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January 22, 2013, 06:35:06 PM |
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Time for funny story on cooling, BFL said something like we'd run into similiar problems like them knowing our design is completely different, e.g. rolled vs pipeline, we chuckled; since we are ahead, I'll say the same, I think BFL is going to run into some problems we ran into as well.
Anyways, cooling was the exact opposite, our units cool so well, we removed two fans. ZING.
Josh, What do you think of the mammoth case Avalon just released pics of? Do you think the PCB takes up the entire footprint? Did they do this to spread the ASIC chips apart because of heat? Just curious. Probably. The avalon system apparently is going to run far cooler then expected, likely due to large fans and utilizing a form factor almost as big as the BFL shipping box. However, it would seem from posts that some of the space is occupied by a "radiator" and some sort of unrevealed secret water cooling maybe? |
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January 22, 2013, 06:35:29 PM |
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400w is a lot of heat to dissipate out of a closed box.
No, it's not. Lots of servers draw 400w in a 1U case. 4U cases can handle well over 1000w, easily. Ok, fair point. I would argue that those 1U cases and the components within are specifically designed to withdraw that heat in a particular way, with hundreds or thousands of engineering hours dedicated to exactly that, but it does show it is possible. |
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January 23, 2013, 04:41:38 AM |
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Yep. All of this bickering over kWh and slivers of profit at a point in time where difficulty is so high.
Better off worrying about USD/GH. BFL selling anyone a chip for 150 that costs 2 to produce when ROI will be near 12 months is madness.
Well it's even worse than that: FPGA -> ASIC Firstly it doesn't matter the GH/s it does, coz everyone who buys one will be getting that sort of GH/s Seriously, everyone is simply upgrading their hardware for no gain ... well actually for way less gain ... Secondly, the price from FPGA -> ASIC = 2x So entry cost to the same competition has doubled But wait, halving! So gross return has also halved. ... OK you see the picture?  As has been stated before, at the goldfields, the guy who sells the mining equipment gets the gold ... ... damn I should be selling cgminer  This and many many many more post dont account for the price of BTC in the future... If BTC worth 1000$ or 1$ in four years... All those nice post are worthless.. Even the seller of the mining equipement is'nt in the race at 1000$/BTC... All useless post IMO.. All depends of what value BTC will exchange for when it will ! |
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January 23, 2013, 05:30:50 AM |
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nathanrees19
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January 23, 2013, 08:17:07 AM |
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The problem is that BFL spits out this 1w/Gh number and people quote it like it's gospel. I suppose I can agree there, though I recall seeing a post about "0.8 to 1.2". |
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January 23, 2013, 08:23:59 AM |
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More evidence that our ASICS are real:
 The thread title flat out says that the boxes are empty, and quite obviously exists only for people who like pictures of boxes (generally people who buy Apple products), and not as "evidence" for ASICs. The quality of the trolling in this thread is just getting lower and lower :/ |
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nathanrees19
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January 23, 2013, 08:25:45 AM |
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We can even prove the existence of God! Oh no! You'll encourage that guy who keeps talking about 12th century Catholics  |
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January 23, 2013, 01:42:38 PM |
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Boxes... Cool...
Why the hell cant you just be at the chip fabrication, and snap a quick shot of the In Construction board?
It would shut everyone up. "chip fab plant isnt nearby" Well yeah, But you DID visit it once before, And I still havent seen photos
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January 23, 2013, 01:49:50 PM |
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Boxes... Cool...
Why the hell cant you just be at the chip fabrication, and snap a quick shot of the In Construction board?
It would shut everyone up. "chip fab plant isnt nearby" Well yeah, But you DID visit it once before, And I still havent seen photos
Josh stated somewhere on the BFL forums that he wasn't allowed to make any pictures in the facility. He only made some pictures of the outside. But he also can't post those cause there are details about the faccility on the pictures he doesn't want to leak out to prevent people harrassing the facility. He could blur out the details he said. But then you just only have pictures of a big building. |
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January 23, 2013, 02:16:59 PM |
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Boxes... Cool...
Why the hell cant you just be at the chip fabrication, and snap a quick shot of the In Construction board?
It would shut everyone up. "chip fab plant isnt nearby" Well yeah, But you DID visit it once before, And I still havent seen photos
Josh stated somewhere on the BFL forums that he wasn't allowed to make any pictures in the facility. He only made some pictures of the outside. But he also can't post those cause there are details about the faccility on the pictures he doesn't want to leak out to prevent people harrassing the facility. He could blur out the details he said. But then you just only have pictures of a big building. Well, That IS a good answer if Certain chips in the factory (wich sometimes can be) are sensitive to photography. And the explantaion about the building makes good sense. |
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January 23, 2013, 02:31:34 PM |
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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January 23, 2013, 02:50:49 PM |
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Josh stated somewhere on the BFL forums that he wasn't allowed to make any pictures in the facility.
He only made some pictures of the outside. But he also can't post those cause there are details about the faccility on the pictures he doesn't want to leak out to prevent people harrassing the facility.
He could blur out the details he said. But then you just only have pictures of a big building.
They finally published pictures of the facility! Like with all their products they had to put the facility in a box & wrap it so that no one can actually see it:  Have faith sheeple, have faith  |
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January 23, 2013, 04:11:54 PM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
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January 23, 2013, 04:26:12 PM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
Ignore works very well, I suggest you use it.  |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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January 23, 2013, 11:32:53 PM |
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Have faith sheeple, have faith Keep playin' attention whore Frizz Supertramp, keep playin' BFL_Josh
: Jeez.. Frizz has been busy. Just banned 6 accounts created today |
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January 23, 2013, 11:44:04 PM |
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++2 ...loled so much a tear came to my eye ... a box full of shoes with fans ...  |
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January 24, 2013, 01:33:06 AM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
Ignore works very well, I suggest you use it. Not quite. An ignored post takes up a 1 inch band of real estate on my screen. The forum should have an Ignore Plus feature where the ingored poster disappears completely. |
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January 24, 2013, 01:51:01 AM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
Ignore works very well, I suggest you use it. Not quite. An ignored post takes up a 1 inch band of real estate on my screen. The forum should have an Ignore Plus feature where the ingored poster disappears completely. I'm all for that! |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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January 24, 2013, 02:23:03 AM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
Ignore works very well, I suggest you use it.  Not quite. An ignored post takes up a 1 inch band of real estate on my screen. The forum should have an Ignore Plus feature where the ingored poster disappears completely. I'm all for that! That would be amazing...then when I click on a page in this thread, I'll find that there's 1 or 2 actually useful posts. It'll make going through 130 pages super quick. A guy can dream, right? |
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January 24, 2013, 02:35:03 AM |
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/facepalm So much Overtroll.
C'mon guys, simmer down a little Atleast with the photos
Ignore works very well, I suggest you use it. Not quite. An ignored post takes up a 1 inch band of real estate on my screen. The forum should have an Ignore Plus feature where the ingored poster disappears completely. I'm all for that! That would be amazing...then when I click on a page in this thread, I'll find that there's 1 or 2 actually useful posts. It'll make going through 130 pages super quick. A guy can dream, right? Sure can. Would make things a bit easier for many. |
When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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