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May 30, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
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Finex already re-hit $539 again immediately after the dump heh.  The dump ended up being sideways movement...

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May 30, 2016, 05:07:18 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2016, 05:19:19 PM by r0ach
 #422

NEVERMIND, $450 now.

<r0ach> haha now btc pumps off the floor
<r0ach> the chinese are ruthless against weak hands

Chinese pumpers from the sky.  If you short Bitcoin, you will die.


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May 30, 2016, 05:19:49 PM
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^Now put your hand in his back pocket...

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May 30, 2016, 07:23:08 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2016, 08:38:29 PM by MatTheCat
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Daytraders sitting on both sides of the trade, just go their asses handed to them. Total manipulation from exchange insiders. Only reason BTC went down, was to wipe out weak longs, and then right back up to wipe out weak shorts....and now...Bitcoin is right back where it was to begin with.




If these were regulated exchanges, shit like this wouldn't happen. That simple.

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May 30, 2016, 08:37:53 PM
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We had to paint the tape to spell out anarchy:




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May 30, 2016, 08:45:50 PM
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Daytraders sitting on both sides of the trade, just go their asses handed to them. Total manipulation from exchange insiders. Only reason BTC went down, was to wipe out weak longs, and then right back up to wipe out weak shorts....and now...Bitcoin is right back where it was to begin with.




If these were regulated exchanges, shit like this wouldn't happen. That simple.

Totally agree. yesterday i made 0.68BTC just by babysitting stamp, today another 0.25BTC again just by looking at screen from time to time.

This shit is so obvious
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May 30, 2016, 09:09:45 PM
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Daytraders sitting on both sides of the trade, just go their asses handed to them. Total manipulation from exchange insiders. Only reason BTC went down, was to wipe out weak longs, and then right back up to wipe out weak shorts....and now...Bitcoin is right back where it was to begin with.

If these were regulated exchanges, shit like this wouldn't happen. That simple.

Wait, we need to load the relevant MatTheCat quote generator:

This Bullshit aint the work of an aggregate market.

This market is fucked.

This is just a few players with the power to defy all time learned principles of market mechanics

it is futile trying to read these markets

these markets are just not to be traded

I can't reasonably expect to be able to play these markets


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May 31, 2016, 12:15:34 AM
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Here are some pretty pictures for permabulls to look at:










Verdict. Near term bearish as fuck. But I amn't shorting it. Shorting means playing with margin and that is just fucking fodder for the corrupt exchanges who know where all the liquidation levels are, and who will farm the fuck out of any traders silly enough to play short trades in any period of time when whales aren't busy dumping the fuck out of Bitcoin and margin longs. When the dumps come, they will be very sudden, and very fast. Best of luck trying to time those. I should really know better by now about taking counter trend trades......(have practically emptied OkCoin Futures account so that I don't get any bright ideas). Being generally right about market direction, and successfully trading it (on margin) are two very different things.




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May 31, 2016, 12:26:58 AM
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I'm definitely shorting this for a couple hours
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all traders should be short now ... we got another FU dragon-surprise yum cha lined up for them.

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May 31, 2016, 12:49:12 AM
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I'm definitely shorting this for a couple hours

Best of luck with that.

This is an up market. An up market that has gotten way overboiled and has ran out of steam, but still an upmarket.

You place your short entry any other time than when the whales are getting ready to dump, and the exchanges will take your money off you. Unless you are willing to go balls to the wall and not set a stop loss.....Last time I done that, I ended up losing $3500. So these days, I just put up with getting my Stops run, and then watching price come back to my entry level 5 minutes later, like what happened today.

These exchanges are unregulated. The operators can, and do, do what the fuck they like. It would be a test of anyone's moral rectitude to be in the midst of temptation like that, and not become a little crooked, but my contention is that the people who are running the likes of OKCoin, and Bitfinex, are not just a little crooked, but hell bent and twisted over backwards crooked.


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May 31, 2016, 01:19:14 AM
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You place your short entry any other time than when the whales are getting ready to dump, and the exchanges will take your money off you. Unless you are willing to go balls to the wall and not set a stop loss.....Last time I done that, I ended up losing $3500.

LOL, no wonder you're a Bitcoin hatred quote generator.  Every trade must feel like PTSD when a WW2 vet goes to a bowling alley and hears a loud noise and thinks he's been shelled by the Germans.

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You place your short entry any other time than when the whales are getting ready to dump, and the exchanges will take your money off you. Unless you are willing to go balls to the wall and not set a stop loss.....Last time I done that, I ended up losing $3500.

LOL, no wonder you're a Bitcoin hatred quote generator.  Every trade must feel like PTSD when a WW2 vet goes to a bowling alley and hears a loud noise and thinks he's been shelled by the Germans.

2.5 years ago he was whining about holding onto a single bitcoin... at $800/per. And now he wants us to believe that he has enough trading money to lose $3500?

Hmmm, something doesn't quite add up...
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May 31, 2016, 02:32:24 AM
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I welcome all shorters at this point and I recommend 20x leverage while you're at it. Safe play and nothing could possibly go wrong. You could get rekt but big deal right. Go big or go home.
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2.5 years ago he was whining about holding onto a single bitcoin... at $800/per. And now he wants us to believe that he has enough trading money to lose $3500?

Hmmm, something doesn't quite add up...

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Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 409.3 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.40930001   5,129.77957826   
13-04-14 18:08:34
Trading fees for 2.0 BTC @ 406.999 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
1.62799600   5,130.18887827   
13-04-14 17:52:03
Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 407.1001 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.81420020   5,131.81687427   
13-04-14 17:49:21
Trading fees for 2.0 BTC @ 400.0 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.80000000   5,132.63107447   
13-04-14 17:35:51
Trading fees for 4.0 BTC @ 400.0 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
1.60000000   5,133.43107447   
13-04-14 17:30:14
Trading fees for 2.0 BTC @ 400.0 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.80000000   5,135.03107447   
13-04-14 17:27:23
Trading fees for 1.9512 BTC @ 402.0 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
1.56880137   5,135.83107447   
13-04-14 17:20:36
Trading fees for 0.0388 BTC @ 402.001 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.03115871   5,137.39987584   
13-04-14 17:20:36
Trading fees for 0.01 BTC @ 402.01 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.00804020   5,137.43103455   
13-04-14 17:20:36
Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 403.1899 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.40318990   5,137.43907475   
13-04-14 17:20:27
Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 402.02 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.80404000   5,137.84226465   
13-04-14 17:11:51
Trading fees for 4.0 BTC @ 411.2 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
1.64480000   5,138.64630465   
13-04-14 15:41:50
Settlement @ 411.5 on wallet trading
0.20183664   5,140.29110465   
13-04-14 15:41:50
Position #136396 closed @ 411.5 on wallet trading
62.60010000      5,140.49294129   
13-04-14 15:41:49
Trading fees for 2.0 BTC @ 411.2 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.82240000   5,077.89284129   
13-04-14 15:41:46
Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 420.07 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.84014000   5,078.71524129   
13-04-14 11:44:08
Trading fees for 1.0 BTC @ 420.0701 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
0.84014020   5,079.55538129   
13-04-14 11:44:08
Trading fees for 0.281 BTC @ 422.42 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.11870002   5,080.39552149   
13-04-14 11:28:40
Trading fees for 2.0 BTC @ 422.41 on BFX (0.2%) on wallet trading
1.68964000   5,080.51422151   
13-04-14 11:27:51
Trading fees for 1.719 BTC @ 422.42 on BFX (0.1%) on wallet trading
0.72613998   5,082.20386151   
13-04-14 11:27:46
Transfer of 5082.93 USD from wallet exchange to trading on wallet trading
5,082.93000000      5,082.93000149   
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My error. Twas more like $3K. Still. That short trade at $402, on the 'dead cat bounce' (lol) from $340 (it was a dead cat bounce alright, but it bounced all the way up to $547) leaves an indelible mark on me and my trading psychology.

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May 31, 2016, 10:08:07 AM
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I welcome all shorters at this point and I recommend 20x leverage while you're at it. Safe play and nothing could possibly go wrong. You could get rekt but big deal right. Go big or go home.

Permabull trying to use reverse psychology. Cheesy
If I'm right and this was the top, it won't be worth taking a medium term short position for the next couple of weeks, just scalping should be worth.
And don't forget to buy the bottom of the correction around 420$, again if I'm right about this being he top, it should rise to 680$ later this year.

Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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May 31, 2016, 10:26:24 AM
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If these were regulated exchanges, shit like this wouldn't happen. That simple.
Huh

Every single market in existence works like this, regulated or not.

It's normal business in any other asset class too.

Not to the same extent, no. Exchanges have access to much more information than the punters, and, without regulations, exchanges would be foolish not to use it. Playing this market is like playing poker against the house, with the house being able to see all (okay, most of) your cards. You can still win, but it's not really poker & the odds are against it.
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I welcome all shorters at this point and I recommend 20x leverage while you're at it. Safe play and nothing could possibly go wrong. You could get rekt but big deal right. Go big or go home.

Permabull trying to use reverse psychology. Cheesy
If I'm right and this was the top, it won't be worth taking a medium term short position for the next couple of weeks, just scalping should be worth.
And don't forget to buy the bottom of the correction around 420$, again if I'm right about this being he top, it should rise to 680$ later this year.

My brother just Emailed asking me if Bitcoin was about to go on the rampage again. Last time he done that, Bitcoin was at $505, I was long from $390, after being long from $240, and having cashed out at $325, only to pile right back in with twice the funds I orignally had ont he exchange. I was in full FOMO mode and actually advised him to take a position, but whilst we were talking, Bitcoin tanked to $460 or something....but being in full permabull mode, I wasn't concerned at all.....after all, brutal corrections are part of any Bitcoin rally, right?

Point being, my brother is the definition of the public. If he is thinking of coming stampeding in, that is a very good sign that the top is very close, or already in. I suspect the top is already in. China lead this pump, and at one point opened up a $60+ dollar price differential between them and Finex (never mind between them and Stamp). That gap has now narrowed to aroudn $20. Stamp n Finex keep saying up up up, but Huobi isn't interested. Neither are OkCoin 3 Mon Futs. I suspect a lot of this action has to do with CNY devaluation. If that is true, then price increase has already been factored into Bitcoin, and indeed we are probably in a state of Bitcoin being extremely overvalued right now. If what Chinese Bitcoin investors are primarily seeking, is exposure to the USD, then they are going to want to start dumping Bitcoin on USD exchanges fairly soon, especially those who bought in at the bottom of the pump.

For me, the top is in, and a brutal correction awaits, but I won't be trying to short this. Fucking sick of the anxiety and the dirty little FU moves that will occur basically in any situation where whales aren't basically at the exchange gates with lorry loads of BTC to dump. I would basically want inside knowledge to short this. Failing that, fuck it. One thing *knowing* that this pos is about to dump, and then watching it happen and saying "man, I knew that was gonna happen, I shoulda shorted!", but quite another thing actually timing your short so that you catch the dump, without being robbed by the exchanges beforehand.

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May 31, 2016, 11:28:31 AM
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2.5 years ago he was whining about holding onto a single bitcoin... at $800/per. And now he wants us to believe that he has enough trading money to lose $3500?

Hmmm, something doesn't quite add up...

He definitely acquired more than 1 BTC somehow.  This trade would require 2 BTC with leverage!


Fucking rat cocksuckers. 6 fucking BTC trade with Stop Order

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Kraken Account, Robbed/Emptied. Kraken say "Fuck you, its your loss": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643

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