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And I think that's is the thing, D'Lo did good during the IST tournament as far as I know, he did contribute to the offense as a guard/shooting guard with the Lakers. And so if they just keep on winning, those trade won't happen as they wanted their core to be intact.
But the problem is as we have seen, after winning why the Lakers play goes down?
Should trading their players is the real answer? Or is this another bad decision on their part again and they seems to really can't find the right players to blend with Lebron and Davis.
A good question that they need to figure it out, is it the players or the coaching personnel who always relying with LeBron? Pairing players with Both Bron and Davis should not be an issue. They both playing to compete and what they are needed is someone who can play the same level, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that the blending of players inside should be the thing that the coaching staff needs to fix. Trading though might be another option, finding players who can adds up to the level of competitiveness of Davis and LeBron someone who can give both stars some rest but still have that same level executions.
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And I think that's is the thing, D'Lo did good during the IST tournament as far as I know, he did contribute to the offense as a guard/shooting guard with the Lakers. And so if they just keep on winning, those trade won't happen as they wanted their core to be intact.
Good but not really good, he wasn't shooting well, he was just 6-15 and scored 13 points. Although in other factor which is the assist, he had 7 it's not so impressive coming from a player with good contract. What's impressive in that game was Reaves who scored 28 points, he was actually 2nd to Davis who is the top scorer that scored 41 points. But the problem is as we have seen, after winning why the Lakers play goes down?
Should trading their players is the real answer? Or is this another bad decision on their part again and they seems to really can't find the right players to blend with Lebron and Davis.
They made a good decision when they traded Westbrook, maybe this team they will still make a good one.
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The problem with all those trades is always the same, these players like Westbrook or Dangelo RUssel are gonna never find their places in teams who already have his stars, they dont feel good becoming the second guitar they only want to be the main one, and they dont like to be in the second roster, or sharing the ball in the games.
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To be fair, Lakers are not doing amazing because they are using Lebron as a scorer, not a passer. Lebron can score whenever he wants, doesn't mean that he will score 40 points per game, but he is a capable of scorer, that is not really an issue, he can have the ball, pass anytime he wants, and then score if he sees a chance for him to score.
However, he should be given the ball handling duty and he should be considering that as the most important part of this deal in the end. I believe that we are talking about a situation where it is not going to be all that easy, and we need to consider this as the most important part for him. I believe that the best thing to do right now would be making sure that they give Lebron the PG status.
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To be fair, Lakers are not doing amazing because they are using Lebron as a scorer, not a passer. Lebron can score whenever he wants, doesn't mean that he will score 40 points per game, but he is a capable of scorer, that is not really an issue, he can have the ball, pass anytime he wants, and then score if he sees a chance for him to score.
However, he should be given the ball handling duty and he should be considering that as the most important part of this deal in the end. I believe that we are talking about a situation where it is not going to be all that easy, and we need to consider this as the most important part for him. I believe that the best thing to do right now would be making sure that they give Lebron the PG status.
I saw a post on Facebook regarding this one, and I think the Lakers are putting Lebron as their starting Point Guard for the Lakers. Lebron is capable of passing like you said, and I agree with you that he needs to be more of a passer than a scorer. The problem sometimes with them is that there are times when no one can step up offensively that's why he's the one who's scoring as well aside from passing. I would love to see Lebron being a passer for the remaining of the season. I mean some of his passes are insane including the iconic no-look pass to Zubac when he's still on the Cavaliers. If what I saw is true, I think he'll be their starting PG. I don't know if how this will affect the team, but he'll be more comfortable I guess being a passer than being a scorer.
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Sga is a great young player but embid literally wins games all on his own. Not just on offense but defense too. Take embid off that Philly team and they are one of the worst in the league, keep him on and they can contend for a championship. Putting down embid and jokic in co.parison to sga is a weird angle they are all great.
We can not disagree that 3 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Joel Embiid, and Nikola Jokic were great players in this time period but we can not compare all three that they have the same greatness as everyone knows that each and everyone has their own uniqueness, and each players have their style technique and position when playing basketball, for sure they will draw from that experience and for unlike Joel Embiib and Nikola Jokic Shai Gilgious-Alexander is still a growing athlete, Nothing betrayal happen to Dray and its pure business matter since he also need to understand that what he do recently can really affect his position on GSW. And since he became a toxic member on the roster for always having a controversy then he should understand that decision like this is likely to happen. Also it make sense to GSW to have good changes and Dray and Wiggins will be a good piece for them to trade then get a good return since I think they still have a good trading value.
GSW is in bad shape so I guess there's something roster adjustment will happen to them since for sure they don't like to be on bad position which they are in trouble to get a slot on playoffs.
Even though Draymond Green was a core foundation for the Golden State Warriors he could be a potential trade in this upcoming trade window, but think about it do you think there are teams that needed the service of Draymond Green in his 33 years of age for sure Draymond Green was only useful in the Warrior Core and the Warriors is a different beast when Draymond is around, but because of the new young players of the Warriors with Trayce Jackson-Davis and Brandin Podziemski the Warriors had a new line of both offense and defense although Green Defense is essential for sure but if he is acting like that then I think the Warriors need to take a hard decision, Obviously it's not Davis, but something deep that it's hard to understand because after winning the IST, they suddenly become a garbage team. Of course there is rumor of trade of some players, but still though, they should have the momentum after winning.
But they turn into a champion into a mediocre team in an instant. For me it should be Darvin Ham's responsibility, he is the coach after all and it seems that he is not doing his job currently. Make adjustments, but he can't find the right combination.
In my opinion, the Los Angeles Lakers are not deep enough, and if something like getting injured, LeBron James and Anthony Davis are currently happening then they don't have a backup for that this is not really something surprising as the Laker's Austin Reaves is not enough D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, and Cam Reddish is not consistent enough for the Lakers, I really don't know if they are consistent in training but for sure they are not enough deep for the Lakers,
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Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and Draymond. I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.
Nothing betrayal happen to Dray and its pure business matter since he also need to understand that what he do recently can really affect his position on GSW. And since he became a toxic member on the roster for always having a controversy then he should understand that decision like this is likely to happen. Also it make sense to GSW to have good changes and Dray and Wiggins will be a good piece for them to trade then get a good return since I think they still have a good trading value. GSW is in bad shape so I guess there's something roster adjustment will happen to them since for sure they don't like to be on bad position which they are in trouble to get a slot on playoffs. Yeah, it is pure business and this how things work in the NBA. If you are not a franchise player, you'll get traded. And he's just one of the main support of the team and yet, there's the rumor that the management is willing to trade him.
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The problem with all those trades is always the same, these players like Westbrook or Dangelo RUssel are gonna never find their places in teams who already have his stars, they dont feel good becoming the second guitar they only want to be the main one, and they dont like to be in the second roster, or sharing the ball in the games.
Well, it's their choice and they have options tbh but for the sake of the team I think it really matters if you'll get along with them for years. Players these days just want to be traded along superstars but ended up as a laughingstock whenever the playoffs come because most of them just gonna choke in the end.
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The problem with all those trades is always the same, these players like Westbrook or Dangelo RUssel are gonna never find their places in teams who already have his stars, they dont feel good becoming the second guitar they only want to be the main one, and they dont like to be in the second roster, or sharing the ball in the games.
Well, it's their choice and they have options tbh but for the sake of the team I think it really matters if you'll get along with them for years. Players these days just want to be traded along superstars but ended up as a laughingstock whenever the playoffs come because most of them just gonna choke in the end. For the trade, it's beyond their control, but if they go with the team that could potentially give them a good role and score then it could be a blessing in disguise. Just like with D'Lo, when he join the Lakers there are a lot of expectations from him and he did good early. But the problem is that he is inconsistent and that's why the Lakers are looking to trade him. And we can say that to other players that are in the trading, or at least they names popping up, like Wiggins. When he join the Warriors, he was instrumental in their 4th championship, then he has problem, came back again but he was different. So his journey might end with the Warriors and maybe he can find a new team that will ignite his passion again.
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Let's try to go back in history and see this play from Kobe 01-01-2010, what's interesting is that it involved a active coach right now, Ime Udoka was fouled, go to the free throw , missed both, LA called a time out and then Kobe says, no OT for a game winner shot.
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Sga is a great young player but embid literally wins games all on his own. Not just on offense but defense too. Take embid off that Philly team and they are one of the worst in the league, keep him on and they can contend for a championship. Putting down embid and jokic in co.parison to sga is a weird angle they are all great.
We can not disagree that 3 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Joel Embiid, and Nikola Jokic were great players in this time period but we can not compare all three that they have the same greatness as everyone knows that each and everyone has their own uniqueness, and each players have their style technique and position when playing basketball, for sure they will draw from that experience and for unlike Joel Embiib and Nikola Jokic Shai Gilgious-Alexander is still a growing athlete, Nothing betrayal happen to Dray and its pure business matter since he also need to understand that what he do recently can really affect his position on GSW. And since he became a toxic member on the roster for always having a controversy then he should understand that decision like this is likely to happen. Also it make sense to GSW to have good changes and Dray and Wiggins will be a good piece for them to trade then get a good return since I think they still have a good trading value.
GSW is in bad shape so I guess there's something roster adjustment will happen to them since for sure they don't like to be on bad position which they are in trouble to get a slot on playoffs.
Even though Draymond Green was a core foundation for the Golden State Warriors he could be a potential trade in this upcoming trade window, but think about it do you think there are teams that needed the service of Draymond Green in his 33 years of age for sure Draymond Green was only useful in the Warrior Core and the Warriors is a different beast when Draymond is around, but because of the new young players of the Warriors with Trayce Jackson-Davis and Brandin Podziemski the Warriors had a new line of both offense and defense although Green Defense is essential for sure but if he is acting like that then I think the Warriors need to take a hard decision, Obviously it's not Davis, but something deep that it's hard to understand because after winning the IST, they suddenly become a garbage team. Of course there is rumor of trade of some players, but still though, they should have the momentum after winning.
But they turn into a champion into a mediocre team in an instant. For me it should be Darvin Ham's responsibility, he is the coach after all and it seems that he is not doing his job currently. Make adjustments, but he can't find the right combination.
In my opinion, the Los Angeles Lakers are not deep enough, and if something like getting injured, LeBron James and Anthony Davis are currently happening then they don't have a backup for that this is not really something surprising as the Laker's Austin Reaves is not enough D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, and Cam Reddish is not consistent enough for the Lakers, I really don't know if they are consistent in training but for sure they are not enough deep for the Lakers, I never said all 3 were great "exactly alike". The point was sga is better than embid and jokic and while that might be true in 3-5 years right now both embid and jokic are just on another level. That's not hate towards sga we are talking the last 2 mvps which were rightly won. Right now today I don't know the odds but I'd have to say sga isn't in top 5 for mvp at this point, if we are being honest sga can't touch what Luca does. I'd even go as far as saying haliburton is higher on that board than sga.
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January 02, 2024, 11:35:33 PM |
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Los Angeles Lakers, once a legendary team, are now in decline.
To be honest, most of the teams there in the NBA are legendary but every season there's a decline for each of theirs. I like what OKC is doing right now, they've got Chet and helped the team improved in the rankings. And for some individual achievement, Jordan Clarkson got a triple double for the first time and again for the Utah Jazz since 2008 with Carlos Boozer. Even though Draymond Green was a core foundation for the Golden State Warriors he could be a potential trade in this upcoming trade window, but think about it do you think there are teams that needed the service of Draymond Green in his 33 years of age for sure Draymond Green was only useful in the Warrior Core and the Warriors is a different beast when Draymond is around, but because of the new young players of the Warriors with Trayce Jackson-Davis and Brandin Podziemski the Warriors had a new line of both offense and defense although Green Defense is essential for sure but if he is acting like that then I think the Warriors need to take a hard decision,
While I think that if he's traded, there will be some teams that are interested to take him since he's from a champ team. I guess that's what will be remembered on him and not himself alone. And from being a core which only GSW sees him like that, he might just go back to being a support player if traded.
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I also believe that the Los Angeles Lakers will make it to the play-offs. The nice thing about basketball is that even if you haven't done anything during the season and get into the play-offs, you still have a chance to win the championship. When LJ and Anthony get tired, D Angelo Russel may be the player who will take the scoring load. He is both young and has a lot of energy to prove himself to be a star. I always follow the Lakers because of the king of the NBA. Almost like LeBron, I follow his team. LJ is undoubtedly the biggest legend after Jordan
I also agree with you! Well, I believe the Lakers (I also include the GSW in this list) are teams that have a reasonable regular season, but that can surprise everyone in the playoffs. LeBron James and Anthony Davis are great reference players for the LAL... D'Angelo Russell is a good player, but I don't know if he's capable of replacing AD or LJ in several games... I won't deny it, sometimes He manages to perform a good performance in some games, but I believe he still needs to improve a little bit, be more consistent to be able to improve his level as a player. He has potential for this and i have no doubt, I believe he can improve his level in the future.
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January 03, 2024, 01:25:12 AM |
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Let's try to go back in history and see this play from Kobe 01-01-2010, what's interesting is that it involved a active coach right now, ~ Ime Udoka was fouled, go to the free throw , missed both, LA called a time out and then Kobe says, no OT for a game winner shot. If Shaq had been in Udoka's shoes, he would have made those two important free throws. Well, seriously, Udoka wasn't a particularly outstanding player, and his stats, including free throw percentage, were poor throughout his entire NBA career as a player. As for Kobe, he had a lot of similar exciting moments in his career. It's a shame that the current generation of NBA players doesn't have at least one player who has the same on-court personality that Jordan and Kobe had.
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Let's try to go back in history and see this play from Kobe 01-01-2010, what's interesting is that it involved a active coach right now, ~ Ime Udoka was fouled, go to the free throw , missed both, LA called a time out and then Kobe says, no OT for a game winner shot. If Shaq had been in Udoka's shoes, he would have made those two important free throws. Well, seriously, Udoka wasn't a particularly outstanding player, and his stats, including free throw percentage, were poor throughout his entire NBA career as a player. As for Kobe, he had a lot of similar exciting moments in his career. It's a shame that the current generation of NBA players doesn't have at least one player who has the same on-court personality that Jordan and Kobe had. It's such a bad moment though for Udoka to missed those important free throws and then Kobe hitting one of his patented game winner. I know his game winner here, but I forgot the name of the player that missed that free throw and it turns out to be Udoka. As for the trade rumors, another name that pop up recently is Kyle Kuzma, but the thing is that the Wizards wanted multiple picks for him? When they just traded KP to the Celtics and I can't recall who's the player they got in this trade. And now they asking too much for a Kuzma trade.
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January 03, 2024, 04:03:54 AM |
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Ime Udoka was fouled, go to the free throw , missed both, LA called a time out and then Kobe says, no OT for a game winner shot. Damn, I really miss Kobe. He may have been a good coach in today's era if he is still with us. I mean, his work ethic is at a high level and he grinds like there's no tomorrow for him. When they just traded KP to the Celtics and I can't recall who's the player they got in this trade. And now they asking too much for a Kuzma trade.
Here's how the trade went. Celtics receive:
Kristaps Porzingis (via Wizards) No. 25 pick in 2023 Draft (via Grizzlies) 2024 first-round pick (top-four protected, via Warriors) Grizzlies receive:
Marcus Smart (via Celtics) Wizards receive:
Tyus Jones (via Grizzlies) Danilo Gallinari (via Celtics) Mike Muscala (via Celtics) No. 35 pick in 2023 Draft (via Celtics) https://www.nba.com/news/kristaps-porzingis-trade-celtics-3-team-dealIt ain't that big but I think the Wizards just want to pile up more players so they can afford a star next year by using all these popular players in their roster. If they are planning to trade Kyle Kuzma, they might get more because that player had been way better than his Lakers years. He may be inconsistent but he is young and there's a lot of room for improvement. I doubt the Wizards are aiming for the "win now" motto, they are just preparing for next year and actually, I see this as a good play. They might want a big player to pair with Jordan Poole and one way to get that is by piling more players and being ready for the trades next year. IMO, the Wizards are a selfish team right now, they need chemistry and I don't think it can be done with players who are used to isolation plays.
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January 03, 2024, 05:20:08 AM |
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Ime Udoka was fouled, go to the free throw , missed both, LA called a time out and then Kobe says, no OT for a game winner shot. Damn, I really miss Kobe. He may have been a good coach in today's era if he is still with us. I mean, his work ethic is at a high level and he grinds like there's no tomorrow for him. I see him as the 2nd GOAT, next to MJ due to his work ethic and he doesn't flop a lot unlike Lebron which sometimes called LeFlop (Sorry LA fans) Life is short, that tells what happen so we have to enjoy our life. The death of Kobe wasn't expected but his legacy will forever remain. And if we talk about the LA Lakers, one player that will come out in our mind and that is only Kobe, he is the best in LA Lakers especially for those who were able to witness the 90's era up.
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January 03, 2024, 09:56:40 AM |
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I also believe that the Los Angeles Lakers will make it to the play-offs. The nice thing about basketball is that even if you haven't done anything during the season and get into the play-offs, you still have a chance to win the championship. When LJ and Anthony get tired, D Angelo Russel may be the player who will take the scoring load. He is both young and has a lot of energy to prove himself to be a star. I always follow the Lakers because of the king of the NBA. Almost like LeBron, I follow his team. LJ is undoubtedly the biggest legend after Jordan
I also agree with you! Well, I believe the Lakers (I also include the GSW in this list) are teams that have a reasonable regular season, but that can surprise everyone in the playoffs. LeBron James and Anthony Davis are great reference players for the LAL... D'Angelo Russell is a good player, but I don't know if he's capable of replacing AD or LJ in several games... I won't deny it, sometimes He manages to perform a good performance in some games, but I believe he still needs to improve a little bit, be more consistent to be able to improve his level as a player. He has potential for this and i have no doubt, I believe he can improve his level in the future. One of the most fascinating in the NBA is watching the Lakers and the Warriors contending with a lot more youthful teams to get into the playoffs. Anyhow, given that we do not yet know when Draymond Green will return, the Lakers have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Warriors. It is uncertain for the Lakers to depend on D'Angelo Russell after Anthony Davis and Lebron James. He is an important piece of the squad but we have seen him in many games and there is no consistency. But Russell can be developed and transform himself into a better teammate.
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I also believe that the Los Angeles Lakers will make it to the play-offs. The nice thing about basketball is that even if you haven't done anything during the season and get into the play-offs, you still have a chance to win the championship. When LJ and Anthony get tired, D Angelo Russel may be the player who will take the scoring load. He is both young and has a lot of energy to prove himself to be a star. I always follow the Lakers because of the king of the NBA. Almost like LeBron, I follow his team. LJ is undoubtedly the biggest legend after Jordan
I also agree with you! Well, I believe the Lakers (I also include the GSW in this list) are teams that have a reasonable regular season, but that can surprise everyone in the playoffs. LeBron James and Anthony Davis are great reference players for the LAL... D'Angelo Russell is a good player, but I don't know if he's capable of replacing AD or LJ in several games... I won't deny it, sometimes He manages to perform a good performance in some games, but I believe he still needs to improve a little bit, be more consistent to be able to improve his level as a player. He has potential for this and i have no doubt, I believe he can improve his level in the future. One of the most fascinating in the NBA is watching the Lakers and the Warriors contending with a lot more youthful teams to get into the playoffs. Anyhow, given that we do not yet know when Draymond Green will return, the Lakers have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Warriors. Speaking of Draymond, there are reports that his future with the Warriors is bleak. Rumors has it that with his suspension, he might not get back with the team and be traded. Of course this is just a rumor for now and there are a lot of things going on behind the Warriors, like also the news of Andrew Wiggins potential trade. So we will see, although the Warriors has won in their last game, but we have seen that they have struggled. Klay Thompson is on a shooting slump and the teams are barely winning against a good team.
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January 03, 2024, 11:51:57 AM |
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One of the most fascinating in the NBA is watching the Lakers and the Warriors contending with a lot more youthful teams to get into the playoffs. Anyhow, given that we do not yet know when Draymond Green will return, the Lakers have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Warriors.
It is uncertain for the Lakers to depend on D'Angelo Russell after Anthony Davis and Lebron James. He is an important piece of the squad but we have seen him in many games and there is no consistency. But Russell can be developed and transform himself into a better teammate.
Yes, the Lakers and Warriors are experienced teams, which have quality players and stars on the team and I have no doubt that they can surprise everyone in the playoffs (as I mentioned previously). If LeBron James guide the LAL to the playoffs, AD stays healthy, D'Angelo Russell and Reaves help the rest of the team, the Lakers can easily advance in the playoffs or even reach the conference finals again. On the other hand, unlike the Warriors, who with Draymond Green's bad situation and Thompson's terrible performance, unfortunately Curry will have to work miracles to get the Warriors back on their feet again and become that dynasty they were a few seasons ago (which I think this is difficult to happen)
Changing the topic of this conversation... Since the 2021-2022 season, Lonzo Ball has been out because of an injury... recently I read some news about his possible return to the basketball courts, I would like to know if anyone has any further updates on Lonzo Ball's situation ? Is there an exact date for his return? Or are these just rumors?
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