[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer

[Bgjjj2016]

@yosir "  voted 'NO' only because EK told he will vote so when he was asked," ..... I think you've got a misunderstanding, a big one. First of all the 98% YES loves EK, so go do your FUD somewhere else. Second, a good project needs independent thinkers with their own opinion that can contribute to the progress rather than creating CHAOS and division.

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[tomkat]

http://elasticracy.elasticexplorer.org/

total voted coin:

25880811.3


light wallet:


YES:   25247019.62300000 XEL    percentage: 97.5%

NO:   633791.73200543 XEL             percentage: 2.5%





the community and coin holder made the choice.

That statement will only be true after the voting has ended. Currently you can only observe the trend. We will know soon enough.

no matter it's yes or no, i will happy community make the decision together.

it's not about the results, it's about the decision making mechanism.

30% 26% voted (+- 50 individuals out of hundreds) , 3 individual equal 10 percent out of 30 that voted ------->>> "together","community","democracy"... yep

People that didn't vote is their decision, don't worry dude. Chill out !

Or don't want to share key, or don't have access to it, or got tired of all sell/buy/exchange BS that was on forum and stop following it, or or or...
If the choice is made by few for many, there is a name for this. "25% democracy"

Sure "dude", ice chilled, just amused.

Come one, everyone CAN vote, so what's your point now?

Just look one post up for example

Can someone post some steps how to vote?

Your posts are so unproductive, instead of helping that guy, you're using his post for spreading your message (and I really don't get what is it all about in your case)
It's just ridiculous.

Anyway, here is the link showing how to sign message with bitcoin priv key which is enough to take part in the voting
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/how-to-sign-a-message-with-bitcoin-private-key-bitcoin-core-blockchain-info-and-electrum/221

[yosir]

@yosir "  voted 'NO' only because EK told he will vote so when he was asked," ..... I think you've got a misunderstanding, a big one. First of all the 98% YES loves EK, so go do your FUD somewhere else. Second, a good project needs independent thinkers with their own opinion that can contribute to the progress rather than creating CHAOS and division.

I think that I got it right...

I never said, that we need a lite wallet. The community just showed interest in a lite wallet because the "full features" are partly unstable, not tested well enough, and things would still need some time. But who am I to decide, my vote (and I hope this is this way because we are a democratic project) is only worth a fraction - exactly as much as my XEL holdings weigh in a vote.

So if someone starts a vote, I will vote for no. But if yes wins, I can assist with coding (not launching).

now, how me not agree to current voting system and explaining my opinion makes it FUD.
P.S.

And I can't say that I like your  "First of all the 98% YES loves EK" as if I suggested that not ( regardless of me thinking this "love EK" part is irrelevant ) plus your personal accusations as I say what I say because vote didn't go my way, all the FUD stuff and etc. I guess it is become bit personal for you so let's AGAIN stop it here. This is not going to good and constructive places.

[Bgjjj2016]

@yosir "  voted 'NO' only because EK told he will vote so when he was asked," ..... I think you've got a misunderstanding, a big one. First of all the 98% YES loves EK, so go do your FUD somewhere else. Second, a good project needs independent thinkers with their own opinion that can contribute to the progress rather than creating CHAOS and division.

I think that I got it right...

I never said, that we need a lite wallet. The community just showed interest in a lite wallet because the "full features" are partly unstable, not tested well enough, and things would still need some time. But who am I to decide, my vote (and I hope this is this way because we are a democratic project) is only worth a fraction - exactly as much as my XEL holdings weigh in a vote.

So if someone starts a vote, I will vote for no. But if yes wins, I can assist with coding (not launching).

now, how me not agree to current voting system and explaining my opinion makes it FUD.
P.S.

And I can't say that I like your  "First of all the 98% YES loves EK" as if I suggested that not ( regardless of me thinking this "love EK" part is irrelevant ) plus your personal accusations as I say what I say because vote didn't go my way, all the FUD stuff and etc. I guess it is become bit personal for you so let's AGAIN stop it here. This is not going to good and constructive places.

FUD Alert !!

[Bgjjj2016]

@yosir. It's not just me. Many many people find your messages unproductive, divisive and best said " ridiculous "

[yosir]

Your posts are so unproductive, instead of helping that guy, you're using his post for spreading your message (and I really don't get what is it all about in your case)
It's just ridiculous.

Anyway, here is the link showing how to sign message with bitcoin priv key which is enough to take part in the voting
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/how-to-sign-a-message-with-bitcoin-private-key-bitcoin-core-blockchain-info-and-electrum/221

Let's pass on the fact that you ignored me proving my point.

I don't think that my posts are unproductive (when this is not around personal accusation). I show problems in current system.
For example you said that everyone CAN vote, and I explained you that what you saying is wrong as that person could not vote for at least two votes because he had not technical knowledge. Let's say he has 50000000 XEL... you understand problem in this? If yes, you can try to find solution to make this voting better, as I can't. I can see only the problem. So it is kind of productive, again, when it is not on personal level.

And about helping this guy... You are totally RIGHT... I was in different state of mind.

[yosir]

@yosir. It's not just me. Many many people find your messages unproductive, divisive and best said " ridiculous "

And because of this it makes it right?
Please explain me how my messages are FUD
I am open to hear, believe me.

[lnbdun]

only less than 25% coin voted?

where the left XEL ?

people do not know how to vote

or they forget their private key?

I think the final number will be at least 30% less than the original 100M.

where the left 70M ?

I would not be surprised that many have not yet learned, we do not all look at this thread every day. Many people may look at it once a week or less.

[Bgjjj2016]

I thought we had an "Ignore" button somewhere. Could someone guide me to it !  

[yosir]

I thought we had an "Ignore" button somewhere. Couple someone guide me to it !  

when you want to shoot shoot don't talk 

[ymh343993]

I can't believe that we can't find a motivated C dev with networking experience to work on this project. How is that possible with so much talent in these forums? Did anyone put any formal ad for this somewhere?

[tomkat]

Your posts are so unproductive, instead of helping that guy, you're using his post for spreading your message (and I really don't get what is it all about in your case)
It's just ridiculous.

Anyway, here is the link showing how to sign message with bitcoin priv key which is enough to take part in the voting
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/how-to-sign-a-message-with-bitcoin-private-key-bitcoin-core-blockchain-info-and-electrum/221

Let's pass on the fact that you ignored me proving my point.

I don't think that my posts are unproductive (when this is not around personal accusation). I show problems in current system.
For example you said that everyone CAN vote, and I explained you that what you saying is wrong as that person could not vote for at least two votes because he had not technical knowledge. Let's say he has 50000000 XEL... you understand problem in this? If yes, you can try to find solution to make this voting better, as I can't. I can see only the problem. So it is kind of productive, again, when it is not on personal level.

And about helping this guy... You are totally RIGHT... I was in different state of mind.

So, you really think that if someone has not enough technical knowledge, then it's a problem of the voting system?

I mean everyone CAN vote but not everyone is ABLE to vote - but that's just how it is in life, isn't it?

[Improved]

Voting is a joke in this project.
Reason :  We don't know how much XEL so-called "Lannister" owns. It could be more than 50% easily, even 80-90%.
Just import address 3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn and behold many cash-outs he did before crowdfunding ended. Sapienti sat.

[coralreefer]

I can't believe that we can't find a motivated C dev with networking experience to work on this project. How is that possible with so much talent in these forums? Did anyone put any formal ad for this somewhere?

It's going to take more than motivation...as I mentioned in my post a while back (that got buried)...any new dev to the project is going to be working on uncharted territory and is going to have to figure out most things for themselves w/o any design or hand holding.  It's probably, going to be a little challenging to find someone that can actually provide the help this project needs.

[Bgjjj2016]

I thought we had an "Ignore" button somewhere. Couple someone guide me to it !  

when you want to shoot shoot don't talk 

As I have always welcome newbies here. However your motive is becoming clearer by every post you write. Are you always in offensive? Chill out ! These are excellent times for Elastic. We have a good team of dev ( EK, Coralreefer ,...) and your divisiveness is NOT gonna work here.  

[provenceday]

light wallet will help this project.

[cybterpunk]

let's wait for the voting end.

still have a lot of time to do vote.

[yosir]

Your posts are so unproductive, instead of helping that guy, you're using his post for spreading your message (and I really don't get what is it all about in your case)
It's just ridiculous.

Anyway, here is the link showing how to sign message with bitcoin priv key which is enough to take part in the voting
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/how-to-sign-a-message-with-bitcoin-private-key-bitcoin-core-blockchain-info-and-electrum/221

Let's pass on the fact that you ignored me proving my point.

I don't think that my posts are unproductive (when this is not around personal accusation). I show problems in current system.
For example you said that everyone CAN vote, and I explained you that what you saying is wrong as that person could not vote for at least two votes because he had not technical knowledge. Let's say he has 50000000 XEL... you understand problem in this? If yes, you can try to find solution to make this voting better, as I can't. I can see only the problem. So it is kind of productive, again, when it is not on personal level.

And about helping this guy... You are totally RIGHT... I was in different state of mind.

So, you really think that if someone has not enough technical knowledge, then it's a problem of the voting system?

I mean everyone CAN vote but not everyone is ABLE to vote - but that's just how it is in life, isn't it?

If the objective of voting system is to reach the most relevant result , this is indeed the problem of voting system.

Without the ability, possibility is irrelevant for voting
It's like give voting rights to someone but not to tell him when,where, or how to vote. He CAN vote indeed but not able to

I don't know, if you were in The DAO times, but there was situation when 5% who voted on subject and this was valid voting as many even didn't know that voting take place.

And to be more productive...
There are many ways to make it better: we can set minimal cap for voting, can make longer voting period, proactively send links to vote, etc...
But I think that no one of this solutions is good enough, so because of this I hope that someone else will find better solution to problem I see.

[cybterpunk]

http://elasticracy.elasticexplorer.org/addresses

at least 40% of the coin is alive.


Total balance: 40336290.73758231

[cybterpunk]

Your posts are so unproductive, instead of helping that guy, you're using his post for spreading your message (and I really don't get what is it all about in your case)
It's just ridiculous.

Anyway, here is the link showing how to sign message with bitcoin priv key which is enough to take part in the voting
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/how-to-sign-a-message-with-bitcoin-private-key-bitcoin-core-blockchain-info-and-electrum/221

Let's pass on the fact that you ignored me proving my point.

I don't think that my posts are unproductive (when this is not around personal accusation). I show problems in current system.
For example you said that everyone CAN vote, and I explained you that what you saying is wrong as that person could not vote for at least two votes because he had not technical knowledge. Let's say he has 50000000 XEL... you understand problem in this? If yes, you can try to find solution to make this voting better, as I can't. I can see only the problem. So it is kind of productive, again, when it is not on personal level.

And about helping this guy... You are totally RIGHT... I was in different state of mind.

So, you really think that if someone has not enough technical knowledge, then it's a problem of the voting system?

I mean everyone CAN vote but not everyone is ABLE to vote - but that's just how it is in life, isn't it?

If the objective of voting system is to reach the most relevant result , this is indeed the problem of voting system.

Without the ability, possibility is irrelevant for voting
It's like give voting rights to someone but not to tell him when,where, or how to vote. He CAN vote indeed but not able to

I don't know, if you were in The DAO times, but there was situation when 5% who voted on subject and this was valid voting as many even didn't know that voting take place.

And to be more productive...
There are many ways to make it better: we can set minimal cap for voting, can make longer voting period, proactively send links to vote, etc...
But I think that no one of this solutions is good enough, so because of this I hope that someone else will find better solution to problem I see.

that's a social problems.

like how can we make poor people rich?