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August 03, 2016, 05:51:24 PM
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Except that a lot of people take him as a reverse indicator. Let's meet halfway and call it a non-event.

Here is where MatTheCat warned others about shady happenings at Bitfinex
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660948.msg7444557#msg7444557

One month ago I warned others to stay away from Bitfinex something I would not have known to do had it not been for MatTheCats information
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg15428581#msg15428581

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I have a suggestion for a 42% per annum fixed income investment by lending your USD at Bitfinex:
Its some worry they could find no alternative to 42%   Doesnt crowd funding usually achieve cheaper rates, Im not sure

This exchange lost 1,500 BTC in a hack last year.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-bitfinex-hot-wallet-hacked-bitcoins-stolen

Interest rate is probably so high out of a concern the company is under capitalized.

I also saw this post a while ago about strange things that go on at that exchange.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660948.msg7444557#msg7444557

The combination is enough for me to stay far far away.

Recently MatTheCat has provided another highly concerning warning about another potentially problematic exchange.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643

 
No? Okay. Mat is a fucking loser who intentionally sabotages himself in order to get pity parties thrown for him.

Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.
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August 03, 2016, 06:01:21 PM
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No? Okay. Mat is a fucking loser who intentionally sabotages himself in order to get pity parties thrown for him.

"The worst enemy you can meet will always be yourself" - Fredrick Nietzsche

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How we treat others when they are down is one of the purest reflections on who we are. I have provided advice unthread that I think will help. I will now bow out of the conversation.

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August 03, 2016, 06:04:52 PM
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Reminder that mat likes the victim role. He intentionally points his naked ass in the air, and then complains about how much being butt fucked hurts. This is why he has "reasons" for not turning his bitcoins into fiat. He wants to be a martyr.

Edit: Hat tip to sgbett for an even better analysis. It is the same basic psychological profile, but he said it so much better.

Fuck u Ibian!

Where is all ya Bitcoin profits gone? Up in smoke is where, and Bitcoin is right back down below your cost average buy-in price, and knowing that puts a smile on my face, u stupid thick skulled pig ignorant cunt.

Did u enjoy the ride down to $450 like I told you was gonna happen?

$560 now though....soon all will be well again for you hodlers, right?



I never got my funds out of Finex, cos I just so happened to have misplaced my mobile phone (required for 2FA) when the time was opportune for doing so (I convert USD to BTC, BTC to LocalBTC, and then to GBP). I had my limit orders on Finex when I realised I had no way of doing the 2FA to withdraw from the site. I phoned the person in whose home I had left my mobile, but no joy. By the time I had my mobile back in my possession, the wedge was getting very thin, and I was fearing large dumps all the way down to $500 and below before I could get all my worthless vaporous BTC converted into GBP. Those big dumps did indeed come, and did indeed start before Finex got hacked.

When Finex got hacked, I never had BTC in my account, I had USD. I should be fine so long as Finex is able to continue to operate solvently. If they are insolvent, then I guess the losses shall be socialised. Whatever happens, I shall be cutting any financial involvement with BTC, permantently and whatever happens, and however much I end up losing, I know that your own losses will add up to so so much more.

u stupid fucking cock.

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August 03, 2016, 06:14:06 PM
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No? Okay. Mat is a fucking loser who intentionally sabotages himself in order to get pity parties thrown for him.

"The worst enemy you can meet will always be yourself" - Fredrick Nietzsche

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How we treat others when they are down is one of the purest reflections on who we are. I have provided advice unthread that I think will help. I will now bow out of the conversation.
Depends if they are on our team or not.

There are two opposed psychologies among humans. It's a scale, not absolute categories. mat and me are on opposite ends. You are somewhere in the middle, and therefore unable to differentiate.

Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.
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August 03, 2016, 06:15:51 PM
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There are two opposed psychologies among humans. It's a scale, not absolute categories. mat and me are on opposite ends. You are somewhere in the middle, and therefore unable to differentiate.


I am just a little bit of a headcase Ibian.

You on the otherhand are a rather vile, thin skinned, and vain individual. I suspect most people can read between the lines and see that.

Kraken Account, Robbed/Emptied. Kraken say "Fuck you, its your loss": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643

Bitfinex victims. DO NOT TOUCH THE BFX TOKEN! Start moving it around, or trading it, and you will be construed as having accepted it as an alternative means of payment to your USD, BTC, etc.
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August 03, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
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Reminder that mat likes the victim role. He intentionally points his naked ass in the air, and then complains about how much being butt fucked hurts. This is why he has "reasons" for not turning his bitcoins into fiat. He wants to be a martyr.

Edit: Hat tip to sgbett for an even better analysis. It is the same basic psychological profile, but he said it so much better.

Fuck u Ibian!

Where is all ya Bitcoin profits gone? Up in smoke is where, and Bitcoin is right back down below your cost average buy-in price, and knowing that puts a smile on my face, u stupid thick skulled pig ignorant cunt.

Did u enjoy the ride down to $450 like I told you was gonna happen?

$560 now though....soon all will be well again for you hodlers, right?



I never got my funds out of Finex, cos I just so happened to have misplaced my mobile phone (required for 2FA) when the time was opportune for doing so (I convert USD to BTC, BTC to LocalBTC, and then to GBP). I had my limit orders on Finex when I realised I had no way of doing the 2FA to withdraw from the site. I phoned the person in whose home I had left my mobile, but no joy. By the time I had my mobile back in my possession, the wedge was getting very thin, and I was fearing large dumps all the way down to $500 and below before I could get all my worthless vaporous BTC converted into GBP. Those big dumps did indeed come, and did indeed start before Finex got hacked.

When Finex got hacked, I never had BTC in my account, I had USD. I should be fine so long as Finex is able to continue to operate solvently. If they are insolvent, then I guess the losses shall be socialised. Whatever happens, I shall be cutting any financial involvement with BTC, permantently and whatever happens, and however much I end up losing, I know that your own losses will add up to so so much more.

u stupid fucking cock.
We are more than a hundred bucks off your magical target. I am still very much in the black. And you know what I will do if we ever do go below my average buyin? I will buy more.

And you are doing the letters instead of words thing again. Come on, it's too easy a tell.

Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.
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August 03, 2016, 06:16:52 PM
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We are more than a hundred bucks off your magical target. I am still very much in the black. And you know what I will do if we ever do go below my average buyin? I will buy more.


Great stuff!!!

Keep it up!

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August 03, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
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There are two opposed psychologies among humans. It's a scale, not absolute categories. mat and me are on opposite ends. You are somewhere in the middle, and therefore unable to differentiate.


I am just a little bit of a headcase Ibian.

You on the otherhand are a rather vile, thin skinned, and vain individual. I suspect most people can read between the lines and see that.
This is called projection, ladies and germs. The r-psychology is unable to accept its own defects, and so project them onto their opponents.

Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.
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August 03, 2016, 06:35:29 PM
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This is called projection, ladies and germs. The r-psychology is unable to accept its own defects, and so project them onto their opponents.

lol.

Ibian, the 'K-strategist', who has been pissing all his wealth into the blackhole that will soon be known as Bitcoin, the first ever but now sadly defunct, cryptocurrency.


P.S. Don't pay too much attention to the 'philosophy' of Stefan Molyneux....the guy is a raging hell-bent narcissist.

Kraken Account, Robbed/Emptied. Kraken say "Fuck you, its your loss": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559553.msg15656643#msg15656643

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August 03, 2016, 06:37:34 PM
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Stef didn't come up with it (although his gene wars series is excellent for people who dislike books). And I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Look inside yourself, and you will see that you are the bubble.
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August 03, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
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If you need to trade USD, why wouldn't you just trade on coinbase or gemini?
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August 03, 2016, 10:21:25 PM
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If you need to trade USD, why wouldn't you just trade on coinbase or gemini?

No margin, and no volume.

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August 04, 2016, 09:06:10 AM
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My main BTC are offline and hopefully beyond reach.
I use fiat derivatives (IG) to speculate on the price.

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August 04, 2016, 10:05:23 AM
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You are mentally *short* on bitcoin, that looks like a really dangerous trade from where I am stood.

Correct.

Except b4 I learned about even what a MACD was...I did make thousands trading Bitcoin, and my instinct did kick in right at the top, and I did get out at the top, and I did buy the first big drop, etc etc.....I also bought the 2nd drop, but it dropped much further than I anticipated and I ended up taking a $2K hit on a trade that would have turned into a $6K win had I just held for another couple of weeks......

......I then decided to start learning a little about TA. Since then, I have lost way more than I have won in Bitcoin. I forgot about Bitcoin for a long time, bought in $200 range in 2015, then got all fucked up once again in the Nov 2015 FOMO and then the Nov Panic Sell, and ended up losing a fucking packet once again....I then decided to learn TA properly, and pay to do an online trading course.

Since then, I have made more profit than loss, but the Kraken theft has eaten into much of those profits and if my Finex account just dissappears into the ether of corporate insolvency and/or socialised losses....then man oh man......I will sorely regret the day that I even first heard of Bitcoin, which to rub salt in the wounds, was indeed way back in 2011....

....only positive effect that I could say Bitcoin has had on my life so far, is that it has enabled darknet markets, and the procurement of Mescaline.....a truly wonderful substance. Other than that, it has just been a total headfuck and a huge financial drain.......I can't wait to see the back of it tbh.


I also believe that I would be able to trade other assets way more affectively than I do Bitcoin, precisely because of all the emotional turmoil and baggage that I have associated with Bitcoin.


However, sgbett, if you are still long term bullish on Bitcoin, after 120K BTC (which will be slowly drip fed onto the market as a stream of steady selling pressure) was just stolen from by far the biggest  and most liquid USD exchange around, then I really do have to question your wisdom, if not your sanity. Sure, Bitcoin could easily recover $100-$150 at some point in the future. That is what markets do. They go up and down. I was bearish on Bitcoin before these hacks (surprise surprise), and have touted $450 as a downside target for some time, but this massive Finex theft totally reorganises the Fundamental outlook for Bitcoin, and don't forget. $500 is now the price that the Chinese miners need just to break even! Bitcoin is critically ill, and destined for intensive care imo, and I have no interest at all in whether it will pull through in the end or not. There are far better trading opportunities in more stable, and more secure markets, operating on exchanges that aren't just going to vanish with all their customers money.

Confirmation bias.

You are perceiving a narrow future outcome, and taking actions now based on that perception. In doing so you are broaden gin your exposure to the countless other possible future outcomes.

You are being fooled by randomness.

What I am trying to do is consider that all outcomes are possible, bitcoin could go to zero, could replace the global economy or anything in between the two extremes (including going sideways for all eternity). Then act in a way the optimises my interests for any of these scenarios.

My head is not bullish or bearish (emotionally I'm bullish ofc that should be obvious!). I'm minimaxing. Keeping the downside tolerable for the extreme scenario of bitcoin zero, and on the upside tempering my FOMO of the other extreme. Obviously anything in between is acceptable.

Its the pragmatic choice. All I have to deal with is my heart and its emotional reactions to the buys and sells along the way (buy when I have cash to spare, sell when I need money to pay the bills) and when there is outlandish price action try and take advantage, cream a little off on the way up, double down when its crashing (i.e. like yesterday and today).

Don't sweat the ill timed big buys - long term they usually end up being blips as the y-axis extends with each new bubble. If it goes to zero, then it doesn't matter if I have 25% more worthless coins than the next guy.

The worst case is I have a 25% smaller yacht than the guy who bought 2 days later. Thats not such a bad problem to have though Smiley

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August 07, 2016, 12:48:11 PM
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After having been the only person on earth to be goxed by both Kraken and Finex in the same week, I'm confident Mat will be back for round two of casino gulag Finex when it reopens.

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August 07, 2016, 03:12:06 PM
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After having been the only person on earth to be goxed by both Kraken and Finex in the same week, I'm confident Mat will be back for round two of casino gulag Finex when it reopens.


No chance of that.

a) I no longer have the funds to make it worthwhile (I am still 50/50 whether I am going to get anything out of Bitfinex, anytime soon)
b) Even if I did, I would be insane to entrust any significant amount of funds to any Bitcoin exchange, period.

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c) my decision making is fucking atrocious.


People who have difficulty and/or confidence in making decisions, have no business trading. Trading is the ultimate decision making game.


And the amount of times that I have agonised over the fact that I had my limit orders set on BFX, in order to get my BTC off and turned into GBP, only  to have discovered that I had left my mobile phone at my mothers, and when I called my mother for 2FA code, she wasn't in, etc etc.... I am the type of person that reads a lot of meaning into these things.....I had exactly the right idea in my head, i.e. "Get everything off BTC exchanges!", yet a cruel conspiracy of coincidences, sees that despite *knowing* to get the fuck off the motorway, I am still standing around in the middle of it, staring gormlessly at the speeding tanker heading right towards me.

This sounds all too familiar with my experiences trading. Often have the right ideas, but just have a knack of making the wrong decisions time and time again.


Failing a personality/karma transplant, I got to get the fuck away from this shit otherwise I will get my ass handed to me (already have).


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August 14, 2016, 12:12:40 PM
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I think you might be a democrat.  Far leftists are always focused on playing the underdog or victim, and according to your sig, you have been both robbed and victimized.  When you see a picture of Obama, does it conjure inspirations of voting for you?

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August 14, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
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Mister roach, are you by any chance familiar with r/K?

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August 15, 2016, 05:58:27 AM
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Lots of people got goxed by bitfinex, Roach. Fuck you for blaming Mat. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see bitcoin crash and burn - I'd gladly lose my profit bitcoin value knowing assholes like you would take a bath.
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Lots of people got goxed by bitfinex, Roach. Fuck you for blaming Mat. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see bitcoin crash and burn - I'd gladly lose my profit bitcoin value knowing assholes like you would take a bath.

You missed the r0ach prophecy:

I would gladly see Bitcoin go to $0 and lose all my money as long as Mat took an all-in long first just to see what he typed after it happened or if Bitfinex would be blamed in some type of way.


But Mat would never do such a thing like trading Bitcoin or putting money on Bitfinex due to his past statements:


these markets are just not to be traded

I can't reasonably expect to be able to play these markets

The majority who invest money in a vacuos asset like Bitcoin are certain to lose

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