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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn:
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March 22, 2016, 05:54:12 PM |
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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn: If there is not enough power spread on pools,this could happen one more time?
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March 22, 2016, 05:58:39 PM |
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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn: If there is not enough power spread on pools,this could happen one more time? yes if someone wants to spend a couple thousand dollars, its possible. btw: c-bits blockchain looks fine now.
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March 22, 2016, 06:15:09 PM |
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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn: If there is not enough power spread on pools,this could happen one more time? yes if someone wants to spend a couple thousand dollars, its possible. btw: c-bits blockchain looks fine now. yup checked it yesterday and it was a strict ~10min/block hope good news will be posted here with enthousiasm like Martins58 did before
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March 22, 2016, 06:21:01 PM |
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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn: fool look at these blocks (diff = 1.0 )===> 54950 2016-03-22 17:01:46 2 990 1.0 27475500 68.5573 30.4018% 54949 2016-03-22 16:41:34 2 990 1.0 27475000 68.5433 30.4289% 54948 2016-03-22 16:21:23 2 990.01024709 1.0 27474500 68.5293 30.4561% per : http://cryptobe.com/chain/CBit==================== what else do you call this?>>> could it be a classic timewarp type attack ...hmmm ?
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March 22, 2016, 08:43:48 PM |
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C-bit is currently deciding on what to do about the coins and its’ own future.
We are discussing matters relating to the unusual pattern observed in our hash rate between Wednesday of last week, where a gradual increase in our hash rate from 600-700 TH to 4-5 PH occurred over 36 hours ( this was done gradually so as not to affect the difficulty rating ) and then was suddenly and instantly removed at 12:00 noon EST on Friday of last week just before the difficulty was to reset from 40 Million; which then set in motion the collapse of the hash rate over the weekend.
Then on Sunday morning at appx 9:00 AM EST, when the hash rate had collapsed aprox 98% from Friday’s Peak , C-bit’s mining pools had dropped to about 200 TH, and the difficulty level had reset from around 40 million at Friday’s peak to 2 million, a sudden mining onslaught of 2-3 PH began. Although this might not sound like terribly much; however, coming from such a small hash rate base and against a new small difficulty rating, its like a nuclear bomb going off. This mining blast lasted thru early Monday morning ( about 36 hours ), which resulted in the basic destruction of the C-bit system. The blast of mining was designed to last just long enough to take advantage of the difficulty reset of C-bit. The difficulty level has since reset upward and the miners have quit. At one point during this onslaught, the source code was actually mining into the future by up to 8 hours, which we all know is impossible; unless, of course, one is a hacker using a bug in the code and the vulnerability of the system against us. We have proven this to be the case with the attack over the week-end on C-bit : a deliberate full-frontal crash of our system and resulting doubling of our system’s coins.
Understand, this was not a weekend guy out for a stroll. This was a deliberate act of violence against C-bit. Considering the price of our coins, and the illiquidity of the coins, there is no plausible reason for amassing The quantity of coins gained in the attack, other than pure maliciousness or intent to destroy.
Raise the bar without raising the difficulty, then pull the legs out from under it. Let the momentum pull it under water, then when the system resets lower, take advantage of it and mine it like crazy. When it resets, like it did last night, stop mining, like they have. When it resets lower again, mine it again. Destroy the coin from within. Use the coin’s low hash rate, low difficulty, and its’ very system against itself. Be enough of the the system, and you own and control the fate of the system. You can drive it into the ground by mining all of the coins. The attacker is using the 51% rule against C-bit very effectively each time the hash rate drops and the difficulty rating resets lower.
It sure seems as though it was well planned to destroy C-bit; or if not to destroy, or planned, at least it can be described as pre-meditated behavior to take advantage of a situation, since no-one could have NOT possibly realized what was happening when you’re watching millions of coins flying by on your screen... and you don't shut your miner OFF; especially if you care about the coin and the community. So, it can ONLY be described as predatory behavior on the part of anyone mining at the time. PERIOD. I would love to hear anyone explain to me with a straight face their reasoning behind the morality of receiving or keeping after-the-fact any of their coins in this situation, EVEN if they spent BTC to mine it. Overall supply reasons also make it hard to justify just shifting coins around to special accounts or just destroying some coins but not others. If the coins stick around, it just creates more drag on the value of the overall coin that shouldn’t exist in the first place, since they weren’t fairly earned. I am not sure if we can just keep destroying coins after each of these attacks, it will get a little silly after awhile.
We also realize that there were innocent by-standers caught up in this weekend’s events. People or miners Who had nothing at all to do with the events swirling around the exploding coins. I, for instance, have an Antminer7 that has been running on a C-bit pool since the beginning. An Antminer7 is a relatively Top-of-the-line Bitcoin miner. Well, I’m sorry, I guess the $ 20 in mining electricity costs over the week- End, that it cost me for the coins I got, will mean that I don’t take my family to McDonalds tonight. My machine is run in an off-site location, managed by a third-party, so I couldn’t just shut it off. Morality reasons dictate that it is awfully difficult for me to justify keeping my coins. Frankly, anyone jumping on the band-wagon over the weekend and paying for a whole bunch of hash power to mine the coins does not have my sympathy.
What we find very interesting with this whole situation is that we can trace the beginning of the recent Cascading of events to last Wednesday morning after the world-wide PR announcement of C-bit. The Gradual ramp-up of PH power can be traced to farms in China. The interesting fact is that we have no record of any interests in either our website or our pools by the Chinese prior to this event; they just showed up, ramped up, then suddenly left right before the difficulty was due to reset. How they knew, we don’t know. They then showed up again after the difficulty reset downward Sunday morning, but with smaller mining power.
The problem that C-bit finds itself in today is the community is shell-shocked. The C-bit pools are now Down to 28 TH as miners sit on the side-lines awaiting the dust to settle. The reasoning behind this is Sound, but the consequences are stark. This sets in motion another cascade of collapsing hash rates and Resetting difficulty levels. Again, this will bring in the malicious predators who will “Wash-Rinse-Repeat” Their behavior against C-bit in a never-ending cycle; which is the very thing they want to happen, and Plan to happen, with C-bit.
Let me repeat. This sets in motion a repeat pattern. Without enough miners supporting C-bit now, because Everyone is shell-shocked, the pattern will continue until there are no more coins to mine. It’s a compete failure of the system due to the 51 % Rule and the attackers know that, and they feed off of that loop. If you look at the source code, you can see what is happening in real time. The attacks will happen again, it’s only a matter of time.
It removes C-bit from the playing field and removes C-bit from the very reason it was created: to help Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Classic resolve their Block-size problem. What was started with good intentions, Is now dazed and confused, wondering what the hell just happened. We can’t help wonder if there is a Connection between the sudden Chinese farming interest, the manipulation of our hash rate, and our sudden destruction. I’ve always hated coincidences -- considering how smoothly everything was running for C-bit in the 5 weeks leading up to last Wednesday and the world-wide announcement of C-bit. We were fine until Wednesday, then destroyed by Sunday.
We will decide what our options are after analyzing who and where the attacks originated from, of which we already have a basic understanding. We will continue debating the future of the mined coins over the past weekend, and the future of C-bit. After this decision, we will let the community know our decision. Hopefully, everyone will agree, no matter how radical our decision turns out to be.
Thanks for your patience.
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C-bit is currently deciding on what to do about the coins and its’ own future.
We are discussing matters relating to the unusual pattern observed in our hash rate between Wednesday of last week, where a gradual increase in our hash rate from 600-700 TH to 4-5 PH occurred over 36 hours ( this was done gradually so as not to affect the difficulty rating ) and then was suddenly and instantly removed at 12:00 noon EST on Friday of last week just before the difficulty was to reset from 40 Million; which then set in motion the collapse of the hash rate over the weekend.
Then on Sunday morning at appx 9:00 AM EST, when the hash rate had collapsed aprox 98% from Friday’s Peak , C-bit’s mining pools had dropped to about 200 TH, and the difficulty level had reset from around 40 million at Friday’s peak to 2 million, a sudden mining onslaught of 2-3 PH began. Although this might not sound like terribly much; however, coming from such a small hash rate base and against a new small difficulty rating, its like a nuclear bomb going off. This mining blast lasted thru early Monday morning ( about 36 hours ), which resulted in the basic destruction of the C-bit system. The blast of mining was designed to last just long enough to take advantage of the difficulty reset of C-bit. The difficulty level has since reset upward and the miners have quit. At one point during this onslaught, the source code was actually mining into the future by up to 8 hours, which we all know is impossible; unless, of course, one is a hacker using a bug in the code and the vulnerability of the system against us. We have proven this to be the case with the attack over the week-end on C-bit : a deliberate full-frontal crash of our system and resulting doubling of our system’s coins.
Understand, this was not a weekend guy out for a stroll. This was a deliberate act of violence against C-bit. Considering the price of our coins, and the illiquidity of the coins, there is no plausible reason for amassing The quantity of coins gained in the attack, other than pure maliciousness or intent to destroy.
Raise the bar without raising the difficulty, then pull the legs out from under it. Let the momentum pull it under water, then when the system resets lower, take advantage of it and mine it like crazy. When it resets, like it did last night, stop mining, like they have. When it resets lower again, mine it again. Destroy the coin from within. Use the coin’s low hash rate, low difficulty, and its’ very system against itself. Be enough of the the system, and you own and control the fate of the system. You can drive it into the ground by mining all of the coins. The attacker is using the 51% rule against C-bit very effectively each time the hash rate drops and the difficulty rating resets lower.
It sure seems as though it was well planned to destroy C-bit; or if not to destroy, or planned, at least it can be described as pre-meditated behavior to take advantage of a situation, since no-one could have NOT possibly realized what was happening when you’re watching millions of coins flying by on your screen... and you don't shut your miner OFF; especially if you care about the coin and the community. So, it can ONLY be described as predatory behavior on the part of anyone mining at the time. PERIOD. I would love to hear anyone explain to me with a straight face their reasoning behind the morality of receiving or keeping after-the-fact any of their coins in this situation, EVEN if they spent BTC to mine it. Overall supply reasons also make it hard to justify just shifting coins around to special accounts or just destroying some coins but not others. If the coins stick around, it just creates more drag on the value of the overall coin that shouldn’t exist in the first place, since they weren’t fairly earned. I am not sure if we can just keep destroying coins after each of these attacks, it will get a little silly after awhile.
We also realize that there were innocent by-standers caught up in this weekend’s events. People or miners Who had nothing at all to do with the events swirling around the exploding coins. I, for instance, have an Antminer7 that has been running on a C-bit pool since the beginning. An Antminer7 is a relatively Top-of-the-line Bitcoin miner. Well, I’m sorry, I guess the $ 20 in mining electricity costs over the week- End, that it cost me for the coins I got, will mean that I don’t take my family to McDonalds tonight. My machine is run in an off-site location, managed by a third-party, so I couldn’t just shut it off. Morality reasons dictate that it is awfully difficult for me to justify keeping my coins. Frankly, anyone jumping on the band-wagon over the weekend and paying for a whole bunch of hash power to mine the coins does not have my sympathy.
What we find very interesting with this whole situation is that we can trace the beginning of the recent Cascading of events to last Wednesday morning after the world-wide PR announcement of C-bit. The Gradual ramp-up of PH power can be traced to farms in China. The interesting fact is that we have no record of any interests in either our website or our pools by the Chinese prior to this event; they just showed up, ramped up, then suddenly left right before the difficulty was due to reset. How they knew, we don’t know. They then showed up again after the difficulty reset downward Sunday morning, but with smaller mining power.
The problem that C-bit finds itself in today is the community is shell-shocked. The C-bit pools are now Down to 28 TH as miners sit on the side-lines awaiting the dust to settle. The reasoning behind this is Sound, but the consequences are stark. This sets in motion another cascade of collapsing hash rates and Resetting difficulty levels. Again, this will bring in the malicious predators who will “Wash-Rinse-Repeat” Their behavior against C-bit in a never-ending cycle; which is the very thing they want to happen, and Plan to happen, with C-bit.
Let me repeat. This sets in motion a repeat pattern. Without enough miners supporting C-bit now, because Everyone is shell-shocked, the pattern will continue until there are no more coins to mine. It’s a compete failure of the system due to the 51 % Rule and the attackers know that, and they feed off of that loop. If you look at the source code, you can see what is happening in real time. The attacks will happen again, it’s only a matter of time.
It removes C-bit from the playing field and removes C-bit from the very reason it was created: to help Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Classic resolve their Block-size problem. What was started with good intentions, Is now dazed and confused, wondering what the hell just happened. We can’t help wonder if there is a Connection between the sudden Chinese farming interest, the manipulation of our hash rate, and our sudden destruction. I’ve always hated coincidences -- considering how smoothly everything was running for C-bit in the 5 weeks leading up to last Wednesday and the world-wide announcement of C-bit. We were fine until Wednesday, then destroyed by Sunday.
We will decide what our options are after analyzing who and where the attacks originated from, of which we already have a basic understanding. We will continue debating the future of the mined coins over the past weekend, and the future of C-bit. After this decision, we will let the community know our decision. Hopefully, everyone will agree, no matter how radical our decision turns out to be.
Thanks for your patience.
the coin is fine ...why you sad about high hashrate? lol imo ~ the glitch is not hashrate related ... i'm talking to bitdevs about the little problem hodl tight bruh
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March 22, 2016, 09:20:54 PM |
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@gembitz So if the attack was a time stamp one and not 51% we can say that toronto held coins must be released because it was no attacker there. Another thing is,watching the block explorer we can say that the attack is not over yet as there are always 1diff blocks generated again and again and if it not will stop,diff will return to 1 one more time
the said [ 51% / timewarp ] is obvious ~ just look @ those 1.0 diff blocks ...stay tuned actually that quote gembitz posted is from 2011 lmao the difficulty went down and then someone mined with a 1+ ph/s rig. there was no timewarp, just a 500% attack.. i looked at the source code, its identical to the newest bitcoin source code. what happened here could happen to bitcoin, if enough hashpower hit it. from what i read, farms do shut off before difficulty retarget and then turn back on when it switches if its lower. 1 difficulty blocks are to make sure that at least 6 blocks get released per hour. if there are only 5 and an hour approaches, a block with a difficulty of 1 is released. :yawn: fool look at these blocks (diff = 1.0 )===> 54950 2016-03-22 17:01:46 2 990 1.0 27475500 68.5573 30.4018% 54949 2016-03-22 16:41:34 2 990 1.0 27475000 68.5433 30.4289% 54948 2016-03-22 16:21:23 2 990.01024709 1.0 27474500 68.5293 30.4561% per : http://cryptobe.com/chain/CBit==================== what else do you call this?>>> could it be a classic timewarp type attack ...hmmm ? you must not have read what i typed/you quoted. the network makes 6 blocks per hour. if it has not done that, and it gets past ten minutes, it makes a block with a difficulty of 1. rofl, definitely not a time warp. see, after block 54948, 20 minutes had gone by, so it released a block with a difficulty of 1. then, at that block, another 20 minutes had gone by, so another block with a difficulty of 1 was released. this is to ensure that 6 blocks are released per hour. its standard per bitcoins 6 blocks per hour rule.
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Smell of a new chain nope just a more well distributed coin! ~ we are all good ! POWER IN NUMBERS!!!!
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Smell of a new chain nope just a more well distributed coin! ~ we are all good ! POWER IN NUMBERS!!!! and how you think it will be done? how they will re-distribute the coins released in nature? just pay everyone out from the pools! lol ~ simple hmm we will see dump i will buy all of them lol do you think I have enough to fill your greed :p :p
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Smell of a new chain nope just a more well distributed coin! ~ we are all good ! POWER IN NUMBERS!!!! and how you think it will be done? how they will re-distribute the coins released in nature? just pay everyone out from the pools! lol ~ simple hmm we will see dump i will buy all of them lol do you think I have enough to fill your greed :p :p i can tell you who i think is minting many coins right now... hodl XCT
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Smell of a new chain nope just a more well distributed coin! ~ we are all good ! POWER IN NUMBERS!!!! and how you think it will be done? how they will re-distribute the coins released in nature? just pay everyone out from the pools! lol ~ simple hmm we will see dump i will buy all of them lol do you think I have enough to fill your greed :p :p i can tell you who i think is minting many coins right now... hodl XCT inlight me buddy who is who
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March 22, 2016, 11:14:11 PM |
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Smell of a new chain nope just a more well distributed coin! ~ we are all good ! POWER IN NUMBERS!!!! and how you think it will be done? how they will re-distribute the coins released in nature? just pay everyone out from the pools! lol ~ simple hmm we will see dump i will buy all of them lol do you think I have enough to fill your greed :p :p i can tell you who i think is minting many coins right now... hodl XCT inlight me buddy who is who looks like we got it figured out...i'll have more clues soon ~hashing away zzz
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what are you guys trying to figure out? it's all pretty clear. there is no mystery here.
someone went on the network with a few ph/s (they've already admitted that here in the thread, also that is alot larger than a 51% attack, its more like a 500% attack)
luckily, they were noobs and mined on low difficulty ports on the c-bit official pools, and it crashed the unomp stratum due to being overwhelmed with shares.
this caused the difficulty to drop since there was alot less hashpower after.
there's about 40th/s on the network right now. the difficulty is climbing back up/adjusting, and its over 9 million. there are 6 blocks being made per hour. a block releases at a difficulty of 1 when it takes too long and gets close to being only 5 blocks in an hour. this is standard in both bitcoin and c-bit, as well as many other coins with a bitcoin codebase.
i don't know why anyone is confused about this.
if you increased the network hashrate by 500% on the bitcoin network, the same thing would happen, but instead of it costing a few thousand dollars, it would cost hundreds of millions. (estimated, i dont feel like doing the math)
the only solution to prevent this from happening again, would be to put more steady hashpower on the network, and/or change the retarget from 2016 blocks (2 weeks) like bitcoin, to something much lower, like a few hours.
as far as what you guys should do with the millions stuck in the pool, that is up to you. personally i would burn it, by sending it to an address that doesnt exist, like 1cbitBURN212h12kjl312jk3jk or something. i certainly wouldnt reward the idiot that did this. i'd assume it was malicious. i can dig up his info and post it here in the thread if thats what the community/devs want.
if anyone needs help, feel free to contact me.
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CryptoRekt
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what are you guys trying to figure out? it's all pretty clear. there is no mystery here.
someone went on the network with a few ph/s (they've already admitted that here in the thread, also that is alot larger than a 51% attack, its more like a 500% attack)
luckily, they were noobs and mined on low difficulty ports on the c-bit official pools, and it crashed the unomp stratum due to being overwhelmed with shares.
this caused the difficulty to drop since there was alot less hashpower after.
there's about 40th/s on the network right now. the difficulty is climbing back up/adjusting, and its over 9 million. there are 6 blocks being made per hour. a block releases at a difficulty of 1 when it takes too long and gets close to being only 5 blocks in an hour. this is standard in both bitcoin and c-bit, as well as many other coins with a bitcoin codebase.
i don't know why anyone is confused about this.
if you increased the network hashrate by 2000% on the bitcoin network, the same thing would happen, but instead of it costing a few thousand dollars, it would cost hundreds of millions. (estimated, i dont feel like doing the math)
the only solution to prevent this from happening again, would be to put more steady hashpower on the network, and/or change the retarget from 2016 blocks (2 weeks) like bitcoin, to something much lower, like a few hours.
as far as what you guys should do with the millions stuck in the pool, that is up to you. personally i would burn it, by sending it to an address that doesnt exist, like 1cbitBURN212h12kjl312jk3jk or something. i certainly wouldnt reward the idiot that did this. i'd assume it was malicious. i can dig up his info and post it here in the thread if thats what the community/devs want.
if anyone needs help, feel free to contact me.
Let me be the first to say this.. Sunerok just -- The shit out of you idiots. Burn the damn coins because clearly no one in this thread (besides maybe a couple of us) are deserving of them - Let's move on from this incident. Cheers-
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