Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time)

[midmir]

Imho this is not Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi would not act like this.

When/if he decides to reveal his identity there will be no doubts about.

Please God, let Satoshi Nakamoto be alive and healthy.

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[chek2fire]

One more time

[bitcoin-dev] Not this again.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011936.html

[Marbit]

I'm not 100% convinced yet, but there is enough circumstantial evidence to consider the possibility.

I think even if he would step up and say "I'm Satoshi Nakamoto", a lot of Bitcoiners wouldn't believe it.

Furthermore, some may see him as a threat. In the few years Bitcoin exists, some Bitcoiners took Satoshi's paper as some kind of techno-bible: "But Satoshi wrote..." Just imagine how their world may shake if Craig Steven Wright could say something differing from what's in the paper...

But most of all: Funny how Michele Seven would have made a fool out of herself...

Hahaha, I agree. Satoshi has become more than a person, and as much as his identity is a mystery, it'd be hard for anyone to digest if any person were to claim or prove to be satoshi, because people can be a disappointment when you know them in real life, maybe he's better of as a mystery, makes him loved and respected for eternity.

[anthonycamp]

do we guys need to know oe million guy theres osme not need to know identety i mean you dont know who invented money from a holed whell stone and after that by intelegence we do stil use digital good as money and we dont question who as been the real creator of thhis whell money

[MelMan2002]

One more time

[bitcoin-dev] Not this again.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011936.html

 

Wait...

We are all Satoshi.

If only I had known

[vilain]

Wright it obvious that is simple a scammer.

Why do you think that? Aren't Wired evidences good?

[Gatekeeper]

I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.

[repentance]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/revealed-the-ato-hit-suspected-bitcoin-creator-craig-steven-wrights-company-with-a-1-7-million-penalty-2015-12

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-australian-who-may-have-invented-bitcoin-claimed-to-have-landed-54m-in-taxpayer-funded-rebates-2015-12

Tax fraud on the scale alleged is going to court.  There are no two ways about that.

Through those proceedings, a lot more information about Wright will eventually become public.  Typically, though, such proceedings take years.

Whether or not Wright is Satoshi is irrelevant to the tax case but the tax case may ultimately reveal the answer to whether or nor Wright was involved in the early development of Bitcoin.

It will be interesting to see where the seized evidence leads.  Wright is interesting not for the possibility that he may be Satoshi, but because this could be the first Australian case of substantial tax evasion, money laundering, and fraud in which Bitcoin is central rather than incidental.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

like a retard, I posted my opinion before actually reading the article, and now after doing so I think they have a very good argument that they found him. It should be interesting what develops, and I'll keep following this thread.

[Gleb Gamow]

One more time

[bitcoin-dev] Not this again.

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011936.html

 

Wait...

We are all Satoshi.

If only I had known

Capt. Benjamin Franklin "Hawkeye" Pierce: We can all be comforted by the thought that he's not really gone, there's a little Tuttle left in all of us, in fact you might say that all of us together made up Tuttle.

TuttleCoin, anyone?

[Gleb Gamow]

I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.

Not Dave Kleiman's father, but brother, Ira Kleiman.

Also, Craig Wright penned papers with Dave Kleiman up to at least 2008. What I've been able to uncover is that Craig had no public mentions of Bitcoin prior to 2013 that are legitimately documented.

[Gleb Gamow]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/revealed-the-ato-hit-suspected-bitcoin-creator-craig-steven-wrights-company-with-a-1-7-million-penalty-2015-12

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-australian-who-may-have-invented-bitcoin-claimed-to-have-landed-54m-in-taxpayer-funded-rebates-2015-12

Tax fraud on the scale alleged is going to court.  There are no two ways about that.

Through those proceedings, a lot more information about Wright will eventually become public.  Typically, though, such proceedings take years.

Whether or not Wright is Satoshi is irrelevant to the tax case but the tax case may ultimately reveal the answer to whether or nor Wright was involved in the early development of Bitcoin.

It will be interesting to see where the seized evidence leads.  Wright is interesting not for the possibility that he may be Satoshi, but because this could be the first Australian case of substantial tax evasion, money laundering, and fraud in which Bitcoin is central rather than incidental.

Craig Wright and wife, Romona Watts, with possibly their children, are now residing in the UK.

[Gleb Gamow]

like a retard, I posted my opinion before actually reading the article, and now after doing so I think they have a very good argument that they found him. It should be interesting what develops, and I'll keep following this thread.

Unlike a retard, I firmly believe your BCT's pseudonym has been spiking your purchases. It should be interesting to see what develops in your subsequent postings as we'll continue to follow your progress.

[tyz]

The story is the most convincing one of Satoshi's identity so far, but there are still some flaws and open questions which should be answered first.

Would bet all my Bitcoins that he is not Satoshi

[repentance]

Craig Wright and wife, Romona Watts, with possibly their children, are now residing in the UK.

So?  Paul Hogan has lived in the US forever but there was still a high profile court action against him by the ATO which lasted for years.

The UK isn't a barrier to either administrative or criminal action against Wright, and he clearly still has assets in Australia.  The UK will extradite, and if Wright is on an Australian passport he's kind of screwed because it can be easily frozen in the event of insolvency and/or criminal charges.

The ATO has considerable coercive powers, as does AUSTRAC.

[badgerkiller]

I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.

There is one major flaw in your theory.  If Kleiman is indeed Satoshi and he died in 2013, how did he pen the "I am not Dorian" post?

[tyz]

This is a really interesting question. Have been any logic answer or good explanation given yet? The question is, who invited him to this conference, so this person should know that he has something to do with Bitcoin.

Now we have to wait and see if this will be another story of Dorian Nakomoto. We still have not enough hard evidence pointing towards Wright.
His background is one thing but so they said about Dorian. But I gotta say that all facts presented by Wired seems pretty convincing so far.

One question which is yet unanswered: Nobody seems to have known him, but nevertheless, he was invited to the Vegas-conference. Why? Why was he invited, when the other participant's socks were of more interest to Michele?

[Lauda]

I would highly appreciate it if OP closed this thread. It's been proven that he's nothing more than a fraud. We're probably going to see a lot of similar stories in the future (we've had some in the past). It's not worth discussing it further.

[Blinken]

Anybody that thinks a egotistical, self-promoting, no-nothing loser like Craig Wright is Satoishi is an idiot. The guy is an Australian for heaven's sake. Australia? Remember? The country with the rabbit-proof fence? They are idiots. Craig Wright can't even program his VCR, forget about computers.

[Gleb Gamow]

I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.

There is one major flaw in your theory.  If Kleiman is indeed Satoshi and he died in 2013, how did he pen the "I am not Dorian" post?

Junkies down in Brooklyn are going crazy
They're laughing just like hungry dogs in the street
Policemen are hiding behind the skirts of little girls
Their eyes have turned the color of frozen meat

No, no no no, no no no no no no no no,
Satoshi Nakamoto has risen from the grave
Satoshi Nakamoto has risen from the grave