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February 25, 2017, 02:34:38 PM |
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What was the exact number of btc's lisk raised?
14.000
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sadasa
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February 25, 2017, 02:37:25 PM |
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What was the exact number of btc's lisk raised?
14.000 Thanks, is there a break down how they have manged to use over 3000btc? This shit is going to get milked by them and people are going to sit and cheer them all the way to their German fiat banks.
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s0nix
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February 25, 2017, 02:39:02 PM |
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Lisk has 10.9k BTC and you mean, the Foundation can distribute just as 5000 BTC - so simple. Hah
Never said it necessarily going to be simple. This is for the development of a future project over the next years! Do you really think investors have put money into Lisk, so that Lisk distributes this money again?
Lisk i a perfect example of an overfunded project, especially now since the value of the BTC in custody have risen like x3. I state that for the success (or eventual failure) of this enterprise it makes absolutely ZERO difference if the foundation holds 10.9k BTC or 6k BTC. Having money is one thing bringing all that money to being productive and earning actual positive net-value is a completely different thing. And not necessarily one that equals more money = more success. Otherwise you could go to some idiot and give him 10m$ and go: Hey make some more money out of that! But that's obv not how that stuff works. I myself dont hold any Lisk nor do i have any other interest in Lisk. Just wanted to bring up an idea as i saw someone mentioned a buyback program, which is essentially very similar to paying out a dividend. Just enriching your little discussion here, thats all, as i am under the impression that most folks in here have zero experience of basic financials and economics. Overfunded is also just a way of looking, I think. If an investor has given $ 100,000 during the ICO than not without reason. I've never seen such a discussion in the Iconomi thread or at Waves or elsewhere, where people say "Please share half of the ICO money again". But okay, you're right with the statement it's possible to make a dividend program. But what happens if the Bitcoin falls again next year and the financial resources shrink? Should the Holders then return their dividends? And what about legal aspects - non-profit foundation? It's all easy to say, but definitely not so easy to make.
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ImI
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February 25, 2017, 02:45:17 PM |
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But okay, you're right with the statement it's possible to make a dividend program. But what happens if the Bitcoin falls again next year and the financial resources shrink? Should the Holders then return their dividends?
Yes, thats a valid concern. To reduce the risk of a collapsing price of BTC one would have to sell the remaining BTC and keep them in Fiat. And what about legal aspects - non-profit foundation?
Yes, that's the most crucial part: Would the foundation be able to do something like that under swiss law? It's all easy to say, but definitely not so easy to make.
Agree. Was just some food for thought.
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nyanhtet
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February 25, 2017, 02:45:36 PM |
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OK, its not 14k BTC its 10,943.958646 BTC.
That changes not much. You could still payout lets say 5000 BTC as a dividend to LSK holders and would still be able to comfortably run the further development.
It made no sense Mr.Legendary. No investors will fund more for Lisk if BTC down to $200. It is their luck. Their ICO funds access denied 1yr for legal reasons and BTC rise to $ 1100. And their is no agreement during ICO for this. And they are still using as Lisk development. All are transparency. You are just jealous here. Because other projects that you suppose may be already sold out ICO fund at cheap. If you want that kind of business, you have another project like Iconomi. Buy and wait their dividend. You mean i am jealous for that i took part in the ICO and sold in average at 0.001 BTC while the price is at the moment at 0.00015? Look at your words, then respond for my reply. And point me some ICO who did like you said. The real solution is these funds need to spend well for Lisk development with transparency. I myself dont hold any Lisk nor do i have any other interest in Lisk.
Sure, you are just jealous here. Someone who failed ICO or someone sold ICO funds at cheap or someone who suppose the project that already sold out ICO funds at cheap.
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nyanhtet
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February 25, 2017, 02:48:13 PM |
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What was the exact number of btc's lisk raised?
14.000 Thanks, is there a break down how they have manged to use over 3000btc? This shit is going to get milked by them and people are going to sit and cheer them all the way to their German fiat banks. You missed something. They will liquidate till 10000BTC left. And You can see as their fiat amount.
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ImI
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February 25, 2017, 02:52:11 PM |
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Sure, you are just jealous here. Someone who failed ICO or someone sold ICO funds at cheap or someone who suppose the project that already sold out ICO funds at cheap.
What should someone possibly be jealous here? Seriously. Its quite the opposite, one could feel compassionate for anyone holding Lisk tightly for the last 10 months.
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nyanhtet
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February 25, 2017, 03:02:29 PM |
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Sure, you are just jealous here. Someone who failed ICO or someone sold ICO funds at cheap or someone who suppose the project that already sold out ICO funds at cheap.
What should someone possibly be jealous here? Seriously. Its quite the opposite, one could feel compassionate for anyone holding Lisk tightly for the last 10 months. We discussing here about your words, not about Lisk price. I know it is ATL as BTC. As a legendary, you should know it is also BTC effect. And the solution is need to release good valuable product as SDK. Not payback ICO funds.
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February 25, 2017, 03:03:04 PM |
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Sure, you are just jealous here. Someone who failed ICO or someone sold ICO funds at cheap or someone who suppose the project that already sold out ICO funds at cheap.
What should someone possibly be jealous here? Seriously. Its quite the opposite, one could feel compassionate for anyone holding Lisk tightly for the last 10 months. agreed. i feel like an idiot for believing in LSK. that being said, i have no choice but to hold for the next year.. hopefully we can get back to 40k sats and ima dump all over polo
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Virtum
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February 25, 2017, 03:35:41 PM |
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List of pools Pools from top, who pay:Delegates | Payout | Rank | Link | lisk_pool_com | 85% | 1 | | thepool | 75% | 2 | | robinhood | 90% | 3 | | liskpool.top | 90% | 4 | | shinekami | 85% | 8 | | bioly | 20% | 76 | | Pools that hasn't gone in top yet:Delegates | Payout | Rank | Link | lisk_pool_com 02-20 | 85% | 106 | | olejegcord | 75% | 107 | | friartuck | 85% | 126 | | adliskpool | 75% | 130 | | lisk.pool.sexy | 80% | 142 | | blink | 90% | 151 | | poolfor.us | 85% | 159 | |
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February 25, 2017, 03:42:53 PM |
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polo is down? pending payout since 1 day
Not really down. But since yesterday there are many reports about problems on Poloniex. So open a new support ticket with your transaction ID, link to the explorer et cetera. And then you must have patience, 24 - 48 hours for an answer. A short feedback. The LSK deposit amout are now displayed on my account at Poloniex, after two days. However, no response from Polo to my support ticket... zzzzz.
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s0nix
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February 25, 2017, 03:57:39 PM |
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Sure, you are just jealous here. Someone who failed ICO or someone sold ICO funds at cheap or someone who suppose the project that already sold out ICO funds at cheap.
What should someone possibly be jealous here? Seriously. Its quite the opposite, one could feel compassionate for anyone holding Lisk tightly for the last 10 months. Okay. But this chart you can mirror with another anon currency. Then you will see, it has nothing to say if you have patience one to two years.
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February 25, 2017, 04:45:11 PM |
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in 5 years of being in crypto, I think i've never seen so much FUD. it's amazing here... like a non-stop gangbang from greedy/jealous/frustrated kids I think, to some extent, it's fun to FUD the weak hands and to check what to bottom may be for this coin but it's flabbergasting to see so many hyprocrits nerds continuously attacking (seriously, on that bunch of bct accounts, how many are own by the same owners?) really looking like a fud campaign because i've noticed few accounts posting here from known twitter 'superhero wannabe-gods' day traders.
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February 25, 2017, 04:55:20 PM |
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What was the exact number of btc's lisk raised?
14.000 Thanks, is there a break down how they have manged to use over 3000btc? This shit is going to get milked by them and people are going to sit and cheer them all the way to their German fiat banks. U gotta realize one day that those numbers aint real. The ico addy was filled with fake bitcoins, most of them are not part of the real contributions. There is plethora of heavy bastards with money all over this land, and they can use their own money to imitate real activity in the crowdfunding as if that money is raised organically.
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s0nix
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February 25, 2017, 05:05:35 PM |
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The ico addy was filled with fake bitcoins
Lol. Every day you FUD guys invented a new nonsense. #alternativefacts
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February 25, 2017, 05:16:17 PM |
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February 25, 2017, 05:29:57 PM |
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List of pools Pools from top, who pay:Delegates | Payout | Rank | Link | lisk_pool_com | 85% | 1 | | thepool | 75% | 2 | | robinhood | 90% | 3 | | liskpool.top | 90% | 4 | | shinekami | 85% | 8 | | bioly | 20% | 76 | | Pools that hasn't gone in top yet:Delegates | Payout | Rank | Link | lisk_pool_com 02-20 | 85% | 106 | | olejegcord | 75% | 107 | | friartuck | 85% | 126 | | adliskpool | 75% | 130 | | lisk.pool.sexy | 80% | 142 | | blink | 90% | 151 | | poolfor.us | 85% | 159 | | The liskpool3 need only ~390K votes! liskpool_com_03 104 6.28 % 0.39 %
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selflover
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February 25, 2017, 05:36:08 PM |
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The liskpool3 need only ~390K votes! liskpool_com_03 104 6.28 % 0.39 % 15 hours processing on poloniex.....
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s0nix
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February 25, 2017, 06:30:43 PM |
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The liskpool3 need only ~390K votes! liskpool_com_03 104 6.28 % 0.39 %
Why you vote for this liskpool_com_xx. All these 19 _com pools are operated by one person. And his profit is 15% x 19
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BitBanksy
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February 25, 2017, 06:36:45 PM |
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Oh dear shill. I spend just 15-30 minutes in day for comments during the tea party... And that's the way you spend your free time? Talking about crypto?!? Oh dear... what a boring life...
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