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May 25, 2016, 12:25:21 PM
Last edit: May 25, 2016, 02:33:30 PM by pokeytex
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I created a bitstream for the ZTEX 1.15y board and want to share it with the decred community.  If you have a ZTEX 1.15y board, you should be able to mine DCR using this modified cgminer and bitstream.

I have put the bitstream at the following link.  It gets about 800Mh/s.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1d12ixhfthj0y7/ztex_ufm1_15y1.bit?dl=0

The cgminer is located at the following link:

    https://github.com/sprocket-fpga/cgminer_3.7.2_ztex

Below are the steps I used to modify Decred cgminer 0.0.5 to run on my Raspberry Pi.

    1) sudo apt-get update
    2) sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0-0-dev libusb-1.0-0 libcurl4-openssl-dev libncurses5-dev libudev-dev screen libtool automake pkg-config libjansson-dev
    3) git clone https://github.com/decred/cgminer
    4) cd cgminer
    5) sudo ./autogen.sh
    6) sudo ./configure --disable-adl --enable-icarus
    7) copy .c and .h files to cgminer directory
    8 ) copy .bit to cgminer\bitstreams
    9) sudo make
    10) Command Line: cgminer --disable-gpu --blake256 -o < url:port > -u < username > -p < password > --ztex-clock 100:100

Note: This miner only works on Getwork pools. It does not have the Stratum logic incorporated yet.

Open Issue: This miner seems to work fine for up to 4 ztex boards. More than 4 boards is causing the cgminer to crash after 10 minutes.  If you have any ideas how to fix this issue, please PM me.

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If you find this miner useful, please feel free to leave a tip:

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@sprocket_fpga - thank you for this bitstream and guide.  I recently acquired (20) ztex clones and have ( 8 ) of the (20) running on your bitstream with great success.  I am waiting on fans and hubs to get the other (12) up and running.  I sent you a little of my DCR change as a thank you.  Most appreciated.


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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

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May 25, 2016, 05:14:58 PM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

From what I understand, it's quite a bit different that regular POS systems.

"Staking in Decred works in a similar way to a lottery, you purchase tickets with the available DCR coins you have or the amount you want to use. Ticket price started at 2 DCR and it changes based on users staking, though it is currently pretty high priced at about 14 DCR, so you might want to carefully choose the timing when to purchase tickets. Then you need wait for your ticket to be randomly chosen to validate a block or to be taken out of the lottery in 142 days if you do not win anything. The coins you use for staking (purchasing tickets for the lottery) will be locked until they are either chosen and you get your staking reward or 142 days pass . According to the information available the lottery lasts about 28 days average and the chance of a ticket not being selected in 142 days are less than 1%, but since it is all luck based your results may vary."

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/decred-pos/
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

From what I understand, it's quite a bit different that regular POS systems.

"Staking in Decred works in a similar way to a lottery, you purchase tickets with the available DCR coins you have or the amount you want to use. Ticket price started at 2 DCR and it changes based on users staking, though it is currently pretty high priced at about 14 DCR, so you might want to carefully choose the timing when to purchase tickets. Then you need wait for your ticket to be randomly chosen to validate a block or to be taken out of the lottery in 142 days if you do not win anything. The coins you use for staking (purchasing tickets for the lottery) will be locked until they are either chosen and you get your staking reward or 142 days pass . According to the information available the lottery lasts about 28 days average and the chance of a ticket not being selected in 142 days are less than 1%, but since it is all luck based your results may vary."

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/decred-pos/

Sure,
but even based purely on luck there is obviously a median and mid sum and %

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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

i have done a simple math in the past about this, and it was 0.03 btc per day with 1k decred staking, however this was when decred was at 0.005 btc
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May 25, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

i have done a simple math in the past about this, and it was 0.03 btc per day with 1k decred staking, however this was when decred was at 0.005 btc

and now with POS pools diff will be higher.

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May 25, 2016, 05:32:25 PM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

i have done a simple math in the past about this, and it was 0.03 btc per day with 1k decred staking, however this was when decred was at 0.005 btc

and now with POS pools diff will be higher.

So any educated guesses for current? Considering buying some and staking.

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May 25, 2016, 06:41:11 PM
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DCRstats.com shows current ticket price (difficulty) as well as current block rewards, etc.

At current ticket price of 17.4 DCR and voting reward of 1.7809 per ticket, you would currently earn on average 10.24% compounding return on your DCR funds every 28 days (approximately).  With 1000 DCR, you could purchase 57.5 tickets and earn 102.40 DCR in roughly 28 days.  Note, like PoW mining there is variance, some tickets might be chosen to vote in an hour, some in 3 months.  The more tickets you have, the less variance you'll see.

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May 25, 2016, 08:13:33 PM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

It depends on the amount you paid for the ticket
Last week I bought 63 tickets with 1000 DCR.
63 X 1.8 (ticket reward) = 113.4
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May 26, 2016, 04:09:22 AM
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Two additional stake pools are ready to support the network! Check out pool.d3c.red and stakepool.dcrstats.com. You can also look at their dedicated threads on the forum (pool.d3c.red and dcr.stakepool.net). OP text has been updated with links to these stake pools.
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dev when gui wallet coming.

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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

i have done a simple math in the past about this, and it was 0.03 btc per day with 1k decred staking, however this was when decred was at 0.005 btc

and now with POS pools diff will be higher.

yes my math was based on 10-20 decred as the amount needed to buy a ticket, now it's 30 or more

How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

i have done a simple math in the past about this, and it was 0.03 btc per day with 1k decred staking, however this was when decred was at 0.005 btc

and now with POS pools diff will be higher.

So any educated guesses for current? Considering buying some and staking.

1000 decred give you around 20-25 ticket, let's assume 25 ticket

each ticket can give you 1.8 decred on a average 28 days, so around 0.15 per month

before the price was 10-20 so it was double of this, and the value was almost double, so the result was 4x, so around 0.6 per month, which was really good for a pos coin
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May 26, 2016, 08:17:27 AM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?
I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?
Simplified calculation - ideal conditions:
you have: 1000dcr
price per ticket (retargets every 144 blocks==roughly every 12hrs) - example: 14.8dcr/ticket + ticketfee (0.01) + txfee (0.01) = 15dcr/ticket
you can buy: 1000/15 == 66 tickets
POS reward per ticket: 1.78drc
So per 66 tickets you may get max. 66 x 1.78 == 117drc, at current price of 0,00305dcr/btc you may gain roughly 0.35btc. The soonest all your tickets can vote is around 28 days.

The process:
You buy tickets. Tickets will be moved to mempool. From the mempool POW miners will mine max. 20 tickets per block. If your ticket tx (sstx) gets mined and included in the block while the price of tickets you've paid lasts (remember it changes every 144 blocks), your ticket changes status to "immature". It will sit in the blockchain for 256 blocks (roughly 24hrs) before it can vote. After 24hrs, ticket changes status to "live" and from that moment can be selected to vote. Once that happens, you will get back price you have paid for the ticket + reward (1.78drc/ticket recently). So per ticket (bought for 15dcr), your reward will be around 11% per ticket.
Tickets are choosen to vote randomly. If the ticket is not selected to vote in roughly 140 days, it will get revoked and price you've paid will be returned minus tx fee.

The reality:
1. Price of tickets changes every roughly 12hrs + price of ticket reward every +-20days. Obviously, you want to buy at cheapest price possible to booster your gains. You can keep an eye on stats on Dyrk's https://dcrstats.com. As it stands now, ticket price swings from low (below 20dcr/ticket) to highs every roughly 3 days. So it is best to watch the swing and once you see wildly high price to get ready to buy on next retarget. Once price is too high nobody will buy tickets in that 144 blocks period, so the diff will swing down wildly, usually below 15drc/ticket (see POS historical price change graph on Dyrk's dcrstats page).
2. Expect 5-10% of your live tickets to not vote (either because they get revoked, missed or just expire)
3. To keep steady reward income from POS, you need to smoothen the variance by constantly adding to your live tickets pool. Which means you have to buy and rebuy once in a while when the ticket price is low to keep your percentage share in stakepool at +-constant level. E.g.:
StakePool size now (total live tickets num.) is roughly: 42300tickets
So if you want to calculate how much you might get per month for 1000dcr, you would go like this:
Max. tickets that can vote per 24hrs: 12*24*5 == 1440 votes
Max reward per 24hrs from POS: 1440 x 1.78dcr == 2563dcr
If you have initially bought 66 tickets at 15dcr using those 1000dcr == you now hold 66/42300 == 0.15% of the whole stakepool. So you may expect around 0.15%*daily POS reward (2563dcr) == 3.8dcr/day (or around 3.8/1.78 == 2 tickets per day will vote). But to smoothen the variance and get steady rewards, you need to maintain this share of stakepool. Stakepool size keeps changing (up or down) during ticket price retargets based on interest of people buying tickets. So my advice is get additional 500dcr, buy on low ticket price using your 1000dcr and then keep rebuying additional tickets on low price during the month using those 500dcr to keep your share in the stakepool. If you maintain the share, then the calculations might be good. Otherwise, it is mostly guesswork Smiley

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May 26, 2016, 09:24:01 AM
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How many coins, from POS, I can reciece  with 1000 coins?

I am also interested in this. What's the daily/weekly/monthly POS payout per say 1000 DCR?

From what I understand, it's quite a bit different that regular POS systems.

"Staking in Decred works in a similar way to a lottery, you purchase tickets with the available DCR coins you have or the amount you want to use. Ticket price started at 2 DCR and it changes based on users staking, though it is currently pretty high priced at about 14 DCR, so you might want to carefully choose the timing when to purchase tickets. Then you need wait for your ticket to be randomly chosen to validate a block or to be taken out of the lottery in 142 days if you do not win anything. The coins you use for staking (purchasing tickets for the lottery) will be locked until they are either chosen and you get your staking reward or 142 days pass . According to the information available the lottery lasts about 28 days average and the chance of a ticket not being selected in 142 days are less than 1%, but since it is all luck based your results may vary."

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/decred-pos/

Do I understand it correct? If I buy a ticket, I'll have to wait 142 days, to get my coins back?

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May 26, 2016, 10:28:54 AM
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Voting is like a lottery. There is no fixed time.
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May 26, 2016, 11:30:32 AM
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$1.29, is this a new low?
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May 26, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
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These coin is very strange I had lost 5 btc I buy it at 2.5 and now is 1.5
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These coin is very strange I had lost 5 btc I buy it at 2.5 and now is 1.5

But that's not very strange... all coins do that mate.
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May 26, 2016, 04:07:37 PM
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These coin is very strange I had lost 5 btc I buy it at 2.5 and now is 1.5

But that's not very strange... all coins do that mate.
Invest for the long term
I think this coin will take 1 year before we really see its potential


I believe the same, Decred is a great coin and technic. Staking long-term and waiting for success =)
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