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January 08, 2017, 06:03:31 PM
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souljah1h and Vega kiss my ass and look how this lisk shitcoin go down... mainnet not work for 4 hours...

Kissing your nasty ass won't make lisk chain move.
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January 08, 2017, 06:05:36 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2017, 06:26:17 PM by bag holder
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Lisk really does not work...
Show proof?
Wouldn't it be easier to just check it yourself, raither than asking for proof?
Yes, the blockshain hasn't moved in the last 2+ hours. It seems that a bad transaction was included that halted the chain.
Solution is being worked on as we speak.
If you make the claim, you have to show proof. This is how the internet works Tongue so much fud going on in this topic.
I agree that his comment were totally useless without a proper explanation about what's happening, and you can't even believe some people here when they are asking a question.
But I know you are smarter than him and you are also a regular, so you know that he is not someone who is well informed or quick to respond. So questioning him instead of checking is almost as useless as his original less then helpfull statement.

Or maybe I'm just cranky today, ignore me. Smiley

Well this is the last block the explorer shows. I don't have a lisk wallet running, so I can't tell if that explorer's out of sync or if the blockchain's frozen.

https://explorer.lisk.io/

IdTimestampSenderRecipientAmount (LSK)Fee (LSK)
38554048348476332752017/01/08 14:05:14Poloniex13927031237693716380L309.131683020.1
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January 08, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
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Lisk mainnet down, shitcoin...shame!

This always has to happen on Sundays. Smiley Anyways! Oliver has coded a fix, is currently writing a few tests and will then release a hot fix.

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January 08, 2017, 06:14:20 PM
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Lisk network service is too expensive and very fragile. You have been warned about this. Any child can crash it. Grin
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January 08, 2017, 06:19:48 PM
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I suppose no one will buy Ethereum because a small group of people with big mining farms are collectively earning $100k+ profit per day for their node service?

Lisk wants to be the same crap as ETH?
Stop to compare Lisk with ETH.
I don't like the ETH but I must admit...

Vitalik Buterin created the finished product, yes ETH doesn't work perfectly, but it works. So he created a huge community. He created a great team good developers. ETH price higher ICO. On the exchanges have market makers that support the price, create trading volume and provide liquidity. Also he found a lot of big investors, many famous people in community cryptocurrency supports ETH. Created many projects on this platform.

Lisk only collects the money and do nothing.

Delegates want to be millionaires at the expense of the community for ordinary service node. Nobody buys the Lisk to become a delegate because to kiss ass developers is enough to become a delegate as it makes Bitbanksy and other delegates.

Lisk network maintenance is very expensive. 15 000 000(more than 1 500 000 usd) new forged Lisk per year for 101 nodes? Really? If Lisk price = 10 usd, more than 150 000 000 usd for 101 nodes? LOL

101 000 new forged Lisk per year it would be enough for service nodes. If lisk price grow up to 10 usd then delegates will receive a good reward (~ more than 10 000 usd for one delegate per year).

To compare Lisk with Bitshares, BTS is failed project is the same as Lisk.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53n83k/ethereum_energy_consumption_in_eth/

I suppose no one will buy Ethereum because a small group of people with big mining farms are collectively earning $100k+ profit per day for their node service?

Lol. Ethereum miners 've bought many equipment to make their farms. Average Ethereum mining farm costs 2k $ and give to you 5500 $ per year.
But how does it works in Lisk? Developers delegate spends 80-120 $ per year and receive about 14k $. Do you think that it's fair?  

Almost all of the new ETH is mined by a handful of big mining farm owners.  

Amount of revenue per year currently going to this small group of people = 131 000 000 USD

Estimated cost of electricity and hardware = 79 000 000 USD

Yearly profit going to ETH miners = 52 000 000 USD

If you factor in the LSK delegates will spend on development/marketing, and the fact that LSK inflation decreases every year for 5 years, then LSK price would have to be above $10 before the delegates are making so much profit.

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January 08, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2017, 06:37:37 PM by MrPresident
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Lisk network service is too expensive and very fragile. You have been warned about this. Any child can crash it. Grin

What is your purpose here with this comment?
Was it You? (jk)  Grin
You must first understand what "Development" is...
This is still Beta until we reach version 1.0... Wait till the "meal is served" before judging the cuisine.
 
...and if AxlSaddek (the attacker) had bothered doing it on testnet, he would have earned a bounty.
Instead, he did it on mainnet... which does nothing for himself, but still strengthens Lisk by showing us the bug!
He's probably giving himself a big "Pat on the back" for a job well done... which we would be doing too if he had exploited it on testnet.
This issue is nothing more than a minor annoyance.
He just had to pick Sunday.... LMAO grrr


EDIT
he did this back in May, and didn't follow through with his promises...

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January 08, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53n83k/ethereum_energy_consumption_in_eth/

I suppose no one will buy Ethereum because a small group of people with big mining farms are collectively earning $100k+ profit per day for their node service?

Lisk wants to be the same crap as ETH?
Stop to compare Lisk with ETH.
I don't like the ETH but I must admit...

Vitalik Buterin created the finished product, yes ETH doesn't work perfectly, but it works. So he created a huge community. He created a great team good developers. ETH price higher ICO. On the exchanges have market makers that support the price, create trading volume and provide liquidity. Also he found a lot of big investors, many famous people in community cryptocurrency supports ETH. Created many projects on this platform.

Lisk only collects the money and do nothing.

Delegates want to be millionaires at the expense of the community for ordinary service node. Nobody buys the Lisk to become a delegate because to kiss ass developers is enough to become a delegate as it makes Bitbanksy and other delegates.

Lisk network maintenance is very expensive. 15 000 000(more than 1 500 000 usd) new forged Lisk per year for 101 nodes? Really? If Lisk price = 10 usd, more than 150 000 000 usd for 101 nodes? LOL

101 000 new forged Lisk per year it would be enough for service nodes. If lisk price grow up to 10 usd then delegates will receive a good reward (~ more than 10 000 usd for one delegate per year).

To compare Lisk with Bitshares, BTS is failed project is the same as Lisk.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53n83k/ethereum_energy_consumption_in_eth/

I suppose no one will buy Ethereum because a small group of people with big mining farms are collectively earning $100k+ profit per day for their node service?

Lol. Ethereum miners 've bought many equipment to make their farms. Average Ethereum mining farm costs 2k $ and give to you 5500 $ per year.
But how does it works in Lisk? Developers delegate spends 80-120 $ per year and receive about 14k $. Do you think that it's fair?  

Almost all of the new ETH is mined by a handful of big mining farm owners.  

Amount of revenue per year currently going to this small group of people = 131 000 000 USD

Estimated cost of electricity and hardware = 79 000 000 USD

Yearly profit going to ETH miners = 52 000 000 USD

If you factor in the LSK delegates will spend on development/marketing, and the fact that LSK inflation decreases every year for 5 years, then LSK price would have to be above $10 before the delegates are making so much profit.

Ethereum: so immutable & forkable at the same time (as per owners discretion Wink )
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January 08, 2017, 07:01:16 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2017, 07:12:15 PM by MrPresident
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Ethereum: so immutable & forkable at the same time (as per owners discretion Wink )
hehe yea...
and the forging distribution points are invalid, because we have a 101 delegate base to feed, not five million miners or whatever ETH has.
Lisk is so much more efficient its crazy... in every way.
101 or even 1001 linux servers vs umpteen thousands of graphics cards sucking the grid dry for a couple simple transactions, just like bitcoin... with regular difficulty increases demanding even more and more compute power. It's horrible.
Lisk has no such difficulty increases, and the power demands never increase other than fluctuations in traffic.
Ethereum is also planning to switch over to DPoS. hehe  What will they say then?
Imagine all those who invested into GPU's... damn! ...aaaaaannndd... it's gone.... poof! just like that.
It's gonna piss-off alot of folks. The drama will be a-plenty.

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January 08, 2017, 07:18:42 PM
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool
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January 08, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
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Lisk price above 17k up is the way
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January 08, 2017, 07:35:36 PM
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I smell some move upward soon...

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January 08, 2017, 07:35:41 PM
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Lisk will be huge FUDERS kiss my ass !
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January 08, 2017, 07:55:53 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2017, 08:08:02 PM by MrPresident
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool


ico price was 7cent usd, we are at what... 15cent? satoshi's mean nothing when the price of bitcoin is moving, you must watch the usd value, the BOTTOM LINE.
You need not trust my words, everything is available to the public.
.....Active work?

1,814 commits
Try using the tools at your fingertips?

1814 / 10 months = 181 commits per month, or 45 commits per week average.
That's downright slammin' it hard. Over 6 commits averaged a day. 31 releases for cryin' out loud.
If that's not "real actions and active work", you are simply in another universe.

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January 08, 2017, 08:06:48 PM
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool
What was the price of ETH nine months after their ICO?
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January 08, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool
What was the price of ETH nine months after their ICO?

Above 1.1 dollar. It means x2.2 higher then ICO.
LISK ICO price was 17 thousands satoshi. And few weeks ago it was around 13 k satoshi.

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January 08, 2017, 09:11:56 PM
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Lisk development in one picture
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January 08, 2017, 09:20:02 PM
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool
What was the price of ETH nine months after their ICO?

Above 1.1 dollar. It means x2.2 higher then ICO.
LISK ICO price was 17 thousands satoshi. And few weeks ago it was around 13 k satoshi.
I know almost nothing of ethereum yet it took me 3 minutes to fact check that you are wrong. Again.
Ethereum wasn't even launched yet 9 months after their ICO ended.
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January 08, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
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But ETH price 1 111 000 sat, Lisk price 16 000 sat. why?
If the Lisk price will grow to 60-70k and stabilized to 50k in the near future then people maybe will trust your stories. Prove it with real actions and active work.  Cool
What was the price of ETH nine months after their ICO?

Above 1.1 dollar. It means x2.2 higher then ICO.
LISK ICO price was 17 thousands satoshi. And few weeks ago it was around 13 k satoshi.
I know almost nothing of ethereum yet it took me 3 minutes to fact check that you are wrong. Again.
Ethereum wasn't even launched yet 9 months after their ICO ended.

Sorry, my bad. I'm counting from launching of network.
But in fact Ethereum it's also not a good coin. Very spequlating coin with big whales.

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January 08, 2017, 09:29:14 PM
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And don't you dare compare this lisk with Ethereum.
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January 08, 2017, 09:32:47 PM
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And don't you dare compare this lisk with Ethereum.
I didn't. The only other time I mentioned Ethereum in this thread when I compared the inflation rate after the increadible amount of whining about how high lisk inflation is.
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