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[breeze71]

The inflation at ETH is much higher I think.

ETH with POW, Lisk with DPOS. It's impossible to compare. But high inflation in the ETH its chief drawback.
Must be compared with Bitshares(DPOS).  Bitshares is crap, in a few years they didn't arouse any interest in people.
Lisk may become the same crap like Bitshares. I don't want it. In POW system anyone can buy a graphics cards or asic miners and take some rewards from mining. In POS system anyone can buy a some amount of coins and take reward from posing. In hybrid system you can buy a graphics cards/asic miners or a some amount of coins and take reward. Example in DASH you can buy 1000 DASH and run masternode or buying asic miner, after that to receive a reward for their investment. In these systems, anyone can get a reward for their investment, this is the reason for their popularity. low inflation and the maximum limit of the coins also contributes to the popularity of cryptocurrency. In Lisk with DPOS only 101 people can get a reward, this system will not be popular. Lisk have some lsk pools, but I think these shitass are planning to remove them.  

Steem(DPOS) only dump

 
Bitshares(DPOS) only dump 2-3 years


Lisk(DPOS) only dump


Stratis(POS) price is higher ICO x2-x3


ETH(POW) It is better


DASH(hybrid POW + masternodes) It is better



But now need to focus on the SDK.

Soon an upward price movement will be inevitable. Better accumulate some more Lisk at this stage.

At this stage some delegates to sell all their Lisk for dump.




I think one person is the owner of two delegates places.

movecrypto = traderbill ?

A message to kolap, Omaha & breeze: You know guys any amount of time you spend criticizing LiskHQ is time you could spent improving your worthless contributions. Your trolls are repetitive, irritating and seriously idiotic.

Oh dear shill. I spend just 15-30 minutes in day for comments during the tea party because using time management and quickly express ideas and thoughts through text. Highly recommend. You immediately ceased to be active when you lost delegate place. You are here only for the sake of free forged lsk. You are not interested in the success of the project, you are only interested in money. Max must read are different comments.

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[Virtum]

ETH with POW, Lisk with DPOS. It's impossible to compare. But high inflation in the ETH its chief drawback.
Must be compared with Bitshares(DPOS).  Bitshares is crap, in a few years they didn't arouse any interest in people.
Lisk may become the same crap like Bitshares. I don't want it. In POW system anyone can buy a graphics cards or asic miners and take some rewards from mining. In POS system anyone can buy a some amount of coins and take reward from posing. In hybrid system you can buy a graphics cards/asic miners or a some amount of coins and take reward. Example in DASH you can buy 1000 DASH and run masternode or buying asic miner, after that to receive a reward for their investment. In these systems, anyone can get a reward for their investment, this is the reason for their popularity. low inflation and the maximum limit of the coins also contributes to the popularity of cryptocurrency. In Lisk with DPOS only 101 people can get a reward, this system will not be popular. Lisk have some lsk pools, but I think these shitass are planning to remove them.  

You are right, that's a very insightful observation.

[poolfor.us]

Please vote for new lisk pool https://poolfor.us/
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[Limx Dev]

Please vote for new lisk pool https://poolfor.us/
Delegate name poolfor.us
Share 85%
Rank 159
Thanks

I have voted for your pool. 

[s0nix]

Theoretically you could also payout some of the BTC in form of a dividend: Every LSK gets xx.xx BTC

Who can pay off BTC and why? What did you calculate?
A lot of suggestions, but most have nothing to do with the current situation and with Lisk.

[Poly#Crypto]

 



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[Bailo]

Please be fair, if you are comparing these coins. Use the same period....

[cabsav]

This dpos system if continues lisk prices will go to some satoshis. Btc going up altcoins down lisk goin down. Btc going down altcoins up lisk still going down. this is cause of this delegate system. Cause delegates looks like dont care lisk they just dumping the lisk to market no matter the price.

[Bobo81]

Hi,

I'm curious about delegates... And pools.

Is there an explanation somewhere?

Thanks!

[s0nix]

Hi,

I'm curious about delegates... And pools.

Is there an explanation somewhere?

Thanks!

Here you'll find a good explanation about the delegates and the forging.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-wiki/wiki/Delegates-Forging

[ImI]

Theoretically you could also payout some of the BTC in form of a dividend: Every LSK gets xx.xx BTC

Who can pay off BTC

Whoever holds the 14.000 ICO-BTCs.

why?

Why not? I am sure the Lisk owners would appreciate to get some share of those BTCs paid out. Its highly questionable if those 16mio$ will ever be fully used in a productive and value enhancing way. Also a dividend at date x would definitely support the price of LSK.

What did you calculate?

What? You want me to calculate how much BTC every LSK would get? Serious? You should be able to do simple math like that by yourself.

[s0nix]

Theoretically you could also payout some of the BTC in form of a dividend: Every LSK gets xx.xx BTC

Who can pay off BTC

Whoever holds the 14.000 ICO-BTCs.

why?

Why not? I am sure the Lisk owners would appreciate to get some share of those BTCs paid out. Its highly questionable if those 16mio$ will ever be fully used in a productive and value enhancing way. Also a dividend at date x would definitely support the price of LSK.

What did you calculate?

What? You want me to calculate how much BTC every LSK would get? Serious? You should be able to do simple math like that by yourself.

I do not know how you get to such amounts.

Here are the facts: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:

- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes

Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:

- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)

I don't see 14k BTC. But I see a good and transparent overview and a description for what that is.
And to the Byteball everything is said so far.

[ImI]

Theoretically you could also payout some of the BTC in form of a dividend: Every LSK gets xx.xx BTC

Who can pay off BTC

Whoever holds the 14.000 ICO-BTCs.

why?

Why not? I am sure the Lisk owners would appreciate to get some share of those BTCs paid out. Its highly questionable if those 16mio$ will ever be fully used in a productive and value enhancing way. Also a dividend at date x would definitely support the price of LSK.

What did you calculate?

What? You want me to calculate how much BTC every LSK would get? Serious? You should be able to do simple math like that by yourself.

I do not know how you get to such amounts.

Here are the facts: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:

- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes

Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:

- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)

I don't see 14k BTC. But I see a good and transparent overview and a description for what that is.
And to the Byteball everything is said so far.

OK, its not 14k BTC its 10,943.958646 BTC.

That changes not much. You could still payout lets say 5000 BTC as a dividend to LSK holders and would still be able to comfortably run the further development. 

[metropolit]

nice observation from breeze

Lisk dpos system definitely need some changes, more people should participate for the same reward and mafia crap like you get money if you vote for me etc should be forbidden. it's shameless corruption i guess corruption in Africa is less visible than this shit that we have.

[s0nix]

Theoretically you could also payout some of the BTC in form of a dividend: Every LSK gets xx.xx BTC

Who can pay off BTC

Whoever holds the 14.000 ICO-BTCs.

why?

Why not? I am sure the Lisk owners would appreciate to get some share of those BTCs paid out. Its highly questionable if those 16mio$ will ever be fully used in a productive and value enhancing way. Also a dividend at date x would definitely support the price of LSK.

What did you calculate?

What? You want me to calculate how much BTC every LSK would get? Serious? You should be able to do simple math like that by yourself.

I do not know how you get to such amounts.

Here are the facts: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

As of the 21st February 2017 at 6:30pm CET, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:

- 572,377.69 CHF
- 517,653.10 EUR
- 10,943.958646 BTC
- 4,407,448.78 LSK
- 19,863,230,659,049 bytes

Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:

- 3,926,049.87211678 LSK (Bounties)
- 771,745.97898046 LSK (Advisers)

I don't see 14k BTC. But I see a good and transparent overview and a description for what that is.
And to the Byteball everything is said so far.

OK, its not 14k BTC its 10,943.958646 BTC.

That changes not much. You could still payout lets say 5000 BTC as a dividend to LSK holders and would still be able to comfortably run the further development. 

Lol
Lisk has 10.9k BTC and you mean, the Foundation can distribute just as 5000 BTC - so simple. Haha
This is for the development of a future project over the next years! Do you really think investors have put money into Lisk, so that Lisk distributes this money again?

[s0nix]

nice observation from breeze

Lisk dpos system definitely need some changes, more people should participate for the same reward and mafia crap like you get money if you vote for me etc should be forbidden. it's shameless corruption i guess corruption in Africa is less visible than this shit that we have.

Lisk devs and community has been thinking about it for a while.
The dpos changes are currently not in top-focus because SDK is more important. But they will come.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/issues/353

[nyanhtet]

OK, its not 14k BTC its 10,943.958646 BTC.

That changes not much. You could still payout lets say 5000 BTC as a dividend to LSK holders and would still be able to comfortably run the further development. 

It made no sense Mr.Legendary. No investors will fund more for Lisk if BTC down to $200. It is their luck. Their ICO funds access denied 1yr for legal reasons and BTC rise to $ 1100. And their is no agreement during ICO for this. And they are still using as Lisk development. All are transparency. You are just jealous here. Because other projects that you suppose may be already sold out ICO fund at cheap. If you want that kind of business, you have another project like Iconomi. Buy and wait their dividend.

[ImI]

Lisk has 10.9k BTC and you mean, the Foundation can distribute just as 5000 BTC - so simple. Hah

Never said it necessarily going to be simple.

This is for the development of a future project over the next years! Do you really think investors have put money into Lisk, so that Lisk distributes this money again?

Lisk i a perfect example of an overfunded project, especially now since the value of the BTC in custody have risen like x3. I state that for the success (or eventual failure) of this enterprise it makes absolutely ZERO difference if the foundation holds 10.9k BTC or 6k BTC. Having money is one thing bringing all that money to being productive and earning actual positive net-value is a completely different thing. And not necessarily one that equals more money = more success.

Otherwise you could go to some idiot and give him 10m$ and go: Hey make some more money out of that!

But that's obv not how that stuff works.

I myself dont hold any Lisk nor do i have any other interest in Lisk. Just wanted to bring up an idea as i saw someone mentioned a buyback program, which is essentially very similar to paying out a dividend.

Just enriching your little discussion here, thats all, as i am under the impression that most folks in here have zero understanding of basic financials and economics.

[ImI]

OK, its not 14k BTC its 10,943.958646 BTC.

That changes not much. You could still payout lets say 5000 BTC as a dividend to LSK holders and would still be able to comfortably run the further development. 

It made no sense Mr.Legendary. No investors will fund more for Lisk if BTC down to $200. It is their luck. Their ICO funds access denied 1yr for legal reasons and BTC rise to $ 1100. And their is no agreement during ICO for this. And they are still using as Lisk development. All are transparency. You are just jealous here. Because other projects that you suppose may be already sold out ICO fund at cheap. If you want that kind of business, you have another project like Iconomi. Buy and wait their dividend.

You mean i am jealous for that i took part in the ICO and sold in average at 0.001 BTC while the price is at the moment at 0.00015? 

[sadasa]

What was the exact number of btc's lisk raised?