ball handling?

However according to the betting odds from: https://www.810thespread.com/news/draymond-greens-potential-landing-spots/

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Here’s a look at the teams with the six best odds to land Green, according to the initial numbers released by DraftKings: Warriors +150, Lakers +500, Mavericks +700, Suns +800, Rockets +1500, Heat +2000.

The Warriors are still the top favorite for Draymond to land with. Smiley

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June 20, 2023, 11:08:26 AM
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1] Draymond Green - for me, they can not afford to lose Draymond Green and JJ Redick also said that the Crucial Pinnacle for the Warriors is Draymond Green, and they can not afford to lose him, because Green is so important to everything they do on both sides of the basketball this is what Redick have said,
I totally agree with that. Draymond Green is the heart of the Warriors' defense. The players move well because Draymond knows how to facilitate the ball and improve the team's defense. I can't imagine what would happen to the Warriors without him. If we look at the statistics from last season when Draymond Green was absent, I believe they had a negative impact, and they improved significantly when Draymond returned.

Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

It's the risk that the Warriors management has to pay, nobody see how Jordan Poole's performance last season, including the playoffs wherein he was none existent. But during their championship run, he was a big factor for their offense.

And if Draymond decided to leave, then they will have to live with that decision. Of course they will be affected, but who knows, maybe Green is willing to sacrifice money and stay with the Warriors at least for this season and make another run.

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June 20, 2023, 11:15:24 AM
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Well I also think that Draymond Green is a key figure for the Warrior's Success and I truly agree that he is the heart of the Warrior's Defense if he was not around the Defense will surely crumble, even making play will be very difficult without him, so just like you two I really can't imagine a Warriors team without Draymond Green,
The question is, who would the Warriors acquire to replace Draymond's role? We know that Draymond is not an offensive threat, but he excels in defense and ball facilitation. What would be Curry and Thompson's reaction if Draymond were to leave? Can they still maintain their status as the Splash Brothers without a player who consistently sets screens and assists with ball handling?

However according to the betting odds from: https://www.810thespread.com/news/draymond-greens-potential-landing-spots/

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Here’s a look at the teams with the six best odds to land Green, according to the initial numbers released by DraftKings: Warriors +150, Lakers +500, Mavericks +700, Suns +800, Rockets +1500, Heat +2000.

The Warriors are still the top favorite for Draymond to land with. Smiley

Definitely a big blow to them, specially for Curry, who we can say that Green really help him to become one of the best scorer, with the screens and picks that Green have set up for him throughout their run, 4 championship.

And you can see that something is not really right from the beginning with Jordan Poole and Green as we all know that there have been issues prior to the start of the season and probably it really bite them in the ass in the playoffs and we don't know what really happens in the locker room. I also heard before that Draymond wanted to play with Lebron James if I'm not mistaken.

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June 20, 2023, 11:53:15 AM
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Well I also think that Draymond Green is a key figure for the Warrior's Success and I truly agree that he is the heart of the Warrior's Defense if he was not around the Defense will surely crumble, even making play will be very difficult without him, so just like you two I really can't imagine a Warriors team without Draymond Green,
The question is, who would the Warriors acquire to replace Draymond's role? We know that Draymond is not an offensive threat, but he excels in defense and ball facilitation. What would be Curry and Thompson's reaction if Draymond were to leave? Can they still maintain their status as the Splash Brothers without a player who consistently sets screens and assists with ball handling?

However according to the betting odds from: https://www.810thespread.com/news/draymond-greens-potential-landing-spots/

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Here’s a look at the teams with the six best odds to land Green, according to the initial numbers released by DraftKings: Warriors +150, Lakers +500, Mavericks +700, Suns +800, Rockets +1500, Heat +2000.

The Warriors are still the top favorite for Draymond to land with. Smiley

Definitely a big blow to them, specially for Curry, who we can say that Green really help him to become one of the best scorer, with the screens and picks that Green have set up for him throughout their run, 4 championship.

And you can see that something is not really right from the beginning with Jordan Poole and Green as we all know that there have been issues prior to the start of the season and probably it really bite them in the ass in the playoffs and we don't know what really happens in the locker room. I also heard before that Draymond wanted to play with Lebron James if I'm not mistaken.

Based on the betting odds, it is unlikely that Draymond Green will leave the Warriors. What I expect to happen is that Draymond will receive a bigger contract, which will motivate him to stay for more years. The "big three" consisting of Curry, Thompson, and Green will likely remain, and the team will be joined by additional role players, particularly those who will play in the center position. They can accommodate these changes by releasing Jordan Poole.
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June 20, 2023, 12:53:18 PM
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Last season before it started, it was the Boston Celtics deemed as the favorite to crown as champions and it stayed that way until the end of the regular season. I wonder which team would be favored in the next season. At the current rosters, my bet is on Denver Nuggets the defending champions, or the Phoenix Suns. With Beal, the Suns once again have 4 All-Star starters and looked stronger than the previous season.

I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams. And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
Celtics will still be up there as one of the favorites. How about taking CP3 in exchange of Smart? I think that will be a good deal for both teams since Wizards will likely let go of him anyway. Celtics will get a real point guard and a veteran at that to finally push this team. Chris Paul should have no problem in this since he'll be in a good team while Tatum and Brown will benefit from his mentorship.

That should be good if the Wizards will just accept a 1:1 trade for Marcus Smart in exchange for Chris Paul towards the Boston Celtics, but I really doubt that though because even if the latter is not the player he used to be, he still have a good figure in his head and that could really cost the Celtics some few picks or at least players just to get Chris Paul on their line up. Overall, it will be big help for the team if they are able to get CP3.


For me is a good trade if Wizard will allow that, CP3 with the duo who needs someone who can mentor them,

I mean the knowledge CP3 has can bring something that will add up with the skills of these two stars,
though just like what you mentioned, it will be depends on Wizard if they will let a 1:1 trade.

Smart is a good 2-way player who can develop good chemistry with Kuzma and Porzingis if both still have
the competitiveness inside them, I mean both Kuz and KP are great individual players,  but I don't see
any eagerness to push the team into competition.

Maybe Boston Celtics can send some more in order to acquire CP3. Maybe 1 or even 2 future 2nd round draft picks are enough? Or mix it up for some players that are unutilized. What is certain though is that Boston needs a change after its disappointing season. Nobody expected them to lose to the Miami Heat. They need an experienced proven leader like Chris Paul.

The Wizards will also benefit Smart since he is still young and it might work together with Porzingis and Kuzma. At least Smart is still tradeable in the following season the experiment fails.

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That should be good if the Wizards will just accept a 1:1 trade for Marcus Smart in exchange for Chris Paul towards the Boston Celtics, but I really doubt that though because even if the latter is not the player he used to be, he still have a good figure in his head and that could really cost the Celtics some few picks or at least players just to get Chris Paul on their line up. Overall, it will be big help for the team if they are able to get CP3.
For me is a good trade if Wizard will allow that, CP3 with the duo who needs someone who can mentor them,

I mean the knowledge CP3 has can bring something that will add up with the skills of these two stars,
though just like what you mentioned, it will be depends on Wizard if they will let a 1:1 trade.
Maybe Boston Celtics can send some more in order to acquire CP3. Maybe 1 or even 2 future 2nd round draft picks are enough?
I think 1:1 deal is enough to be honest. Marcus Smart may not be the most important piece in the Celtics roster but he has enough playoff experience and an NBA Finals. He also has the youth which is probably more important to a rebuilding team like Wizards. I like CP3 but I believe his trading value has gone down a lot. Some teams are reportedly interested in getting him so maybe Wizards could still get a couple of draft picks.

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I think Draymond declining his player option was a goodbye to the Warriors. I don’t believe they sign him to a long term deal. His tweet about taco Tuesday with LeBron leads me to believe he’ll be signing with the Lakers and with them having the same agent it works out. Not sure if an old Draymond who can’t shoot anymore is what the Lakers need, but we’ll see how good he is without the Warriors system.

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I think Draymond declining his player option was a goodbye to the Warriors. I don’t believe they sign him to a long term deal. His tweet about taco Tuesday with LeBron leads me to believe he’ll be signing with the Lakers and with them having the same agent it works out. Not sure if an old Draymond who can’t shoot anymore is what the Lakers need, but we’ll see how good he is without the Warriors system.

One of the key player for Golden State, he always was near a double double or a triple double on very important game, i know maybe in the disciplinary side he is not reliable but still a A+ player.

He was the monk in the shadows of Curry and Thompson.

I think it can be good for Lakers, they lack this kind of players.
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I think it can be good for Lakers, they lack this kind of players.
We still don't know if the guy that they really need is Draymond but I think it makes sense that he'll decline the Warriors even if they want to retain the roster that they currently have. And that is because they'll have an excess and will surpass the limit for contracts to their players. So, an excess and probably Draymond is volunteering to be the one that shall be outcasted so that no other key players that will be out of the team, or this is just simply that he wants to explore more with other teams because he's simply getting older.

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June 20, 2023, 08:11:45 PM
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I think Draymond declining his player option was a goodbye to the Warriors. I don’t believe they sign him to a long term deal. His tweet about taco Tuesday with LeBron leads me to believe he’ll be signing with the Lakers and with them having the same agent it works out. Not sure if an old Draymond who can’t shoot anymore is what the Lakers need, but we’ll see how good he is without the Warriors system.

One of the key player for Golden State, he always was near a double double or a triple double on very important game, i know maybe in the disciplinary side he is not reliable but still a A+ player.

He was the monk in the shadows of Curry and Thompson.

I think it can be good for Lakers, they lack this kind of players.

I don’t know. Draymond has great floor vision, sets great screens, and is a good defender. LeBron has great floor vision, the Lakers don’t have a guy that rolls off screens, and AD anchors the defense. I think a guy like Kevin Love who can rebound and shoot, or basically any spot up shooter along with a center that plays defense like JaVale McGee or Dwight Howard would be a better fit.

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June 20, 2023, 08:42:00 PM
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I think Draymond declining his player option was a goodbye to the Warriors. I don’t believe they sign him to a long term deal. His tweet about taco Tuesday with LeBron leads me to believe he’ll be signing with the Lakers and with them having the same agent it works out. Not sure if an old Draymond who can’t shoot anymore is what the Lakers need, but we’ll see how good he is without the Warriors system.

That's a strange decision by Green. It looks like he rejected the $27.5 million player option and plans to become an unrestricted free agent. Obviously, he is hoping that the Warriors will offer him a larger or longer-term contract, but I also don't really believe in that outcome because Green is pretty mediocre. Honestly, I don't think the Warriors should try to keep Green by spending a significant portion of the salary cap on him.

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June 20, 2023, 09:26:53 PM
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Bradley Beal went to the Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns and Washington Wizards traded.
Phoenix Suns: Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards: Chris Paul, Landry Shamet and multiple second round picks.

I think it's good for the Phoenix Suns.
Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal these three will be fun to watch.


So far the best team for Bradly Beal to join because this might be his chance to get to the NBA finals with them if they can successfully become the best trio in the league next season. Let's see who else will be traded this year because they will make some significant adjustment because they need it to beat the Denver Nuggets. especially the Western Conference teams because the scenario will most likely be the same if they don't adjust and get some strong players to help them return to the NBA playoffs to compete for the NBA championship once again.

*If those 3 can all stay on the court they will indeed be fun to watch.  They need to surround themselves with smart defensive veterans and some young guys willing to do the dirty work like get offensive boards, create turnovers etc.  I know on paper it never turns out exactly as planned but they have to be one of the frontrunner with the Nuggets next year.

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