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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... The current bankroll of moneypot is very large and it is enough to support highroller if they feel like wanting to go big from the start of the game. Betterbets are giving away around 80% of their profit from volume to the rubies stakeholder monthly, regardless if there casino is losing or making money so if they are switching to their own bankroll then it is not possible for them to do this again Ps Im not sure if it is 80% or all of it though thanks for another sig posting Moneypot's BR is very large but never large enough = the larger the better are you saying that a casino like BB giving away 80% of their profit should not have their own BR? no need for you to answer because I know the answer already and I saw your sig an answer from BB would be acceptable because they know better
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July 27, 2016, 06:18:39 AM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... The current bankroll of moneypot is very large and it is enough to support highroller if they feel like wanting to go big from the start of the game. Betterbets are giving away around 80% of their profit from volume to the rubies stakeholder monthly, regardless if there casino is losing or making money so if they are switching to their own bankroll then it is not possible for them to do this again Ps Im not sure if it is 80% or all of it though thanks for another sig posting Moneypot's BR is very large but never large enough = the larger the better are you saying that a casino like BB giving away 80% of their profit should not have their own BR? no need for you to answer because I know the answer already and I saw your sig an answer from BB would be acceptable because they know better You are as stupid as you used to be , thankyou for the laugh anyway. You should take a look at their previous offer for 40 spots of rubies stakeholder in exchange for their profit . If they are using their own bankroll, they will not be getting anything from volume so they cant guarantee monthly profit for their stakeholders. As of now, they are down by 42 btc, by using your stupid logic they wont be able to give some monthly profit for their stakeholder if they are using their own bankroll which means they are not getting anything from volume generated for moneypot
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July 27, 2016, 06:34:37 AM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... The current bankroll of moneypot is very large and it is enough to support highroller if they feel like wanting to go big from the start of the game. Betterbets are giving away around 80% of their profit from volume to the rubies stakeholder monthly, regardless if there casino is losing or making money so if they are switching to their own bankroll then it is not possible for them to do this again Ps Im not sure if it is 80% or all of it though AFAIK it is 80% of mothly profit will be paid to the investors for 1 year (or until it covers the invested money) yes currently not possible for them to have their own bankroll as of now but once they are done paying the RBIES investors then it is possible that they can cover atleast half of the bets on BB
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July 27, 2016, 06:38:33 AM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... The current bankroll of moneypot is very large and it is enough to support highroller if they feel like wanting to go big from the start of the game. Betterbets are giving away around 80% of their profit from volume to the rubies stakeholder monthly, regardless if there casino is losing or making money so if they are switching to their own bankroll then it is not possible for them to do this again Ps Im not sure if it is 80% or all of it though thanks for another sig posting Moneypot's BR is very large but never large enough = the larger the better are you saying that a casino like BB giving away 80% of their profit should not have their own BR? no need for you to answer because I know the answer already and I saw your sig an answer from BB would be acceptable because they know better You are as stupid as you used to be , thankyou for the laugh anyway. You should take a look at their previous offer for 40 spots of rubies stakeholder in exchange for their profit . If they are using their own bankroll, they will not be getting anything from volume so they cant guarantee monthly profit for their stakeholders. As of now, they are down by 42 btc, by using your stupid logic they wont be able to give some monthly profit for their stakeholder if they are using their own bankroll which means they are not getting anything from volume generated for moneypot thnx for confirming that yo are the BB owner (rofl)
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July 27, 2016, 07:22:17 AM |
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So I just invested a small amount in the bankroll ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not sure if this has been answered already or not but can you change the kelly of the investment or is it all 1x? It is all 1x here. Other places offer leverage ... I've been happy here, more or less. Ok thanks for clarifying that. I will be spreading some btc across a range of these invest sites to see how they go and minimize my downside if some collapse.
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July 27, 2016, 12:34:35 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets.
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July 27, 2016, 12:41:19 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all?
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July 27, 2016, 01:05:59 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding
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July 27, 2016, 01:09:58 PM Last edit: July 27, 2016, 01:53:29 PM by JackpotRacer |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. but why to wait for it to happen that is my question]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444 but why to wait for it to happen that is my question [/url] I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding edit sorry posted in quote the answer s here [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444
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July 27, 2016, 01:48:13 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. the answer s here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444
but why to wait for it to happen that is my question
I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding Stopping the feature wont stop an apps from offering the game with their own bankroll. They could easily split themselves up from moneypot and do it however the answer for your question has been listed as well in accoin's post This is not an issue whatsoever, if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C.
So there is still a good chance that if an apps do it, it might turns out to be good for MP as well. It might offer more gambler to try out the site which of course benefit the other apps as well
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July 27, 2016, 02:54:19 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. the answer s here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444
but why to wait for it to happen that is my question
I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding Stopping the feature wont stop an apps from offering the game with their own bankroll. They could easily split themselves up from moneypot and do it however the answer for your question has been listed as well in accoin's post This is not an issue whatsoever, if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C.
So there is still a good chance that if an apps do it, it might turns out to be good for MP as well. It might offer more gambler to try out the site which of course benefit the other apps as well It is good that MP acknowledge and keep a lookout for any potential problems. It is great that the MP is ready to deal with such issues, but be careful when changing the T&C. There are some people that may pick on MP to accuse them of 'cheating' as when it is good for them, they never do anything but when it is bad for them, they turned the rules to continue to benefit them.
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July 27, 2016, 03:04:28 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. the answer s here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444
but why to wait for it to happen that is my question
I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding Stopping the feature wont stop an apps from offering the game with their own bankroll. They could easily split themselves up from moneypot and do it however the answer for your question has been listed as well in accoin's post This is not an issue whatsoever, if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C.
So there is still a good chance that if an apps do it, it might turns out to be good for MP as well. It might offer more gambler to try out the site which of course benefit the other apps as well It is good that MP acknowledge and keep a lookout for any potential problems. It is great that the MP is ready to deal with such issues, but be careful when changing the T&C. There are some people that may pick on MP to accuse them of 'cheating' as when it is good for them, they never do anything but when it is bad for them, they turned the rules to continue to benefit them. Is this means that you are telling them to shut down those features as well right now instead of trying to change their T&C when there is a problem regarding this in the future? well I can say one thing with certainty though, if someone is planning to bankroll his own site , he probably will not be using moneypot again but instead build everything on his own
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July 27, 2016, 03:45:53 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. the answer s here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366689.msg15721444#msg15721444
but why to wait for it to happen that is my question
I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding Stopping the feature wont stop an apps from offering the game with their own bankroll. They could easily split themselves up from moneypot and do it however the answer for your question has been listed as well in accoin's post This is not an issue whatsoever, if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C.
So there is still a good chance that if an apps do it, it might turns out to be good for MP as well. It might offer more gambler to try out the site which of course benefit the other apps as well It is good that MP acknowledge and keep a lookout for any potential problems. It is great that the MP is ready to deal with such issues, but be careful when changing the T&C. There are some people that may pick on MP to accuse them of 'cheating' as when it is good for them, they never do anything but when it is bad for them, they turned the rules to continue to benefit them. Is this means that you are telling them to shut down those features as well right now instead of trying to change their T&C when there is a problem regarding this in the future? well I can say one thing with certainty though, if someone is planning to bankroll his own site , he probably will not be using moneypot again but instead build everything on his own I dont think shutting down is a good option. I also dont think that changing the T&C is a wrong thing. But it is about the process of changing. If it is not done well, and some irritating people will hug on to it, and bring unnecessary flare to it.
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July 27, 2016, 03:52:49 PM |
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We have no plans to self bankroll bitcoin, our integration with Moneypot is now well over a year old, and our interests are aligned with theirs in terms of player security and collaboration on current and future business. On top of that we have stakeholders now and their contract is not finished for another 20+ months and their dividends are based off the MP model.
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July 27, 2016, 03:58:08 PM |
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We have no plans to self bankroll bitcoin, our integration with Moneypot is now well over a year old, and our interests are aligned with theirs in terms of player security and collaboration on current and future business. On top of that we have stakeholders now and their contract is not finished for another 20+ months and their dividends are based off the MP model.
Betterbets, no worries. I have played at your site because i believe in you. i hope that betterbets have been doing very well as i am very excited about how you all carry out the stakeholders plan and i hope things will be even better from here onwards.
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July 27, 2016, 06:38:47 PM |
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if apps ever start deciding to do this and it affects MoneyPot's volume we will simply change our T&C ...
Ok thank you. I'm a little surprised that Betterbets at least has not done this yet. I think if MP and certain app/casinos really grow and profits accumulate, some of the larger apps/casinos will take a look at bankrolling some of their own action. First world problems I guess ... I speak with Bjorn pretty frequently.. I can say with 99.99% confidence that BetterBets will never self bankroll for BTC bets. I don't think that this is the question if BB would do it or not. if MP does not like that any app will do this why not shut down this option and not offer it at all? How can mp stops it if the app won't send them the bets? The app owner can choose if they want to send bets to mp or not, its just the matter of coding It would be pretty simple, if we cut off an app's access to our API, our users won't be able to log into the site. Again, if a lot of apps ever started to decide doing this we would change our T&C, and give app owners a heads up. As it stands, MoneyPot's volume is not being affected in anyway and it is extremely unlikely that it will ever become an issue in the slightest. If there are anymore questions about this, please send me a PM instead of posting here, the past 2 pages of this thread have now been spent on addressing this. Cheers
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July 27, 2016, 07:44:43 PM |
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If there are anymore questions about this, please send me a PM instead of posting here, the past 2 pages of this thread have now been spent on addressing this. Cheers No questions, promise! But I started this discussion and I think an important point has been missed, namely this: MP's policy of offering apps flexibility in directing only a portion of their bets to the MP bankroll is very positive in my view. Keep in mind MP's primary objective is to grow bet volume. They can do this in one of two ways: A. Help attract traffic to the existing portfolio of MP apps, or B. Bring in more, ideally distinctive or innovative apps. Now think about that. There are surely established 'casino' type sites out there who are bankrolling their own small pikers, but who are missing out on the whales who are simply too big for them. That is MP's pitch: link up with us, keep bankrolling your small bets, and let us enable your larger action. Pretty compelling I would think. We all want MP to be offering this, and we all hope it works, to help grow the platform. That said, bankroll investors should be made aware when app owners begin utilizing this option in a meaningful way. MP said they will tell us, and I believe them.
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July 28, 2016, 12:11:46 AM |
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If there are anymore questions about this, please send me a PM instead of posting here, the past 2 pages of this thread have now been spent on addressing this. Cheers No questions, promise! But I started this discussion and I think an important point has been missed, namely this: MP's policy of offering apps flexibility in directing only a portion of their bets to the MP bankroll is very positive in my view. Keep in mind MP's primary objective is to grow bet volume. They can do this in one of two ways: A. Help attract traffic to the existing portfolio of MP apps, or B. Bring in more, ideally distinctive or innovative apps. Now think about that. There are surely established 'casino' type sites out there who are bankrolling their own small pikers, but who are missing out on the whales who are simply too big for them. That is MP's pitch: link up with us, keep bankrolling your small bets, and let us enable your larger action. Pretty compelling I would think. We all want MP to be offering this, and we all hope it works, to help grow the platform. That said, bankroll investors should be made aware when app owners begin utilizing this option in a meaningful way. MP said they will tell us, and I believe them. We are fine with apps doing this at the moment (even though they are choosing not to): The key is if it ever became an issue (i.e. MoneyPot ever started losing big volume).
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Added to the MoneyPot.com site BtcDragon , classic Plinko, the game you all know and love !!
We will be adding comp's , faucet is up and running , come chat and play , win up to x999!!
4 games and even edit your own game !!
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July 31, 2016, 04:04:24 PM |
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Added to the MoneyPot.com site BtcDragon , classic Plinko, the game you all know and love !!
We will be adding comp's , faucet is up and running , come chat and play , win up to x999!!
4 games and even edit your own game !!
do you have an app address cause I could not find it good luck
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