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April 05, 2016, 03:28:30 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:29:16 PM |
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People relax, There is a lot to figure out for the Lisk team, what they did is prob. a hard decision but a really important and good one! When your in an ICO with this amount of funds raised things need to go well and good organised and i must say there doing a damn great job at that! Think about people complaining after the start about there funds etc. Now they even extended it and i guess no one have the right to complain anymore. Just be patient and you will be rewarded! Till then try to manage a delegate and enjoy or start Learning JS and Node JS. https://www.codecademy.com/https://www.codeschool.com/https://teamtreehouse.com/Also read about my delegate https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96Im looking for people that would like to help with www.Liskchain.info to make it a great community website! Send me an Pm if interrested yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines. This launch was a big event which could have been continued except arbitrarily canceled by people where time is a resource they can throw around now without spending money. Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. |
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fmz89
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April 05, 2016, 03:29:52 PM |
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wow delayed dev want to create "FUD" & "FEAR" naturally, "fundamental things applied as time goes bye" or LISK bug every where, dev panic cant solve the bug.....hahaha  i told u guys, dev just lied reason of delay, they had lot of bugs, lol, dead of lisk lisk 1k at first exchange, looks like page posting will boost to 700 page all ur BTC will burned 90% |
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April 05, 2016, 03:35:07 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
I completely agree with you. |
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Mrboot
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April 05, 2016, 03:38:15 PM |
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People relax, There is a lot to figure out for the Lisk team, what they did is prob. a hard decision but a really important and good one! When your in an ICO with this amount of funds raised things need to go well and good organised and i must say there doing a damn great job at that! Think about people complaining after the start about there funds etc. Now they even extended it and i guess no one have the right to complain anymore. Just be patient and you will be rewarded! Till then try to manage a delegate and enjoy or start Learning JS and Node JS. https://www.codecademy.com/https://www.codeschool.com/https://teamtreehouse.com/Also read about my delegate https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96Im looking for people that would like to help with www.Liskchain.info to make it a great community website! Send me an Pm if interrested yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines. This launch was a big event which could have been continued except arbitrarily canceled by people where time is a resource they can throw around now without spending money. Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Sometimes it just cant be kept for some reasons and the delay is not huge, but acceptable. The start is important for a coin so better do it right in ones. |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:40:08 PM |
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People relax, There is a lot to figure out for the Lisk team, what they did is prob. a hard decision but a really important and good one! When your in an ICO with this amount of funds raised things need to go well and good organised and i must say there doing a damn great job at that! Think about people complaining after the start about there funds etc. Now they even extended it and i guess no one have the right to complain anymore. Just be patient and you will be rewarded! Till then try to manage a delegate and enjoy or start Learning JS and Node JS. https://www.codecademy.com/https://www.codeschool.com/https://teamtreehouse.com/Also read about my delegate https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96Im looking for people that would like to help with www.Liskchain.info to make it a great community website! Send me an Pm if interrested yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines. This launch was a big event which could have been continued except arbitrarily canceled by people where time is a resource they can throw around now without spending money. Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Sometimes it just cant be kept for some reasons and the delay is not huge, but acceptable. The start is important for a coin so better do it right in ones. I'd like to hear a good reason for the delay and not just because 15% of the people did no grab their keys. If that is the only reason then they are screwing themselves. they can say it's for security but LISKHQ said already that they are minor and inconsequential so the only reason is the keys. |
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Vega
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April 05, 2016, 03:42:22 PM |
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yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines.
I was sure since the beginning that key generation issues will hold up the project, when I seen that there is no hard deadline and mechanism for it. Without it it was foregone conclusion that they will be forced to extend the deadline, or/and deal with it manually (and less securely). There were more than 30 people that participated in NXT ICO that never claimed their coin. NODE set a very-very long deadline to claim coins, one or two idiot turned up months later and screamed demanding their coins. I'm not following NEM, but I'm sure it happened there too. No matter what you do there will always be a percentage of ppl that will not do the bare minimum to protect their investment. The maximum you can do is reduce their number with this delay, but I expect it will be a minimal reduction. Most of those who ignored the countless announcements and warnings till now, not really gonna wake up in the next three weeks. But they announced a delay, so there is gonna be a delay. Nothing to do about it now. And really not like it really matters in the long run, only to the "now,now,now" types (they are many) in the crypto community. |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:42:41 PM |
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and what happens in 4 weeks when we still have 10% of people not generating their keys? Will there be more fud for wasting 3 weeks of our time for 5% of keys generated?
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Mrboot
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April 05, 2016, 03:43:29 PM |
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People relax, There is a lot to figure out for the Lisk team, what they did is prob. a hard decision but a really important and good one! When your in an ICO with this amount of funds raised things need to go well and good organised and i must say there doing a damn great job at that! Think about people complaining after the start about there funds etc. Now they even extended it and i guess no one have the right to complain anymore. Just be patient and you will be rewarded! Till then try to manage a delegate and enjoy or start Learning JS and Node JS. https://www.codecademy.com/https://www.codeschool.com/https://teamtreehouse.com/Also read about my delegate https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96Im looking for people that would like to help with www.Liskchain.info to make it a great community website! Send me an Pm if interrested yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines. This launch was a big event which could have been continued except arbitrarily canceled by people where time is a resource they can throw around now without spending money. Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Sometimes it just cant be kept for some reasons and the delay is not huge, but acceptable. The start is important for a coin so better do it right in ones. I'd like to hear a good reason for the delay and not just because 15% of the people did no grab their keys. If that is the only reason then they are screwing themselves. Buddy i really dont think this 2 weeks will be bad for Lisk, 15% can be a lot when people are starting to complain. You need to return them there funds or mail the keys, but that brings risk. People dont forget this is not a Sprint your the first in the Row the early adaptars, Look about the possibility's when Lisk will reach Dollar 1 Plus no1 will complain ever again. |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:49:01 PM |
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People relax, There is a lot to figure out for the Lisk team, what they did is prob. a hard decision but a really important and good one! When your in an ICO with this amount of funds raised things need to go well and good organised and i must say there doing a damn great job at that! Think about people complaining after the start about there funds etc. Now they even extended it and i guess no one have the right to complain anymore. Just be patient and you will be rewarded! Till then try to manage a delegate and enjoy or start Learning JS and Node JS. https://www.codecademy.com/https://www.codeschool.com/https://teamtreehouse.com/Also read about my delegate https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96Im looking for people that would like to help with www.Liskchain.info to make it a great community website! Send me an Pm if interrested yes but part of being organized is also keeping timelines. This launch was a big event which could have been continued except arbitrarily canceled by people where time is a resource they can throw around now without spending money. Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Sometimes it just cant be kept for some reasons and the delay is not huge, but acceptable. The start is important for a coin so better do it right in ones. I'd like to hear a good reason for the delay and not just because 15% of the people did no grab their keys. If that is the only reason then they are screwing themselves. Buddy i really dont think this 2 weeks will be bad for Lisk, 15% can be a lot when people are starting to complain. You need to return them there funds or mail the keys, but that brings risk. People dont forget this is not a Sprint your the first in the Row the early adaptars, Look about the possibility's when Lisk will reach Dollar 1 Plus no1 will complain ever again. This is not a complaint about money. This is all about how the LISK organization handles roadblocks in the future and how they make decisions. Will it be take from the majority to help the minority every time from now on? This is a slippery slope that they started walking on and I just hope it does not come back to bite them on their ass. |
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Porsche911
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April 05, 2016, 03:50:18 PM |
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Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Time = Money ? Then I can just stay at home and wait for the money every month  Market value = Money Bring value to a company, that is money. Just my 2cents. Also check out invesd.org / soon more about this kind of readings and more interviews. |
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deadpoolx
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April 05, 2016, 03:53:02 PM |
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405 pages?!  LOL That was fast |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:54:14 PM |
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Time = Money. When you mess with the timeline, you start messing with peoples money. Then you are screwed. Time = Money ? Then I can just stay at home and wait for the money every month Market value = Money Bring value to a company, that is money. Just my 2cents. Also check out invesd.org / soon more about this kind of readings and more interviews. That's what I do. Maybe you should figure out how to do it, it's not hard. If you are a merchant and get an order and decide to wait 3 days to ship it, that time wasted you future sales. Guaranteed. Time = Money. |
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LiskHQ (OP)
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April 05, 2016, 03:57:24 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
I completely agree with you. That's wrong. 44% are waiting for 56% to validate their passphrases. The number of generated passphrases doesn't mean anything. The number of validation does. We get MANY (like A LOT!) of support requests every day to reset the passphrases. I already prepared the email list with over 2700 unique email addresses which didn't validate their passphrases, we will send out the first email today. |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 03:58:36 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
I completely agree with you. That's wrong. 44% are waiting for 56% to validate their passphrases. The number of generated passphrases doesn't mean anything. The number of validation does. We get MANY (like A LOT!) of support requests every day to reset the passphrases. I already prepared the email list with over 2700 unique email addresses which didn't validate their passphrases, we will send out the first email today. are you fkin serious? You were saying EARLY ON that Generated passphrases are important and VALIDATION WAS NOT! and seriously, if that's the case then you guys screwed up the launch because every time people asked that back in the day, people told them that validation was not important as generating and saving your keys. |
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LiskHQ (OP)
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April 05, 2016, 04:00:04 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
I completely agree with you. That's wrong. 44% are waiting for 56% to validate their passphrases. The number of generated passphrases doesn't mean anything. The number of validation does. We get MANY (like A LOT!) of support requests every day to reset the passphrases. I already prepared the email list with over 2700 unique email addresses which didn't validate their passphrases, we will send out the first email today. are you serious? You were saying EARLY ON that Generated passphrases are important and VALIDATION WAS NOT! Over the last couple of days it became more and more clear that people were just generating passphrases and didn't save them. |
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Porsche911
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April 05, 2016, 04:00:42 PM |
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That's what I do. Maybe you should figure out how to do it, it's not hard.
If you are a merchant and get an order and decide to wait 3 days to ship it, that time wasted you future sales. Guaranteed. Time = Money. Well but it might be your skill. that delayed the order too. In some sense TImé, money might seem right. But in real in never is. Wherever you work, its always your value that matters. The time is just an illusion. |
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cannabanana
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April 05, 2016, 04:02:08 PM |
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That's what I do. Maybe you should figure out how to do it, it's not hard.
If you are a merchant and get an order and decide to wait 3 days to ship it, that time wasted you future sales. Guaranteed. Time = Money. Well but it might be your skill. that delayed the order too. In some sense TImé, money might seem right. But in real in never is. Wherever you work, its always your value that matters. The time is just an illusion. if you want to get deep, everything is an illusion. All truth is subjective to ones own personal experiences. |
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Vega
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April 05, 2016, 04:03:33 PM |
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That's wrong. 44% are waiting for 56% to validate their passphrases. The number of generated passphrases doesn't mean anything. The number of validation does.
I didn't know validation is that important to you. Fine, I'll validate the stupid passphrases, even if I know for sure everything are in order. But seriously, this is not the first time that you go to great lengths to protect people from their own stupidity. This is not a good habit in my opinion, not to this extent. (As the matter of fact, I think this is one of the main long term problem with civilization. Stupid/careless should get less opportunity to reproduce, or in this case, make money.) |
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Digital_Currency_LTD
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April 05, 2016, 04:04:01 PM |
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It is not fair that 85 % have to wait to 15%...
I completely agree with you. That's wrong. 44% are waiting for 56% to validate their passphrases. The number of generated passphrases doesn't mean anything. The number of validation does. We get MANY (like A LOT!) of support requests every day to reset the passphrases. I already prepared the email list with over 2700 unique email addresses which didn't validate their passphrases, we will send out the first email today. are you serious? You were saying EARLY ON that Generated passphrases are important and VALIDATION WAS NOT! Over the last couple of days it became more and more clear that people were just generating passphrases and didn't save them. Max and what is the problem with that?! If some people is totally idiot, you can't change them.  Now the people who did everything fine must wait to these idiots. |
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