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May 19, 2016, 04:43:06 PM
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In the first place, I think you should correctly identify the community....Muslims, not muslems.  Gosh the spelling on this forum is atrocious. 
Secondly, why oh why are you inflaming hatred and distrust by asking the question?   Muslims are a diverse community not one monolithic entity.   The basic tenets of Islam are positive (just like Christianity),  but just like Christianity, extremists distort the basic religious ideas and create hatred, death and destruction.   

No, I don't hate Muslims....and I am saddened by the hatred and death caused by both "anti" Muslim and extremist islamicists.

Bolded section above, there is a debate on this issue which is a realistic and valid debate.

Is it "just like Christianity?"

Is it "extremists?"

Is it explained as a "diverse community?"


So please don't pander to the Politically Correctness by accusing anyone of "inflaming hatred and distrust."  That's wasting everyone's time, given that in the Real World...here's the latest ALLAH ACKBAR -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598117/EgyptAir-flight-MS804-Paris-Cairo-goes-missing.html

Debris from EgyptAir jet is discovered off Greek island after it is revealed the plane went into a 'sharp spin' and fell 22,000ft before vanishing from radar in what was 'almost certainly a terror attack'
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May 19, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
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Human beings need to be respected. None should be discriminated in terms of religion or any other activities. I give respect to each and everyone unlike their status and religion.

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May 21, 2016, 01:01:09 AM
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I'm a Christian ( orthodox Christian) and my faith doesn't allow me to hate other people!
There was only war between humans even if they were (are) Christians Muslim Atheists Jew Pagan etc...

About atheists, how many people (most of them were Christians) were killed by Marxism ideas? Do you know?

About of those who are talking about ISIS terrorism etc, you ever read the Quran? Huh?

What about kamikaze pilots ? were they Muslims ? ( don't worry I know most everything about Bushido Code)

 The People are talking before to think ...

BTW for those who  don't know , the term of terrorism was born in France ( during French revolution)

Anybody knows what horrible things happened there? How many people were killed by revolutionaries? How many atrocities were committed?

The atheism, socialism, secularism was based on French Revolution and from there was inspired Marx. Freemasons ?

So don't try  to blame any religions for war and crimes.

I'm so sad when I see how easily atheists are manipulated.
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May 21, 2016, 02:37:35 AM
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I'm a Christian ( orthodox Christian) and my faith doesn't allow me to hate other people!
There was only war between humans even if they were (are) Christians Muslim Atheists Jew Pagan etc...

About atheists, how many people (most of them were Christians) were killed by Marxism ideas? Do you know?

About of those who are talking about ISIS terrorism etc, you ever read the Quran? Huh?

What about kamikaze pilots ? were they Muslims ? ( don't worry I know most everything about Bushido Code)

 The People are talking before to think ...

BTW for those who  don't know , the term of terrorism was born in France ( during French revolution)

Anybody knows what horrible things happened there? How many people were killed by revolutionaries? How many atrocities were committed?

The atheism, socialism, secularism was based on French Revolution and from there was inspired Marx. Freemasons ?

So don't try  to blame any religions for war and crimes.

I'm so sad when I see how easily atheists are manipulated.
Well, that's a genuinely interesting set of random facts.

It doesn't all together make a logical argument, but I get what you are trying to say.  You'd like to separate the intent and actions of man from the religion.  Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well.  It leads to something like saying that "some CULTURES may be blamed, within them resides religion XYZ, but the RELIGION cannot be blamed."

That can be deconstructed further by looking at the inter relationships of culture and religion.  In a really practical sense, though, I have a problem with smooth talking, glib persons trying to misrepresent facts and actions.

My question to you is very simple.  If some person kills himself and a dozen others while shouting Allah Akbar, and making in his suicide video a profession of faith to Islam, and says explicitly he is doing this for Islam...

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES?  Are you someone who is smarter?  Better educated?  More sophisticated?  Been around the world more, seen more cultures?

Thanks.  That's my question, and I would hope that you could answer it without the condescending tone.
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May 21, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
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I'm a Christian ( orthodox Christian) and my faith doesn't allow me to hate other people!
There was only war between humans even if they were (are) Christians Muslim Atheists Jew Pagan etc...

About atheists, how many people (most of them were Christians) were killed by Marxism ideas? Do you know?

About of those who are talking about ISIS terrorism etc, you ever read the Quran? Huh?

What about kamikaze pilots ? were they Muslims ? ( don't worry I know most everything about Bushido Code)

 The People are talking before to think ...

BTW for those who  don't know , the term of terrorism was born in France ( during French revolution)

Anybody knows what horrible things happened there? How many people were killed by revolutionaries? How many atrocities were committed?

The atheism, socialism, secularism was based on French Revolution and from there was inspired Marx. Freemasons ?

So don't try  to blame any religions for war and crimes.

I'm so sad when I see how easily atheists are manipulated.
Well, that's a genuinely interesting set of random facts.

It doesn't all together make a logical argument, but I get what you are trying to say.  You'd like to separate the intent and actions of man from the religion.  Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well.  It leads to something like saying that "some CULTURES may be blamed, within them resides religion XYZ, but the RELIGION cannot be blamed."

That can be deconstructed further by looking at the inter relationships of culture and religion.  In a really practical sense, though, I have a problem with smooth talking, glib persons trying to misrepresent facts and actions.

My question to you is very simple.  If some person kills himself and a dozen others while shouting Allah Akbar, and making in his suicide video a profession of faith to Islam, and says explicitly he is doing this for Islam...

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES?  Are you someone who is smarter?  Better educated?  More sophisticated?  Been around the world more, seen more cultures?

Thanks.  That's my question, and I would hope that you could answer it without the condescending tone.
Well you answered with another questions. That's not smart...but that is not my problem.

"some CULTURES may be blamed, within them resides religion XYZ, but the RELIGION cannot be blamed." nonsense!
Don't mix culture with faith.

"My question to you is very simple.  If some person kills himself and a dozen others while shouting Allah Akbar, and making in his suicide video a profession of faith to Islam, and says explicitly he is doing this for Islam..."

When soldiers shoot people in the name of  peace they represent "religion" of peace?
You're talking about things that others have taught you, but in your limitation you think that you are authonom, that's a fatal mistake.
Probably you are a kid. What about Marxism propaganda? " only the strong should live, the  weak must die"  or "only the violence can change something" ( inspired from the French Revolution) The Bolshevism ( Marxism-judaism-atheism) killed more then 55 million  people BUT I DONT BLAME TORA !!! Because I have read Tora, there is nothing about "to kill" others people in the name of God.

Did you ever spoke with a muslim about Islam religion? I did!
ISIS don't represent ISLAM ( don't forget I'm Christian)

You as atheist ( even if you like it or not) must believe in Darwinism so think that ! Animals!
Animals have no conscience. No Morality . Without a SUPREME AUTHORITY even humans, don't respect any morality.

Don't mix intelligence with wisdom! Hitler was intelligent not wisdom .. maybe even you are intelligent but certainly not wisdom!

" WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES?  Are you someone who is smarter?  Better educated?  More sophisticated?  Been around the world more, seen more cultures?"

Well.. Let's admit there are no levels, but you consider that religious people are stupid ( atheism ideas) Upss .. Logic?
That is what you (and atheists as you) don't understand. Without a Supreme Authority  we are acting like animals ! ( of course you are an animal, and don't be offended  ,  atheism it says ) You think that you are free .. No you are not free, you are manipulated by Marxism and others.

And btw what it have to do those things with morality? Another nonsense.
Vikings believed they had morality.. or maya , romans bla bla  ( if you are speaking about cultural differences )
Kant never went from Konigsberg. 


"" WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES? "
 
Your tone represent verbal violence ( aggressive ) 

The war has no religion. Atheism has no GOD.
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May 21, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
 #126

What the heck is this question/topic about?

You should not hate any humans regardless of they race/religion.

And it's not because you are muslem that you are bad you can not just put all them in 1 pot, you not select what will be your race/relegion before you are born  Roll Eyes
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May 21, 2016, 01:10:50 PM
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Stop trying to compare religion to race, one is an ideology, the other is genetics and you most certainly do choose your ideology unless you've been brainwashed into it.
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May 22, 2016, 03:21:00 AM
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Stop trying to compare religion to race, one is an ideology, the other is genetics and you most certainly do choose your ideology unless you've been brainwashed into it.
"Great advice" from you. This is why I'm not an atheist.
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May 22, 2016, 06:58:09 AM
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We should hate no one
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May 22, 2016, 01:18:26 PM
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" WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES?  Are you someone who is smarter?  Better educated?  More sophisticated?  Been around the world more, seen more cultures?"

Well.. Let's admit there are no levels, but you consider that religious people are stupid ( atheism ideas) Upss .. Logic?
That is what you (and atheists as you) don't understand. .....


"" WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THINK YOU KNOW BETTER WHY HE IS DOING WHAT HE DOES? "
 

Your tone represent verbal violence ( aggressive ) 

The war has no religion. Atheism has no GOD.

I've posed a serious question.  You have attempted to move it to the subject of atheism.  The question remains UNANSWERED.
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May 22, 2016, 01:21:50 PM
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Stop trying to compare religion to race, one is an ideology, the other is genetics and you most certainly do choose your ideology unless you've been brainwashed into it.
"Great advice" from you. This is why I'm not an atheist.

What does that even mean? Is that supposed to be some kind of one liner comeback to make yourself look clever? Unfortunately ignoring basic dictionary definitions of words just because it doesn't fit your narrative of everybody who disagrees with Islam is a racist only makes you look more and more stupid.
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May 22, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
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What the heck is this question/topic about?

You should not hate any humans regardless of they race/religion.

And it's not because you are muslem that you are bad you can not just put all them in 1 pot, you not select what will be your race/relegion before you are born  Roll Eyes

I agree with you.
We should judge people based on their character, no based on religion, race, nationality, sex etc.
Yes, I hate terrorist and hate evil but have respect to many good Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Atheists in the world...
In the past we had also terrorists who was Christians, Buddhists, Atheist etc. but we don't hate whole group because of a few bad people, and we shouldn't think that all people in some religious or national group are all the same.
It's not right.


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May 22, 2016, 02:37:37 PM
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You can still respect the secularist Muslims out there while still criticising their religion, this idea that criticising somebodies religion automatically means you're persecuting them is a load of politically correct bullshit designed to stop people from talking about the blatant problems with religion in general.
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May 22, 2016, 02:49:30 PM
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You can still respect the secularist Muslims out there while still criticising their religion, this idea that criticising somebodies religion automatically means you're persecuting them is a load of politically correct bullshit designed to stop people from talking about the blatant problems with religion in general.

"Thou shalt not talk about religion or politics"  -so sayeth the political and church leaders
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May 22, 2016, 02:58:04 PM
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No, I really dont hate Muslims or any other religion. What I hate are those people doing no good to others no matter what their religion is.
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May 22, 2016, 03:55:56 PM
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I don't any group of people, I hate individuals... You can be whatever you want, if you're a bad person, you're a bad person.

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May 22, 2016, 05:11:52 PM
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What the heck is this question/topic about?

You should not hate any humans regardless of they race/religion.

And it's not because you are muslem that you are bad you can not just put all them in 1 pot, you not select what will be your race/relegion before you are born  Roll Eyes
Your right you should not hate people for there race FULL STOP..Now your religion i can hate that as much as i like..If i choose not to respect fairy tales then that's my choice..

For me to strike you because of your fairy tales then that's totally wrong no matter what..
It's freedom of speech no matter how much you hate it..It's up to the people the masses to agree with
peoples speeches if they like the person or not..The person who strikes first is in the wrong..

Now because if i am a none believer it says in your books to kill the none believers and they will burn forever.Well if you believe this then i want revenge i want the believers to get the same punishment..

So this is why we have war to many fanatic religious believers..And the question is who will win in the end...THE STORY AS YET TO BE TOLD Grin

None believers are growing way faster than religious believers by far Grin Grin
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May 22, 2016, 07:09:30 PM
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if dont hate moslems but as i saw in my last holydas in India the parts where moslems live is only dirty and full of rubish.
but the other parts with hindus,Budistics,chistinas are clean .
So i thnk moslems are in the culture mostly killing nature !




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May 22, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
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if dont hate moslems but as i saw in my last holydas in India the parts where moslems live is only dirty and full of rubish.
but the other parts with hindus,Budistics,chistinas are clean .


why?
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May 22, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
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if dont hate moslems but as i saw in my last holydas in India the parts where moslems live is only dirty and full of rubish.
but the other parts with hindus,Budistics,chistinas are clean .


why?
No spendy I think he saying he loves them but hates them all at the same time Cheesy
Now I remember what you told me plausible denial
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