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May 24, 2024, 10:40:39 PM
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2024 F1 Monaco Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (2)
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Time
1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.278s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m11.466s
3   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m11.753s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m11.813s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m11.935s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.962s
7   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m12.062s
8   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m12.099s
9   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m12.257s
10   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m12.260s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m12.349s
12   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m12.366s
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m12.473s
14   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.554s
15   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m12.569s
16   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m12.577s
17   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.750s
18   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m12.790s
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m13.057s
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m13.773s

Ferrari ahead, will it will be time at home for Charles?

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1049044/1/2024-f1-monaco-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

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May 25, 2024, 10:06:54 AM
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Free Practice results still look quite interesting. We still see Hamilton right behind the leader. I wonder if this will reflect on his qualifying performance also. You know qualifying result is one of the most crucial things in Monaco. This is one of the few places where Mercedes can collect big amount of points. Overtaking is too hard as you know.

The current qualifying odds are below, on TrustDice. Leclerc is currently a huge favourite @1.61. I'm definitely going to give him a chance by betting on his pole.  Grin

But it isn't worth for a single bet of course. I would rather bet on Norris to take the pole if I'm going to make a single bet.


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May 25, 2024, 10:41:16 AM
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McLaren can be seen as the prime contender for pole position in the upcoming Formula 1 race,with a notable edge over Red Bull Racing,according to recent insights.Statements from Red Bull's Perez indicate an acknowledgment of being behind,suggesting a challenging outlook for the team.This sentiment positions McLaren as the frontrunner,with Ferrari also looming as a potential competitor and also Mercedes.

In contemplating the prospects,the likelihood of a McLaren driver securing pole position,such as Norris or Piastri,signifies a strong chance of victory in the race.The strategic advantage of starting at the front,providing a clear track ahead,could play a pivotal role in securing success.

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The Marquez brothers did not qualify for Q2 today and had to start the race on grid 13th and 14th for the Sprint today and the full race tomorrow. Meanwhile, Aleix Espargaro with Aprilia again made a surprise by setting a new record with such an amazing time today that it has put him at the front of the grid for the race and Sprint which will take place soon. I'm quite sure that if there are no problems with Aleix Espargaro, he could win or podium today and tomorrow because I see he is really quite stable on his Aprilia motorbike at the Catalunya circuit, Spain.

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May 25, 2024, 01:13:58 PM
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Some line movement in qualifying.  Looks like the books have priced in Leclerc's performance in FP2 and FP3.  He's line is at 1.57 rn with Verstappen behind him at 3.00.  I think there could be value with Verstappen at the current line.  The guy just finds a way to get ahead and be on top above everybody else.  It will be sooo hilarious if he does it.  

Anyway yeah...  Just a quarter of an hour to go guys.  Feeling really excited with this one as the crazy Dutchman is the underdog again. 

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Last hour of free practice has been completed with a super Leclerc in 1st position.
Let's see if he can lead the qualify too, it looks like a fight between him and Max.

Sainz is usually very strong in this track...

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It was very surprising during the Catalunya MotoGP Sprint Race today where Raul Fernandez fell while leading the Sprint, as well as Brad Binder who fell while leading after Raul Fernandez fell. And the same incident also happened to Bagnaia who fell while leading in first place after Brad Binder fell, making Aleix Espargaro the winner of the Sprint today, followed by Marquez in second place. This is really a quite tense Sprint and requires better technique to be able to survive until the end and hopefully tomorrow the race will be much fiercer than today.

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May 25, 2024, 01:33:24 PM
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Last hour of free practice has been completed with a super Leclerc in 1st position.
Let's see if he can lead the qualify too, it looks like a fight between him and Max.

Sainz is usually very strong in this track...

Yes, I believe Charles Leclerc will finish in a good position because it is his home race!! Strong support from all of his Monegasque fans! Hope there will be no inchident on the race.
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It was very surprising during the Catalunya MotoGP Sprint Race today where Raul Fernandez fell while leading the Sprint, as well as Brad Binder who fell while leading after Raul Fernandez fell. And the same incident also happened to Bagnaia who fell while leading in first place after Brad Binder fell, making Aleix Espargaro the winner of the Sprint today, followed by Marquez in second place. This is really a quite tense Sprint and requires better technique to be able to survive until the end and hopefully tomorrow the race will be much fiercer than today.

What an amazing Sprint Race with so many drama especially the crashes for the 3 riders who crashed when they were leading.
This race also another proof that Marc is not over yet, start the race from the 14th and he made a good start and continue the race with his best then took the 2nd position.
Sorry to Raul Fernandez, he did everything well before he made a mistake that make him crashed while he was leading with a good gap.
Now the question is, will Marc do the same again like what he did in the previous Le Mans race?

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Leclerc got pole position and Max Verstappen hit the wall starting in sixth place tomorrow.What more could have we wanted from such official qualifying session,we are finally going to see a really good race as we know how difficult if not impossible is to overtake in this race.

I think this makes it interesting as I am sure Verstappen will not be happy sitting behind other cars,he will try his best to overtake in here and we have seen rare overtaking moves in the first part of the track if he manages to get along the other cars in those slow corners after the fast first sector,the tunnel a very dangerous place yet we have also seen other people overtaking there too,tomorrow Max should show us all of his skills in a car which is still the best despite today not being in a great fit.

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Leclerc got pole position and Max Verstappen hit the wall starting in sixth place tomorrow.What more could have we wanted from such official qualifying session,we are finally going to see a really good race as we know how difficult if not impossible is to overtake in this race.

I think this makes it interesting as I am sure Verstappen will not be happy sitting behind other cars,he will try his best to overtake in here and we have seen rare overtaking moves in the first part of the track if he manages to get along the other cars in those slow corners after the fast first sector,the tunnel a very dangerous place yet we have also seen other people overtaking there too,tomorrow Max should show us all of his skills in a car which is still the best despite today not being in a great fit.

Yeah I watched Q3 closely and it was really exciting.  Smiley  Finally Leclerc is getting what he wants. Verstappen's lock-up on the starting straight killed his last attempt. As the Monaco track is very tight it is going to be very difficult for him to climb the positions as well. He will just hope for winning in pit strategies and maybe some help by safety car.

Leclerc got his last pole in 2022 here but he couldn't maintain the lead during the race. I hope to see smooth pit strategies by Ferrari this time. They shouldn't make a mistake like calling Sainz and Leclerc to the pit at the same time for example.  Tongue

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Yes.

Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.

I hate this track.

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Yes.

Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.

I hate this track.

That has been the case surely in the previous races yet if I remember correctly there have been successful overtakes when they get out of the tunnel or in the first hairpin turns before entering the tunnel,this is a short track and as such not much action is expected yet I think the driver behind if faster can go for a move.Tire degradation won't be felt that much in such track,as far as I remember if someone enters the pit in early laps and put the mediums,not even the hard tires can have a chance to go to the end of the race here,so a Safety Car can completely turn things around here depending on how each team will read it.I am expecting a beautiful race tomorrow judging from the starting grid.

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Yes.

Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.

I hate this track.
Saturday is most important day in Monaco GP as most of things is decided then. And Saturday ended in terrible way for Red Bull. Verstappen tried to push to the limits and hit wal already on 1st turn,, but even without it, I'm not sure that he would be able to take pole from Lecler. Now there is question, is it possible for Max to reach podium?
But Perez, you must be kidding. 18th place when you have clean track without traffic on your fast lap...

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Saturday is most important day in Monaco GP as most of things is decided then. And Saturday ended in terrible way for Red Bull. Verstappen tried to push to the limits and hit wal already on 1st turn,, but even without it, I'm not sure that he would be able to take pole from Lecler. Now there is question, is it possible for Max to reach podium?
But Perez, you must be kidding. 18th place when you have clean track without traffic on your fast lap...

It is possible? for sure but he needs to hope in a lower degradation in his tyres or in some safety car or virtual safety car.

Since it is almost impossible to overtake here, noone wants to pit early on this track and for this reason the driver ahead can go very slow with the pace for saving tyres since it will be unlikely passed after the 1st turn.

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Leclerc got pole position and Max Verstappen hit the wall starting in sixth place tomorrow.What more could have we wanted from such official qualifying session,we are finally going to see a really good race as we know how difficult if not impossible is to overtake in this race.

I think this makes it interesting as I am sure Verstappen will not be happy sitting behind other cars,he will try his best to overtake in here and we have seen rare overtaking moves in the first part of the track if he manages to get along the other cars in those slow corners after the fast first sector,the tunnel a very dangerous place yet we have also seen other people overtaking there too,tomorrow Max should show us all of his skills in a car which is still the best despite today not being in a great fit.

Not only does Max need to get past Lando, but he also needs to get past Sainz and Russel who will most likely also show their best performance. Moreover, RB experienced a bumpy problem on their car on this circuit, causing Max to lose momentum when overtaking at several corners. Even Horner himself said it would be quite a serious problem and all they could do was rely on the data to determine the best strategy. I think Max will finish in P3 or P4, if only if he wouldn't make the mistake of crashing into the barriers like he did in qualifying.

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May 26, 2024, 12:42:54 PM
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Yes.

Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.

I hate this track.

This track should be allowed to make some changes on it to make it more interesting to watch. Otherwise it is going to stay as one of the most boring Grand Prix in the calendar.  Roll Eyes  Only qualifying and pits are exciting to watch.

Is there any part of the track to make an attempt for an overtake? The only parts I can say are the start straight - which isn't much long Tongue - and maybe the tunnel exit if the drivers are too close to each other. Ambitious drivers such as Verstappen like to push their luck there.

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May 26, 2024, 01:29:58 PM
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It started in the worse possible of ways,4 cars out in the first lap and a red flag while the stewards are still fixing the track and barriers so the race can restart.With Sainz out of the picture the McLaren's have a great chance to maximize their chances with an easy strategy,they let one driver run more than Leclerc and with the other driver they mimic what Ferrari will do,they have two cars against one of Ferrari and with Verstappen out of the picture as the problems were clear for Redbull,we saw Perez with the Haas cars when he was taken out,so he had big problems in his first lap.

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May 26, 2024, 01:42:09 PM
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What an amazing Sprint Race with so many drama especially the crashes for the 3 riders who crashed when they were leading.
This race also another proof that Marc is not over yet, start the race from the 14th and he made a good start and continue the race with his best then took the 2nd position.
Sorry to Raul Fernandez, he did everything well before he made a mistake that make him crashed while he was leading with a good gap.
Now the question is, will Marc do the same again like what he did in the previous Le Mans race?
Today's race was also full of quite fierce competition, especially for Aleix Espargaro who started the race in first place but was unable to get a podium today because he had to face Marquez in the final laps of the race. And another thing is Bagnaia's atonement for the mistake he made by winning today's race after trailing Jorge Martin who was leading the race. Now the gap in points in the standings is still quite fierce, especially for the top three riders such as Jorge Martin, Bagnaia and Marquez after the race is finished today.

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May 26, 2024, 01:47:57 PM
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The unexpected return of Sainz to the race comes as a delightful surprise defying the initial assumption of his departure from contention.This unforeseen twist injects a renewed sense of intrigue and anticipation into the proceedings elevating the stakes and intensifying the competitive landscape.

Sainz's resurgence introduces an element of resilience and determination showcasing the unwavering spirit of a true competitor.His ability to overcome adversity and rejoin the race underscores the unpredictable nature of motorsport where fortunes can swiftly shift and outcomes remain uncertain until the checkered flag falls.


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