[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer

[bspus]

I agree it's not a good idea to mine coins on elastic. There should be delay issues as well which are significant on coins with low block time.

If one really wanted to do it as a proof of concept, the best candidate would be monero.

Both cpu and gpu mining are viable, though I am not sure about the target block time and the network is big enough not to be disrupted by a small scale experiment of this sort

[cyberhacker]

http://l.elasticexplorer.org/#lg=1&slide=120

EK like this one.

vote!

[Evil-Knievel]

Disclaimer: It is not profitable to mine Bitcoin with Elastic. But, this video is more meant to show how scientists would act to do something really useful using ElasticPL - step by step. Please understand this as a PoC, not as *THE* "main feature".

The bitcoin block mining is the first thing that came into my mind ... and it works ;-)

Code: https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic_bitcoin_miner
And the video showing and explaining the whole process:

CLICK TO WATCH!!



@coralreefer: Regarding the changes to the miner ... I may have screwed up, I wanted to ask you for your support anyway :-) The thing is, that the "signed integer" thing caused weird effects during shifts and additions. I will prepare some 2-line snippets that failed before in a few minutes / around one hour. First I tried to make an additional u[] array for purely unsigned integers, but failed.

@coralreefer2: Also, I more and more agree with you dropping the PoW altogether. What do you think? They bring so much overhead at little to no real gain!

[unvoid]

"for some reason I can not get a Golem app to run on my computer at all"

@EK just throw away this Mac

[unvoid]

My statement about Elastic

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/my-statement-about-elastic/211

[Bgjjj2016]

My statement about Elastic

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/my-statement-about-elastic/211

But I thought Mainnet is coming any day right after the logo,documents and testing ( which is going on 24/7)

[bspus]

My statement about Elastic

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/my-statement-about-elastic/211

But I thought Mainnet is coming any day right after the logo,documents and testing ( which is going on 24/7)

No such promise was ever made. In fact, the people developing it avoided making any sort of time estimation for a mainnet release.

It's other people assuming that keeps this belief around

[Bgjjj2016]

My statement about Elastic

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/my-statement-about-elastic/211

But I thought Mainnet is coming any day right after the logo,documents and testing ( which is going on 24/7)

No such promise was ever made. In fact, the people developing it avoided making any sort of time estimation for a mainnet release.

It's other people assuming that keeps this belief around

I agree no promises were made on the Mainnet release date, however, finalizing logo, testing the newest version of our software, finalizing the XEL donators' list....... what does usually come to your mind next ?

[cyberhacker]

I thought everyone is happy with the testing and new update.

so with greenlight to mainnet will make ppl happier?

how about we vote for mainnet launch? of course with greenlight from EK, we start voting.


just asking...

[Bgjjj2016]

I thought everyone is happy with the testing and new update.

so with greenlight to mainnet will make ppl happier?

Absolutely happy! Specially after seeing EK's video showing the functionality of Elastic. I think we are very close for Mainnet. This is just my perception.

[coralreefer]

@coralreefer: Regarding the changes to the miner ... I may have screwed up, I wanted to ask you for your support anyway :-) The thing is, that the "signed integer" thing caused weird effects during shifts and additions. I will prepare some 2-line snippets that failed before in a few minutes / around one hour. First I tried to make an additional u[] array for purely unsigned integers, but failed.

I should probably have clarified my original comment...I meant that the original intent no longer worked.  I didn't mean to imply what you wrote doesn't work.  Back when we put the language together, my understanding was that if a specialized routine was needed (i.e. sha256) it would be coded a new function in ElasticPL which would not have any of the limitation of the language.  What you wrote is perfectly fine, it just may limit certain use-cases.  Ultimately, the language probably needs to go one step further and allow arrays of variables of each main type to be declared and used (within a limited range) rather than the generic memory model we have now.)

@coralreefer2: Also, I more and more agree with you dropping the PoW altogether. What do you think? They bring so much overhead at little to no real gain!

I'm sure your BTC example made the overhead crystal clear...that is why I have always pushed against the POW logic.  But this would have to be a community decision...it would basically mean miners would only earn XEL if a bounty was found (which I believe is the correct approach)...but that means you could run your miner for days on end with no immediate return.  this is a complete paradigm shift from what people think of as mining, so I'm not sure the community would be interested.

[Tradingriver]

@EK great video!

I have no clue about coding, but I was still impressed!

To all coders especially EK

could you pick some point we need to start the mainnet?

What is good about starting the mainnet?

For example, as I watched your video about the Bitcoin Miner I thought "It would be great to start the mainnet and do a competition like the logo, but with more proof of concept ideas"

what does we need?

[ImI]

@EK Nice GT3 RS! 

[clivemy]

I thought everyone is happy with the testing and new update.

so with greenlight to mainnet will make ppl happier?

how about we vote for mainnet launch? of course with greenlight from EK, we start voting.


just asking...

I think it would be nice, if we as a community could have a say in this project by voting when we go mainnet.

Now we have the voting mechanism up and running again, the community as a whole has an opportunity to have a voice.

[Bgjjj2016]

I thought everyone is happy with the testing and new update.

so with greenlight to mainnet will make ppl happier?

how about we vote for mainnet launch? of course with greenlight from EK, we start voting.


just asking...

I think it would be nice, if we as a community could have a say in this project by voting when we go mainnet.

Now we have the voting mechanism up and running again, the community as a whole has an opportunity to have a voice.

with the green light from EK, there is no need to vote.

[teletobi]

When will the Logo Voting be closed? Had no time....

[josegines]

I have a strange feeling of this day. After interesting news for the community as the vote for the logo, which I really never understood that was as high priority, and the new video of EK, always interesting, suddenly come back to appear in the atmosphere a very rare atmosphere, accompanied by The tremendous word, Mainnet.

On one occasion, something similar happened, EK commented that he would leave 2 weeks of vacation to the Dominican Republic.

I just hope that now that I see, thanks to the video, that EK is still working on Elastic with enough momentum, do not have the same feeling that I have today.

It is not good that such an important project pivots into one person, but after all, thanks to that we are here.

Vote for Mainnet? I'm afraid I do not understand. You can vote for a logo, or if you like apples or oranges, but vote to force someone, who until now has worked without ties of time or money, to finish his work, that would be something he would not understand .

I would let EK work as I have done so far. I trust his judgment, when he believes that the project is ready, he will present it and we will all enjoy his result.

You can vote for anything, except on Mainnet. It is my humble opinion.

Do not spoil this fantastic atmosphere that we had until today.

Greetings.

[nightwishx]

When will the Logo Voting be closed? Had no time....

Vote Online Until: 2017-05-11 12:00:00 UTC

[bspus]

I'm sure your BTC example made the overhead crystal clear...that is why I have always pushed against the POW logic.  But this would have to be a community decision...it would basically mean miners would only earn XEL if a bounty was found (which I believe is the correct approach)...but that means you could run your miner for days on end with no immediate return.  this is a complete paradigm shift from what people think of as mining, so I'm not sure the community would be interested.

They way you put it, it sounds more like the difference between pool mining and solo.
Maybe for most people, pool mining is the "normal", but should that be the case?

I'm all for the change you suggested, FWIW

[Tradingriver]

I have a strange feeling of this day. After interesting news for the community as the vote for the logo, which I really never understood that was as high priority, and the new video of EK, always interesting, suddenly come back to appear in the atmosphere a very rare atmosphere, accompanied by The tremendous word, Mainnet.

On one occasion, something similar happened, EK commented that he would leave 2 weeks of vacation to the Dominican Republic.

I just hope that now that I see, thanks to the video, that EK is still working on Elastic with enough momentum, do not have the same feeling that I have today.

It is not good that such an important project pivots into one person, but after all, thanks to that we are here.

Vote for Mainnet? I'm afraid I do not understand. You can vote for a logo, or if you like apples or oranges, but vote to force someone, who until now has worked without ties of time or money, to finish his work, that would be something he would not understand .

I would let EK work as I have done so far. I trust his judgment, when he believes that the project is ready, he will present it and we will all enjoy his result.

You can vote for anything, except on Mainnet. It is my humble opinion.

Do not spoil this fantastic atmosphere that we had until today.

Greetings.

I have the opposite feeling! Because I saw this video, it looked to me as a none coder, that we have the tools nearly completed. So it is
natural to ask "when can we launch?". This is not to pressure EK or anybody, but without mainnet, most of us can not do anything. I would just like to understand what we are missing right now and what WE have to do, where can we all help to make it faster or is all the work we
need to be done by EK?

The video was great and gave my a great push and now I want to know more