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[Wapfika]

This just proved that Lightlord is dedicated to his marketing here in Bitcointalk with increased pay rates to motivate the participants to have a better output, we all know that having good incentives while posting here in Bitcointalk is a good motivation to post quality content, the rate is now competitive.

This improvement is good if the average campaign payout is still the same when this campaign is still active which is 60$ maximum pay for highest rank in the forum before. But right now the maximum earnings user can earn even on highest tier is just more or less 60$ for 60 post which can be earned by senior member rank with 20-25 post per week. Their current rate is still not that competitive but still it’s good that LL improve the pay rate.

I doubt this type of 60 post quota with low pay rate will improve the quality of post of participants that will max out the payment per week.

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This just proved that Lightlord is dedicated to his marketing here in Bitcointalk with increased pay rates to motivate the participants to have a better output, we all know that having good incentives while posting here in Bitcointalk is a good motivation to post quality content, the rate is now competitive.

This improvement is good if the average campaign payout is still the same when this campaign is still active which is 60$ maximum pay for highest rank in the forum before. But right now the maximum earnings user can earn even on highest tier is just more or less 60$ for 60 post which can be earned by senior member rank with 20-25 post per week. Their current rate is still not that competitive but still it’s good that LL improve the pay rate.

I doubt this type of 60 post quota with low pay rate will improve the quality of post of participants that will max out the payment per week.

Current improvement is a good start to make up for their past issues. Bitvest is one of the longest running campaign before, LL's effort to spread the good image of bitvest will all be put to waste if he didn't make a move. Right now, it's up to the signature participants if they are going to apply/accept the offered rate or not. LL at least consider increasing a little bit rate per post and continue their campaign.

Regarding the quality of posts, it's BB's job to filter each participants. Starting from selecting the participants until they do their weekly quota, all posts will be scanned to avoid spam posts.

[avp2306]

This just proved that Lightlord is dedicated to his marketing here in Bitcointalk with increased pay rates to motivate the participants to have a better output, we all know that having good incentives while posting here in Bitcointalk is a good motivation to post quality content, the rate is now competitive.

This improvement is good if the average campaign payout is still the same when this campaign is still active which is 60$ maximum pay for highest rank in the forum before. But right now the maximum earnings user can earn even on highest tier is just more or less 60$ for 60 post which can be earned by senior member rank with 20-25 post per week. Their current rate is still not that competitive but still it’s good that LL improve the pay rate.

I doubt this type of 60 post quota with low pay rate will improve the quality of post of participants that will max out the payment per week.

60 post maximum post cannot improve the participants post quality but rather it can push them to do spam post since if they are doing a regular post just like what they did on a campaign which have low post requirements then they cannot earn some decent amount. That's why quality might not be the priority of the participants but rather on how they can finish up the needed requirement maximum post to earn. But this is there campaign rules so let see here once the campaign start if we can see a massive spamming in this forum.

But I believe Cryptopreneurbrainboss is good manager and he will not tolerate his participants will post anything random just for the sake to increasing their post count.

[robelneo]

60 post maximum post cannot improve the participants post quality but rather it can push them to do spam post since if they are doing a regular post just like what they did on a campaign which have low post requirements then they cannot earn some decent amount. That's why quality might not be the priority of the participants but rather on how they can finish up the needed requirement maximum post to earn. But this is there campaign rules so let see here once the campaign start if we can see a massive spamming in this forum.

But I believe Cryptopreneurbrainboss is good manager and he will not tolerate his participants will post anything random just for the sake to increasing their post count.

Cryptopreneurbrainboss is one of the managers who know who is on his spreadsheets are worth retaining and replacing we will see in the coming weeks if there are reports of spam posts looking on a spreadsheet and the number of applicants there will be a lot of participants so Brainboss will have his hands full but as an experienced manager, I'm sure he can deliver.

It's good that Lighlord comes back to resume his Bitcointalk campaign we've been acknowledging him as a casino operator who had one of the longest campaigns, and he did the right thing coming back I read that 777Coin will follow after a few months, so let's see.

[Wapfika]

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But I believe Cryptopreneurbrainboss is good manager and he will not tolerate his participants will post anything random just for the sake to increasing their post count.

I agree on this. The concern is not about the manager handling this since post quality can’t be improve if the participants that applying are shit posters. I will not be surprised if the manager will frequently remove user on this campaign or tolerate a medium quality post just to have an active participants.

It’s very hard to find a decent poster for that pay rate while the average campaign gives that payment for a 25 post max. Even Stake that offers much higher pay per post with high post quota fails to full their campaign until now.

[aioc]

The pay rate is better now than it was before, although it's still low compared to other campaigns, the participants are assured that this is a long-term campaign which is one of the benefits, there was no escrow the last time, and it is good that Brainboss is now holding the funds and it will be top up from time to time.

The last campaign lasted 143 weeks and they always have new applicants back then, but they have more spots now I noticed on the spreadsheet, so they will not lack of posters if they take out spammers on the list.

There's a lot of improvement compared to the last campaign even if they retain the tier-based format.

[angrybirdy]

The pay rate is better now than it was before, although it's still low compared to other campaigns, the participants are assured that this is a long-term campaign which is one of the benefits, there was no escrow the last time, and it is good that Brainboss is now holding the funds and it will be top up from time to time.

The last campaign lasted 143 weeks and they always have new applicants back then, but they have more spots now I noticed on the spreadsheet, so they will not lack of posters if they take out spammers on the list.

There's a lot of improvement in pay rate compared to the last campaign even if they retain the tier-based format.

That's also the reason why I decided to join the campaign, Bitvest shows us a lot of improvement, and they also even allowed using escrow service. This will make everyone comfortable working without any worries of not getting paid. Cryptopreneurbrainboss is a respectable manager and he knows how to handle the job. He checked every participants carefully and selected the people that will promote Bitvest.

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But I believe Cryptopreneurbrainboss is good manager and he will not tolerate his participants will post anything random just for the sake to increasing their post count.

I agree on this. The concern is not about the manager handling this since post quality can’t be improve if the participants that applying are shit posters. I will not be surprised if the manager will frequently remove user on this campaign or tolerate a medium quality post just to have an active participants.

It’s very hard to find a decent poster for that pay rate while the average campaign gives that payment for a 25 post max. Even Stake that offers much higher pay per post with high post quota fails to full their campaign until now.

That is expected. Bitvest is being watch by spam busters. Cryptopreneurbrainboss already reminded us, the participants, that if ever tagged for spam, it will result to immediate removal from the campaign.

[Beparanf]

The pay rate is better now than it was before, although it's still low compared to other campaigns, the participants are assured that this is a long-term campaign which is one of the benefits, there was no escrow the last time, and it is good that Brainboss is now holding the funds and it will be top up from time to time.

Escrow funds is essential right now since the situation back then is different now. Lightlord has a very good reputation back then when the old campaign is running while the majority of his current red trust/neutral feedback is due to delay payment on the previous campaign. The owner is making everything to make this new launch possible and to get the trust of the forum.

The campaign is really designed long term since the pay rate is too small versus the amount of post the casino can get to participants.

[Stalker22]

To be honest, I was really hoping that lightlord would choose a different route this time, and go for better quality posters and more reputable members, but unfortunately he stuck with the same campaign format as before. Undoubtedly, the only members that a campaign like this will attract are shitposters from Altcoins boards and members who dont have the quality to participate in higher paying campaigns.

Increased the payments a bit, almost 60% more for Hero in Tier A, and bumped up all the other tiers about 20%-50% based upon the rank, and a rule was added in as well to encourage better quality posting for higher tier ranking.

Im all for this change - it is definitely a step in the right direction.  Even though 60 posts per week is still a lot more than most members here usually write, I bet some people will want to max out earnings by hitting that limit each week.  Hopefully the manager can handle it so your campaign doesn't end up feeling spammy.  Spam benefits no one.  But overall this is an improvement and Im glad to see it.

[Findingnemo]

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Im all for this change - it is definitely a step in the right direction.  Even though 60 posts per week is still a lot more than most members here usually write, I bet some people will want to max out earnings by hitting that limit each week.  Hopefully the manager can handle it so your campaign doesn't end up feeling spammy.  Spam benefits no one.  But overall this is an improvement and Im glad to see it.

60 posts seems a lot but there are members who post even more than that but they are not even in a campaign or in a campaign that doesn't tolerate posts made for the sake of reaching quota. But manager already warned the accepted users with

👉 To the accepted participants, this campaign is under the watch of most spam bursters therefore at all time make sure your contribution to the forum are of quality as any tag for spam will result in you been dropped,

So most likely they can't afford to spam and max out because @CryptopreneurBrainboss may hammer them with kicking out after a warning.

[sunsilk]

While I also noticed and happy to see bitvest campaign back. But this thread should serve its purpose as the thread mainly for the actual website and gambling service related to bitvest and not for its campaign.

If the discussion is all about its campaign, maybe make a new one in the service discussion or go actually to the thread on the services.

Just my two sats.

[AmoreJaz]

While I also noticed and happy to see bitvest campaign back. But this thread should serve its purpose as the thread mainly for the actual website and gambling service related to bitvest and not for its campaign.

If the discussion is all about its campaign, maybe make a new one in the service discussion or go actually to the thread on the services.

Just my two sats.

i very well agree with you. have you noticed that lightlord changed the content of the OP though? nice to see his comeback and hopefully all is well on him. great to know that this old casino is still trying to be relevant with the current demand in the online crypto market. it is one of the crypto casinos which has no license up until now and yet, they sustain their patrons on their site. this is a testament that you can still survive even without the license on your badge.

[Oilacris]

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Im all for this change - it is definitely a step in the right direction.  Even though 60 posts per week is still a lot more than most members here usually write, I bet some people will want to max out earnings by hitting that limit each week.  Hopefully the manager can handle it so your campaign doesn't end up feeling spammy.  Spam benefits no one.  But overall this is an improvement and Im glad to see it.

60 posts seems a lot but there are members who post even more than that but they are not even in a campaign or in a campaign that doesn't tolerate posts made for the sake of reaching quota. But manager already warned the accepted users with

👉 To the accepted participants, this campaign is under the watch of most spam bursters therefore at all time make sure your contribution to the forum are of quality as any tag for spam will result in you been dropped,

So most likely they can't afford to spam and max out because @CryptopreneurBrainboss may hammer them with kicking out after a warning.

Not really that bad on reaching out that maximum which you have been said that there are actually people who do make out post which is more than on the maximum. Try to look at their spreadsheet on their previous campaign for long weeks on which you've seen that there are people who do able to reach out that max post. The only difference now that it is really that been handled by a good manager on which he's really that serious when it comes to post quality on which it would really be totally different this time and as for participants then they should really be careful because once caught then you would surely be dropped by the campaign.

Getting in with signature campaigns that pays Bitcoin or usdt is really that hard nowadays and this is why even if the campaign payment is somewhat low that on the usual
but there are really that tons of people who are really that interesting on joining the campaign without minding about the payrate but rather they would really be
coming after for the longetivity or long term for this one on which it is somewhat that reassuring.

[Ojima-ojo]

This just proved that Lightlord is dedicated to his marketing here in Bitcointalk with increased pay rates to motivate the participants to have a better output, we all know that having good incentives while posting here in Bitcointalk is a good motivation to post quality content, the rate is now competitive.

This improvement is good if the average campaign payout is still the same when this campaign is still active which is 60$ maximum pay for highest rank in the forum before. But right now the maximum earnings user can earn even on highest tier is just more or less 60$ for 60 post which can be earned by senior member rank with 20-25 post per week. Their current rate is still not that competitive but still it’s good that LL improve the pay rate.

I doubt this type of 60 post quota with low pay rate will improve the quality of post of participants that will max out the payment per week.

You guys made good point as regards to the campaign payment and what is currently sustainable in the forum that could motivate quality posters into enrolling into this campaign,  but then also we have to know one thing which is that, according to history, this campaign have been arohnd for a long time before the year long break by the CEO lightlord and since then this incident raised alot of discussions from various quarter without any response from lightlord up untill now.


So for the sake of visibility and affordable promotions, lightlord have chose to maintain the old pay rate even though things have changed alot around the forum as regards to signature payment,  but then the badside of this is that only inactive accounts may enroll in the signature,  but if they be able to bring back Bitvest lost glory then so be it.

[pawel7777]

Good thing if you do able to place yourself on top but still not that able to cope up or getting in line with those standard payment rates that we do have today in the forum. Even seeing on that Hero/Legendary Tier 1 would really be just giving you that 200k sats maximum.

Even in the top-tier and including bonus payment, you can earn max of around $60/per week and that's for making 60 posts. The "standard" payment in other campaigns is ~$100/week for 20-30 posts, for hero/legendary ranks. The difference is huge and I don't think they'll be able to attract any quality posters.
Sure, you can still get good add exposure by paying peanuts, but that can backfire badly, as low payments + high amount of max paid posts encourage spam and nonsense posts. So there's a risk the community will lash out at advertisers and blame them for polluting the forum. And being a crypto-casino that operates on high trust, you really need a spotless reputation.

[carlfebz2]

Even in the top-tier and including bonus payment, you can earn max of around $60/per week and that's for making 60 posts. The "standard" payment in other campaigns is ~$100/week for 20-30 posts, for hero/legendary ranks. The difference is huge and I don't think they'll be able to attract any quality posters.
Sure, you can still get good add exposure by paying peanuts, but that can backfire badly, as low payments + high amount of max paid posts encourage spam and nonsense posts. So there's a risk the community will lash out at advertisers and blame them for polluting the forum. And being a crypto-casino that operates on high trust, you really need a spotless reputation.

You are right on which making up some calculations which you would really be getting $60 for max 60 post per week as for users need to max it out on getting that maximum payment on which it would really be definitely be causing up that spam knowing that 60 post is really just that too much honestly but they did really stick into their standard or casual payrates and campaign rules and terms.For those quality posters then they wont really be that interested on joining on this one but for those posters who do really just agree with peanuts then this wont really be a problem as long they would be having a campaign.
The new manager that handling out this campaign is known on being that choosing about best posters but i doubt that the standard he would set might be lower as for the payrates arent really that high
or something that justifies on the amount post required. So quality would really be not as good to those good paying campaign but well it is on someones choice.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Good thing if you do able to place yourself on top but still not that able to cope up or getting in line with those standard payment rates that we do have today in the forum. Even seeing on that Hero/Legendary Tier 1 would really be just giving you that 200k sats maximum.

Even in the top-tier and including bonus payment, you can earn max of around $60/per week and that's for making 60 posts. The "standard" payment in other campaigns is ~$100/week for 20-30 posts, for hero/legendary ranks. The difference is huge and I don't think they'll be able to attract any quality posters.
Sure, you can still get good add exposure by paying peanuts, but that can backfire badly, as low payments + high amount of max paid posts encourage spam and nonsense posts. So there's a risk the community will lash out at advertisers and blame them for polluting the forum. And being a crypto-casino that operates on high trust, you really need a spotless reputation.

Well, sure you are right, but everything still falls in the hands of the manager, i think it is his duty to make sure that everyone in the campaign is making good enough to quality posts as you have said regardless of what ever amount of money is being paid, the only thing i see here is that, with the low payrate, the job is sure harder for him to do, But i personally trust Cryptoprenuerbrainboss and know that he will deliver a good marketing services to Bitvest.

Besides, this is not the first the first advertising campaign Bitvest is running on the forum with this strategy, this was their strategy in their first version of the campaign, and they did not have any issues i know of back then, so, if they ran the campaign with this same low payrate successfully in the past, I do not see why it won't be also successful this time as well, all that is required is for the manager to work.

[Beparanf]

Well, sure you are right, but everything still falls in the hands of the manager, i think it is his duty to make sure that everyone in the campaign is making good enough to quality posts as you have said regardless of what ever amount of money is being paid, the only thing i see here is that, with the low payrate, the job is sure harder for him to do, But i personally trust Cryptoprenuerbrainboss and know that he will deliver a good marketing services to Bitvest.

There’s no question about the integrity of campaign manager on handling the spammer. The problem is the user can already spam the forum before the manager can act since all post can only be reviewed once the week is already finished except if the manager will monitor the post of participants per day and kick them instantly then this can be solved properly.

I hope for a better outcome of this campaign or an adjustment in the future. Most important is this OG casino when I’m still new here is already back in the business.

Wish you all the best @lightlord.

[slaman29]

First of all, good to see you back Lightlord, I'm Bitvest user since 2017, investor and gambler I might restart my adventures on plinko there (my biggest loss maker lol).

I think the problem, as also a former campaign participant, is the quality of the posters in the past and the lack of actual GAMBLERS. I find it so sad really that the entire new posts made in the last page and even before that are all talking about the campaign and payment. That is even the majority of trust feedback for this OP.

I hate to see this really. All these sig hunters bring the business down because they don't even gamble, or know what the site offers, how they can even promote gambling or bring the reputation up?

I think Cryptopreneurbrainboss should set min BV level to 2 or even 3. Give them time to gain it. After all payments sent to BV account means easy to get those levels in a few minutes.

[Richbased]

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But I believe Cryptopreneurbrainboss is good manager and he will not tolerate his participants will post anything random just for the sake to increasing their post count.

I agree on this. The concern is not about the manager handling this since post quality can’t be improve if the participants that applying are shit posters. I will not be surprised if the manager will frequently remove user on this campaign or tolerate a medium quality post just to have an active participants.

It’s very hard to find a decent poster for that pay rate while the average campaign gives that payment for a 25 post max. Even Stake that offers much higher pay per post with high post quota fails to full their campaign until now.

In as much as I know that cryptopreneurbrainboss is someone that give fair verdict in his campaign, this credit can be confirmed in his trust feedback.

I believe that shit posters or low quality posters will be removed from this campaign as cryptopreneurbrainsboss is of reputable character and would not allow anything that will jeopardize his managerial role in the course of this campaign