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February 07, 2016, 02:27:27 PM
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A lot of people have an opinion about Bitcoin as something shady, something for the criminals. Where has this come from?  Bitcoin is a rather new and exciting thing and also because of its pseudo anonymous qualities it will naturally attract the attention of people with shady intentions. Criminals may find this a great way for moving funds fast and your name will not be attached to the transaction.
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February 07, 2016, 02:36:38 PM
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Everything is/can be used for illegal activities. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. How about making illegal all baseball bats because there are people that are using them to hurt people not just to play baseball. It's ridiculous.

No but you gotta admit that bitcoin is especially well designed for illegal and or immoral purposes...

For the same reason it's a lot used in scams, it's probably used in weapons traffics and or prostituion/drugs.

Just because it's an easy way to transfer value anonimously.

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February 07, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
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Yes it has that's why it has a bad name in the news and all.
I think it happens with all currencies so that's just bullshit, but yeah it is.
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February 07, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
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I don't think BTC could ever match the US $ at that game. I remember reading once that 50% of all $20 bills have been used to take cocaine!

Besides, BTC's total market cap is only $6 billions. The money spent on drugs each single day is more than that.

In jails, people fight with kitchen forks, so just about anything can be used for illegal activities.

I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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February 07, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
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Everything is/can be used for illegal activities. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. How about making illegal all baseball bats because there are people that are using them to hurt people not just to play baseball. It's ridiculous.

No but you gotta admit that bitcoin is especially well designed for illegal and or immoral purposes...

For the same reason it's a lot used in scams, it's probably used in weapons traffics and or prostituion/drugs.

Just because it's an easy way to transfer value anonimously.

To be honest there are other altcoins which provides much better anonymity than Bitcoin. Anonymity is not Bitcoin main feature.

Bitcoin main feature is decentralized public ledger which is just pseudoanonymous.

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February 07, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
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I think they have moved on to other types of coins such as drk
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February 07, 2016, 05:04:02 PM
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Everything is/can be used for illegal activities. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. How about making illegal all baseball bats because there are people that are using them to hurt people not just to play baseball. It's ridiculous.

No but you gotta admit that bitcoin is especially well designed for illegal and or immoral purposes...

For the same reason it's a lot used in scams, it's probably used in weapons traffics and or prostituion/drugs.

Just because it's an easy way to transfer value anonimously.

To be honest there are other altcoins which provides much better anonymity than Bitcoin. Anonymity is not Bitcoin main feature.

Bitcoin main feature is decentralized public ledger which is just pseudoanonymous.


Yeah but this light anonymity is enough for them!
I mean you're saying not real anonymity, but you can't get tracked down through bitcoin unless you go through exchange and provide ID proofs!
But even then, you'd just have to provide falsificated proofs and get all the cash you want.
Bitcoin is far enough anonymous but also provides much more stability and value than any of those altcoins Smiley

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February 07, 2016, 05:14:29 PM
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Yep, bitcoin is definitely used for illegal activities.  But as Lauda and others have pointed out, cash has been used for these same purposes for centuries.  Every dollar and cent in your pocket has probably been used to buy drugs or weapons and everything else at some point, so this is not an issue that really should affect bitcoin. 

I say should, because the press thinks it's got the scoop of the century by reporting shit like this.

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February 07, 2016, 11:07:24 PM
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Everything is/can be used for illegal activities. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. How about making illegal all baseball bats because there are people that are using them to hurt people not just to play baseball. It's ridiculous.


yeah i spot you .many people is bitcoin being for illegal activities same like many people use dollar. they buy drugs , heroin and same people are using bitcoin illegal activities

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February 07, 2016, 11:09:50 PM
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It likely is, but so is almost every other country, I highly doubt the majority of Bitcoin transactions are due to illegal activities.
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February 07, 2016, 11:11:04 PM
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no, bitcoin is not used for any illegal activities.
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February 07, 2016, 11:32:03 PM
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no, bitcoin is not used for any illegal activities.

Really? Than what about these news?

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/jan/28/bitcoin-darknet-online-child-abuse-financial-sector
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/14/paedophiles-sell-child-abuse-images-for-bitcoin

and many many more than just these two sad examples, of bitcoin used for illegal things.

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February 07, 2016, 11:49:14 PM
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no, bitcoin is not used for any illegal activities.

Really? Than what about these news?

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/jan/28/bitcoin-darknet-online-child-abuse-financial-sector
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/14/paedophiles-sell-child-abuse-images-for-bitcoin

and many many more than just these two sad examples, of bitcoin used for illegal things.


YES, over 80% from BTC is dark market (ponzi, cloud mining, so called forex, drugs, guns, stolen credit cards/IDs, hackers are paid through Bitcoin). Even the most of the exchangers are part of the black market.

YES, those unlicensed exchangers like: Bitstamp, BTC CHina, OKcoin, Huobi, Kraken, BTC-e and many others are BLACK MARKET because they are doing illegal exchanges without being licensed for that. Smiley
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February 07, 2016, 11:51:28 PM
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Yes it is.... One of the main uses for BTC at the moment is obviously for buying drugs.
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February 07, 2016, 11:54:05 PM
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no, bitcoin is not used for any illegal activities.

Really? Than what about these news?

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/jan/28/bitcoin-darknet-online-child-abuse-financial-sector
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/14/paedophiles-sell-child-abuse-images-for-bitcoin

and many many more than just these two sad examples, of bitcoin used for illegal things.


YES, over 80% from BTC is dark market (ponzi, cloud mining, so called forex, drugs, guns, stolen credit cards/IDs, hackers are paid through Bitcoin). Even the most of the exchangers are part of the black market.

YES, those unlicensed exchangers like: Bitstamp, BTC CHina, OKcoin, Huobi, Kraken, BTC-e and many others are BLACK MARKET because they are doing illegal exchanges without being licensed for that. Smiley

Good point. Not sure it's what most people want to say when talking about "illegal activities" but good point.

Fact is bitcoin is in itself already really close to be illegal. Simply because most countries have no precise legislation concerning it. It's an hybrid currency, a strange thing when it come to legal considerations, and that no matter the country (though I believe USA is a bit ahead here)

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February 08, 2016, 12:26:04 AM
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Yes it is.... One of the main uses for BTC at the moment is obviously for buying drugs.
I think the biggest use for it is gambling and trading but the fact is we need to accept that btc is here to stay and what gave it its foot hold was the darknet. Good or bad it has helped it get where it is today. I am only here because of a documentary that was basically saying how bad it was because people was buying illegal things with it. So what? The world is not a hunky dory place and the little impact btc has on illegal is almost funny. Its tiny in the schemes of things isnt it?


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February 08, 2016, 07:29:37 AM
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I see more and more acrticles of bitcoin being used for illegal activities
will this hurt bitcoin in the long run , will governments ban this just like they started to do wih paying in cash for some services
to harden the use of illegal , and money laundering

just like normal money, you can use it in various way, including illegal activities
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February 08, 2016, 09:25:15 AM
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I guess that it is very often used for that. But maybe not.
But I think if they use it that we do not know or they are already arrested.
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February 08, 2016, 09:30:26 AM
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We can think about it, we can talk about it. In my oppinion no one who is using Bitcoin for "illegal" activity will openly say this here  Huh
Rumours are rumours, there were some cases in the past where Bitcoin play a role.
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February 08, 2016, 09:36:24 AM
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I see more and more acrticles of bitcoin being used for illegal activities
will this hurt bitcoin in the long run , will governments ban this just like they started to do wih paying in cash for some services
to harden the use of illegal , and money laundering

This is normal. And it will not hurt it. Actually I believe it helps Bitcoin on the long run.
If this surprises you, all (or most) currencies are used also for criminal activities.

The fact you hear about this in news, this helps. Because it's advertising. Because more people will hear about Bitcoin and more people will think it may help them in legal or illegal activities, more people will "give it a shot".
The aim of Bitcoin is to become a coin, i.e. be used by as many people as possible. (And secondarily, this will boost Bitcoin price too.)

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