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but what if lisk becomes worthless in 2 years ? are you going to say the same thing?
But what if in two years Lisk is 10 times as valuable as today? Would you ask me the same question again? The only reason for your thesis could be the team gives up. Then Lisk might be worthless in two years. But I've been tracking Lisk now for over a year. I've seen the work and I've seen the commitment of the team. I've noticed that Max participated in so many conferences last year - everything paid by his own money. I have realized the big community, I've realized the growing number of devs in the last few weeks. So I trust the team and I firmly believe that they will do their best for Lisk. if LISK is 10 times as valuable as today, i will admit my poor assessment. There are bulls/bears to any project so someone will always turn out to be wrong. I'm thinking as an investor, and I've watched many crypto projects fail and most of them is due to poor team. I wouldn't say lisk has a strong team at all. Max doesn't code at all and has no real technical skills. His twitter cover picture is a picture of a word 'entreprenuer'. lol.. Oliver..? he was an IT manager of an unknown place in UK. his github commits are just ... trivial. important thing is, if you have investment in lisk, make sure it is small % of your portfolio. To Oliver and Max everything is said. We have a completely different view of this, I think they are very good people for Lisk. If Google is your scale, in a year we are talking about WeTrust. And we'll see where Lisk is. I am very confident.
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March 09, 2017, 03:38:09 PM |
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So Max has to be able to code for it to be viable? They have the funds to employ more qualified people to do the things they need.
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March 09, 2017, 04:25:13 PM |
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So Max has to be able to code for it to be viable? They have the funds to employ more qualified people to do the things they need. Qualified coder will create his own cryptocurrency and ICO. Why should he work in Lisk?
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Wysi
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March 09, 2017, 04:30:22 PM |
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So Max has to be able to code for it to be viable? They have the funds to employ more qualified people to do the things they need. Qualified coder will create his own cryptocurrency and ICO. Why should he work in Lisk? Every single one of them? Riiiight. Like every web developer runs their own agency. Or every mechanic has their own garage. Next!
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BitBanksy
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March 09, 2017, 04:42:25 PM |
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is it true that max going to sell 1mil. lisk coins before this weekend???
please tell me fast. dont want to sell under 10k.
Not Max but me yes I need some cash for the weekend 😂😂😂 Simpleton fudders are ridiculously reaching a new level of foolishness...
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March 09, 2017, 04:53:14 PM Last edit: March 09, 2017, 05:11:44 PM by Calabi–Yau Manifold |
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Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids...
Smart people would not waste their time in this thread if Lisk would be garbage. This either means you are not a smart person or you are pursuing a specific goal. Because of the fact that you're only spreading lies and rumors, I type on point two. You are following a certain plan... but what if lisk becomes worthless in 2 years ? are you going to say the same thing? Good question. Crypti path - it's where Lisk heading. But Kordek and friends have muuuuch more BTC than at Crypti so why they would bother? They almost can retire with funds. Slowly and lazy cheap development is their way to have BTC from project for a many, many years of their life. They have job, bagholders have hope and Lisk is dying. They key is always money. They don't need to work hard on Lisk (even if they have skills which they ofc don't have), they want to work LONG. You see now...
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March 09, 2017, 05:01:50 PM Last edit: March 09, 2017, 05:13:04 PM by Calabi–Yau Manifold |
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So bitch please... don't trick people that project is OK because it's not. Few people like "s0nix" who is spending his life in this thread to tell people that failed Lisk is great (only because he is bagholder) will not help and change facts. Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids... So why ppl here need to trust you? May be you are fudding here to get cheap Lisk? Sonix protect Lisk here bcoz he like Lisk, and you? You don't need to trust me, i'm not looking for fans. I'm sharing opinions about some FACTS about weak lisk development which anyone with iq 80+ can see. Lack of good dev team, lack of "vision of project", lack of smart using ICO funds, lack of Dapps, sidechains, lack of popularity, good price, volume, and 1 year with "gems/milestones" like "network launch" "frustration with funds" "move to Berlin" "network is stable" LOL etc. is showing everything about weakness of Lisk. The only goal they did is DPOS. Imo it's just form of inflation, not good way to decetralisation. Don't worry I'm not trading it. If you can't see that I'm talking about FACTS, so you are imo in denial. But don't looking for some secret motives of my posts here. Sharing opinion obut facts is my goal, and sometimes it's geting stronger when I see s0nix-bagholder nonsense about "great Lisk" lol. He is leading people to loose money by talking bs about Lisk.And BTW I'm not talking "Sell lisk!". Do what you want. Hold, buy, trade how you like. I'm just talking about project per se and its market condition. I'm not shilling any "sell!" nor "buy!". Trading is free for all of us. Good luck.
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Wysi
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March 09, 2017, 05:02:06 PM |
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Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids...
Smart people would not waste their time in this thread if Lisk would be garbage. This either means you are not a smart person or you are pursuing a specific goal. Because of the fact that you're only spreading lies and rumors, I type on point two. You are following a certain plan... but what if lisk becomes worthless in 2 years ? are you going to say the same thing? Good question. Crypti path - it's where Lisk heading. But Kordek and friends have muuuuch more BTC than at Crypti so they would bother? They almost can retire with funds. Slowly and lazy cheap development is their way to have BTC from project for a many, many years of their life. They have job, bagholders have hope and Lisk is dying. They key is always money. They don't need to work hard on Lisk (even if they have skills which they ofc don;t have), they want to work LONG. You see now. It is good they are thinking long term. I see this as a long term investment. How is it dying? Cos the price is lower than you'd like? lol.
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Calabi–Yau Manifold
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March 09, 2017, 05:09:44 PM |
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Facts need to be backed up with evidence.
They seem extremely competent from where I am sitting.
What makes you think they are incompetent? Please back your points up with sources.
Are you fu..ing joking now? Evidence? Look at Lisk. Where it is and what have now, almost 1 year after ICO. Look at dapps (ouch, there's no any, maybe in 1 year, alomst 2 years after ico... ouuuch), sidechains, sdk, new team (so many btc and Kordek don't want to spend it for very good devs... more btc for him... long long years to retire...), look at silly waiting for funds, look at market condition, popularity, silly problems with poloniex lisk deposits/withdrawals all the time. We have only DPOS. We dont have much more than Crypti. Probably even less than crypti, look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18056384#msg18056384Here you have evidences. Very easy to see. Just open eyes and please be impartial. Look at another crypto projects like eth, dash, fct and many more, how much they are doing in 1 year (probably more in 1 month than Lisk in 1 year lol). in 1 year Lisk did what normal project can do in 2 weeks. Please read XbladeX posts, very good: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18056443#msg18056443
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Wysi
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March 09, 2017, 05:18:25 PM |
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Facts need to be backed up with evidence.
They seem extremely competent from where I am sitting.
What makes you think they are incompetent? Please back your points up with sources.
Are you fu..ing joking now? Evidence? Look at Lisk. Where it is and what have now, almost 1 year after ICO. Look at dapps (ouch, there's no any, maybe in 1 year, alomst 2 years after ico... ouuuch), sidechains, sdk, new team (so many btc and Kordek don't want to spend it for very good devs... more btc for him... long long years to retire...), look at silly waiting for funds, look at market condition, popularity, silly problems with poloniex lisk deposits/withdrawals all the time. We have only DPOS. We dont have much more than Crypti. Probably even less than crypti, look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18056384#msg18056384Here you have evidences. Very easy to see. Just open eyes and please be impartial. Look at another crypto projects like eth, dash, fct and many more, how much they are doing in 1 year (probably more in 1 month than Lisk in 1 year lol). in 1 year Lisk did what normal project can do in 2 weeks. Please read XbladeX posts, very good: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18056443#msg18056443They got access ICO funds like 3 months ago. They hired and are hiring. SDK they are rewriting. People have made apps if you bother to look. Waiting for funds was part of the conditions. Market price is low, but still 2x Fiat ICO price. Eth didn't even have a functioning wallet at launch. And had monthly expenses upwards of $200K lol. Look at all time chart of ETH. Spike, lull, moon. We are in lull.
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Calabi–Yau Manifold
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March 09, 2017, 05:22:51 PM |
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It is good they are thinking long term. I see this as a long term investment.
How is it dying? Cos the price is lower than you'd like?
lol.
Longterm is good but with good project. I don;t think Lisk is good. Ofc price is lower than ico so maybe it will rise to 20-30k, but overall, it's not easy to be sure about "longterm with Lisk" because lognterm for them is giving them 1year or even more to first demo dapps... It's pretty weak for 2 year project with 14,000 BTC funds. But trade how you like and good luck. Dying because of all thing that I wrote about in previous posts. Price is just reflecting, more or less, value of project by traders/investors community. If Lisk would have good development since beginning, it wouldn't rise/pump only 3 days do 125k and after go 10 months with downtrend (!) with small bounces. 125k to 8k is not joke. Market is never wrong. Look at eth or dash development, how much they're doing all the time (i'm not fan of eth or dash, just an examples). And market is telling "we like it!" and "we will pay for that!" "this is interesting!". Similar with fct, maid, etc... I don't see that for Lisk since 10 months and, which is worse, I see small chances for changing development by Kordek. They want to do it slowly and they don't have skills to make Lisk big like an not only eth-competitor but top 10 new project. I would buy 10-20BTC worth Lisk NOW if I see that dev Kordek is serious man and have strong vision and know how to spend funds for brilliant development and very important dapps-project. I can't see it now so I don't buy.
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Calabi–Yau Manifold
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March 09, 2017, 05:29:33 PM |
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Market price is low, but still 2x Fiat ICO price.
Yes I know and good, because ico-investors are still in profit i fiats. Eth didn't even have a functioning wallet at launch. And had monthly expenses upwards of $200K lol.
Look at all time chart of ETH. Spike, lull, moon.
We are in lull.
Man... Please... ETH ico price was around 50-75k sat with much cheaper BTC... ETH went around 5000% UP and even with corrections was at very high profit. Week ago ETH was even a little below ATH in USD. Please... Don't even try to talk about ETH and Lisk that way. Lisk is bug or even bacteria and ETH is serious. ETH development, team, market condition, popularity etc. etc, everyting is smashing Lisk like small bug. Lisk investors would propably NEVER experience profits or huge development and popularity like ETH did. Every Lisk "investor" would DIE to buy not Lisk ICO but ETH ICO (or any serious project with serious development).
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Wysi
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March 09, 2017, 05:38:04 PM |
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It's pretty weak for 2 year project with 14,000 BTC funds.
1 year project that has just got access to their ICO funds.
Try again.
What is your motivation to be so active here? Are you here out of the kindness of your heart to stop noobs parting with their money?
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March 09, 2017, 05:47:04 PM |
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It's pretty weak for 2 year project with 14,000 BTC funds.
1 year project that has just got access to their ICO funds.
Try again.
What is your motivation to be so active here? Are you here out of the kindness of your heart to stop noobs parting with their money?
10,000btc marketcap and 14,000btc of funds for development? What am I missing here ? It only looks like a strong BUY right now.
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s0nix
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March 09, 2017, 05:53:49 PM |
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So Max has to be able to code for it to be viable? They have the funds to employ more qualified people to do the things they need. ... Every single one of them? Riiiight. Like every web developer runs their own agency. Or every mechanic has their own garage. Next! And every FUDster has their own forum I hope so.
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March 09, 2017, 05:59:34 PM |
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So Max has to be able to code for it to be viable? They have the funds to employ more qualified people to do the things they need. Qualified coder will create his own cryptocurrency and ICO. Why should he work in Lisk? Every single one of them? Riiiight. Like every web developer runs their own agency. Or every mechanic has their own garage. Next! fixcrypt (ARK), Boris Povod(Wings).... Why they don't want to work in Lisk ?
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March 09, 2017, 06:01:10 PM |
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So bitch please... don't trick people that project is OK because it's not. Few people like "s0nix" who is spending his life in this thread to tell people that failed Lisk is great (only because he is bagholder) will not help and change facts. Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids... So why ppl here need to trust you? May be you are fudding here to get cheap Lisk? Sonix protect Lisk here bcoz he like Lisk, and you? You don't need to trust me, i'm not looking for fans. I'm sharing opinions about some FACTS about weak lisk development which anyone with iq 80+ can see. Lack of good dev team, lack of "vision of project", lack of smart using ICO funds, lack of Dapps, sidechains, lack of popularity, good price, volume, and 1 year with "gems/milestones" like "network launch" "frustration with funds" "move to Berlin" "network is stable" LOL etc. is showing everything about weakness of Lisk. The only goal they did is DPOS. Imo it's just form of inflation, not good way to decetralisation. Don't worry I'm not trading it. If you can't see that I'm talking about FACTS, so you are imo in denial. But don't looking for some secret motives of my posts here. Sharing opinion obut facts is my goal, and sometimes it's geting stronger when I see s0nix-bagholder nonsense about "great Lisk" lol. He is leading people to loose money by talking bs about Lisk.And BTW I'm not talking "Sell lisk!". Do what you want. Hold, buy, trade how you like. I'm just talking about project per se and its market condition. I'm not shilling any "sell!" nor "buy!". Trading is free for all of us. Good luck. i'm with you. I was a prospective investor, thought of investing but even with the price as low as it is, if I don't believe in it long term, I'm not going to invest. I look for strong team behind crypto projects, because that's where the value is. I really didn't see it in max or oliver, sad to say.
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March 09, 2017, 06:11:07 PM |
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So bitch please... don't trick people that project is OK because it's not. Few people like "s0nix" who is spending his life in this thread to tell people that failed Lisk is great (only because he is bagholder) will not help and change facts. Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids... So why ppl here need to trust you? May be you are fudding here to get cheap Lisk? Sonix protect Lisk here bcoz he like Lisk, and you? You don't need to trust me, i'm not looking for fans. I'm sharing opinions about some FACTS about weak lisk development which anyone with iq 80+ can see. Lack of good dev team, lack of "vision of project", lack of smart using ICO funds, lack of Dapps, sidechains, lack of popularity, good price, volume, and 1 year with "gems/milestones" like "network launch" "frustration with funds" "move to Berlin" "network is stable" LOL etc. is showing everything about weakness of Lisk. The only goal they did is DPOS. Imo it's just form of inflation, not good way to decetralisation. Don't worry I'm not trading it. If you can't see that I'm talking about FACTS, so you are imo in denial. But don't looking for some secret motives of my posts here. Sharing opinion obut facts is my goal, and sometimes it's geting stronger when I see s0nix-bagholder nonsense about "great Lisk" lol. He is leading people to loose money by talking bs about Lisk.And BTW I'm not talking "Sell lisk!". Do what you want. Hold, buy, trade how you like. I'm just talking about project per se and its market condition. I'm not shilling any "sell!" nor "buy!". Trading is free for all of us. Good luck. i'm with you. I was a prospective investor, thought of investing but even with the price as low as it is, if I don't believe in it long term, I'm not going to invest. I look for strong team behind crypto projects, because that's where the value is. I really didn't see it in max or oliver, sad to say. then sell your lisk and go on your way.
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s0nix
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March 09, 2017, 06:15:11 PM |
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Sharing opinion obut facts is my goal, and sometimes it's geting stronger when I see s0nix-bagholder nonsense about "great Lisk" lol. He is leading people to loose money by talking bs about Lisk.
Good luck.
No. Share lies and nonsense is your goal.Facts. For weeks you have been deliberately telling wrong things about the ICO Fund. You write BS as Lisk is Crypti. I had sent you some links and facts, you ignored everything. And No. I've never told people to buy or whatever.But why should this thread to be dominated by fools like you, by scammers like UnunoctiumTesticles or all the Noob FUDster who were never here last year. As soon as the price drops, you rats come out of their holes?? No chance!
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March 09, 2017, 06:38:59 PM |
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So bitch please... don't trick people that project is OK because it's not. Few people like "s0nix" who is spending his life in this thread to tell people that failed Lisk is great (only because he is bagholder) will not help and change facts. Smart people see that Lisk is on very bad development. You can't explain it by very long way with funds. Anyway it was great and strong signal that people behind Lisk are kids... So why ppl here need to trust you? May be you are fudding here to get cheap Lisk? Sonix protect Lisk here bcoz he like Lisk, and you? You don't need to trust me, i'm not looking for fans. I'm sharing opinions about some FACTS about weak lisk development which anyone with iq 80+ can see. Lack of good dev team, lack of "vision of project", lack of smart using ICO funds, lack of Dapps, sidechains, lack of popularity, good price, volume, and 1 year with "gems/milestones" like "network launch" "frustration with funds" "move to Berlin" "network is stable" LOL etc. is showing everything about weakness of Lisk. The only goal they did is DPOS. Imo it's just form of inflation, not good way to decetralisation. Don't worry I'm not trading it. If you can't see that I'm talking about FACTS, so you are imo in denial. But don't looking for some secret motives of my posts here. Sharing opinion obut facts is my goal, and sometimes it's geting stronger when I see s0nix-bagholder nonsense about "great Lisk" lol. He is leading people to loose money by talking bs about Lisk.And BTW I'm not talking "Sell lisk!". Do what you want. Hold, buy, trade how you like. I'm just talking about project per se and its market condition. I'm not shilling any "sell!" nor "buy!". Trading is free for all of us. Good luck. i'm with you. I was a prospective investor, thought of investing but even with the price as low as it is, if I don't believe in it long term, I'm not going to invest. I look for strong team behind crypto projects, because that's where the value is. I really didn't see it in max or oliver, sad to say. then sell your lisk and go on your way. don't have any lisk. i was a 'prospective' investor. after considering pros and cons, i decided not to invest. on the other hand, are you a real lisk investor? can we see your wallet? how do we know you aren't trying to pump and dump?
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