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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530805 times)
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December 08, 2016, 11:22:32 PM
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I placed an order for an S9, but first time this has happened:
Paid
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I paid, but it expired?

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December 08, 2016, 11:33:14 PM
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I placed an order for an S9, but first time this has happened:
Paid
Unshipped
Expired
I paid, but it expired?

This happens all the time with them. Their system needs 6 confirms within the first hour I think. If that does not happen then it goes to "expired" and they have to push it through manually.

Just wait a day or two and they will correct it without you asking. If you still see it has not changed status in more than 2 days then just let them know. The key is not to panic. If you sent the payment to the correct address then you will be fine. All the proof is in the blockchain. The blockchain is your friend.  Wink
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December 08, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
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I placed an order for an S9, but first time this has happened:
Paid
Unshipped
Expired
I paid, but it expired?
Try contacting support, they have lots of issues.
I wanted to order 7 of them but wire transfer isn't available
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December 08, 2016, 11:49:54 PM
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I placed an order for an S9, but first time this has happened:
Paid
Unshipped
Expired
I paid, but it expired?
Try contacting support, they have lots of issues.
I wanted to order 7 of them but wire transfer isn't available
What is their support email?
Couldn't find it on their site.
I'm assuming support@bitmain.com ?

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December 09, 2016, 12:27:44 AM
Last edit: December 09, 2016, 01:57:04 AM by Biodom
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paid, unshipped, expired is just cute.
I would do nothing, they will manually confirm in am, especially if they already moved your btc out of payment address.
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December 09, 2016, 01:33:40 AM
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paid, unshipped, expired is just cute.
I would do nothing, they will manually confirm in am, especially if they already moved you btc out of payment address.

Cool, thanks!
So nothing to worry about? Don't need to email them?

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December 09, 2016, 01:59:14 AM
Last edit: December 09, 2016, 02:17:59 AM by Biodom
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paid, unshipped, expired is just cute.
I would do nothing, they will manually confirm in am, especially if they already moved you btc out of payment address.

Cool, thanks!
So nothing to worry about? Don't need to email them?

I didn't, but it is up to you.
Incidentally, their website said on the payment page that they will manually confirm all payments that were made/initiated within an hour.

EDIT: 13.5 just disappeared from the shop altogether. Strange batch with no numbers whatsoever.
i hope that they will put something out, otherwise electrical characteristics are unknown.
Maybe it was a premature release?
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December 09, 2016, 02:47:49 AM
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paid, unshipped, expired is just cute.
I would do nothing, they will manually confirm in am, especially if they already moved you btc out of payment address.

Cool, thanks!
So nothing to worry about? Don't need to email them?

I didn't, but it is up to you.
Incidentally, their website said on the payment page that they will manually confirm all payments that were made/initiated within an hour.

EDIT: 13.5 just disappeared from the shop altogether. Strange batch with no numbers whatsoever.
i hope that they will put something out, otherwise electrical characteristics are unknown.
Maybe it was a premature release?

I read somewhere that these S9s on sale were originally allocated for their Hashnet cloud mining farm - probably surplus units.

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December 09, 2016, 03:02:57 AM
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You were right, just takes much longer than I expected to boot up fully.
Though on the new autoset firmware, even 20 minutes still didn't connect.
Rolled back for now.

Still at 5.6th?

Up to around 7-8TH
Looks like I lost one of the three boards?
Sounds about right. You get separate stats for each board. Can you get a pic?

Just 2 lines, so yeap one is down, tried switching everything up, dead board?

The little red light just behind the hash cable is probably off on that board,= board dead.

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December 09, 2016, 03:07:43 AM
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paid, unshipped, expired is just cute.
I would do nothing, they will manually confirm in am, especially if they already moved your btc out of payment address.

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December 09, 2016, 03:10:53 AM
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I think these were indeed surplus units or the few miners that couldn't quite reach the 14Ths promised from the last batch. Either way they are gone for good now.

I am a bit worried about bitmain not stocking new units, between the way the last batch went down and the fact that they have gone bitcoin only. Could this change indicate that they are shutting down sales of S9 for a while/forever? Could that last batch of R4 sales be just to get rid of surplus frames and stock from the first R4 batch a few months ago?

I wonder if bitmain will suddenly shut down miner sales for 6 months or more like they did at the end of the S5. They gave no notice of when they would stop sales or for how long, they just did.
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December 09, 2016, 03:27:43 AM
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Tim for BITMAIN to release a 30TH 4U rackmount unit!
Bit better build quality please..
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December 09, 2016, 03:39:58 AM
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Tim for BITMAIN to release a 30TH 4U rackmount unit!
Bit better build quality please..

But with multiple integrated psus? Probably. I bet it costs a lot more per ths than a S9 just did. If what your talking about exists that is. I've never heard of such a thing.
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December 09, 2016, 03:53:35 AM
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Tim for BITMAIN to release a 30TH 4U rackmount unit!
Bit better build quality please..

SP50 dreams live...via Bitmain? Possible, but shipping is a problem.
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December 09, 2016, 04:12:45 AM
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Tim for BITMAIN to release a 30TH 4U rackmount unit!
Bit better build quality please..

SP50 dreams live...via Bitmain? Possible, but shipping is a problem.

3 s9s running off a 4k DPS-2500 is really close to that dream.

To all those that fear no new gear if bit-main cuts off sales buy from Avalon or bitfury as they will have some for sale.

I think what we won't see for two years is a 0.05 watt miner

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December 09, 2016, 07:10:28 AM
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Looks like they are confiscating gold from India's people. Jewelry also.
And to balance that with the Official stance:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-tax-on-jewellery/gold-purchased-out-of-disclosed-income-Finance-Ministry/articleshow/55724734.cms
It is Gold from undisclosed income they are after.

Most Indian's don't trust banks because they have had so many failures of the last century, they store wealth in wearable gold instead. The I-T Act allows the seizure of gold including jewellery if you have more than $19K per married lady, $8.5K per unmarried lady and $3.8K per male. You then have to prove where you got it from to get it back. Good luck with that in a country where the average worker is paid in cash with no receipt.
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December 09, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
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I think these were indeed surplus units or the few miners that couldn't quite reach the 14Ths promised from the last batch. Either way they are gone for good now.

I am a bit worried about bitmain not stocking new units, between the way the last batch went down and the fact that they have gone bitcoin only. Could this change indicate that they are shutting down sales of S9 for a while/forever? Could that last batch of R4 sales be just to get rid of surplus frames and stock from the first R4 batch a few months ago?

I wonder if bitmain will suddenly shut down miner sales for 6 months or more like they did at the end of the S5. They gave no notice of when they would stop sales or for how long, they just did.

may be yes may not..i think they will restock next month after xmas / new year 2017 or may be they are gonna release s10/s11. The btc difficulties is jumping like crazy....
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December 09, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
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Tim for BITMAIN to release a 30TH 4U rackmount unit!
Bit better build quality please..

SP50 dreams live...via Bitmain? Possible, but shipping is a problem.

3 s9s running off a 4k DPS-2500 is really close to that dream.

To all those that fear no new gear if bit-main cuts off sales buy from Avalon or bitfury as they will have some for sale.

I think what we won't see for two years is a 0.05 watt miner
With some crafty engineering you could do this,
It would be nice to have 9 blades on one controller, in an enclosed 4u case, more fans, power supplies could be in a 2u rack etc.

I think cooling, ease of use. etc. would be pretty nice.
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December 10, 2016, 12:16:34 AM
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So, Bitmain did not release any info on 13.5 Th machines.
This is odd. Perhaps, it is an average of 12.93 and 14? The number is close enough (13.46) that I start to think that it could be the case.
Oddball machines that were rejected, then brought back. Or machines with mixed autotuning boards.
If it is just a population average, then this would be unfair from the perspective of those who will get essentially a 12.93 Th machine.
We shall see. Radiosilence from BMT on the issue so far.
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December 10, 2016, 12:57:40 AM
Last edit: December 10, 2016, 01:09:24 AM by sloopy
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Biodom I agree it would be nice to see information.
I would like to hear from anyone who purchased the last couple of batches.
Are the QC issues corrected with the hash board failures?

I have very few S9s left and with the power usage it can be a good machine. My personal experience has not been good regarding failures.
Bitmain Warranty have repaired several and I managed to spend the time on one.

The BTC hardware landscape has been difficult most of the time. At least it isn't pre-order ripoffs.
It is fairly difficult to grab a unit from one of these non-announced S9 Sales. Not that I would be first in line to buy one, but they sold out fast so are they going "all over" in any significant amount?
 - I do not think Bitmain can build mining equipment fast enough. Between their own use, the huge contracts they have for other large-scale miners, deals with other equipment manufacturers, and the cash. Man it must take quite a few people just to count all the money rolling in. It is said they can control bitcoin in almost every way, especially the price, if they need to limit the amount of equipment in use, especially "competing" against them, why not only deal with large money deals for a while? I bet they seriously cannot build them fast enough... If they want to do so. Magic Money boxes indeed. (With boards that fail, arggg)
I do want to see an S9+, but not an increase in hashpower. I want to see an S9 perfected. Running at the originally quoted hashrate without needing to be screwed with.

Hashpower growing while form factor remains the same or shrinks is a great thing, but, when we have a significant portion of hash rate in one hash board we need the ability to stock spares and I would like to hear positive news regarding the failure rates? Have they diminished?

On another note how difficult can it be to hide BTC on the blockchain, or get it off? Very fucking difficult to do something with, if someone is determined.

I am still running several underclocked S7s, thanks to:

sidehack and co:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504228.0

RadekG and co:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1420909.0

These guys and the people posting feedback, contributing to the threads help us.
Throw them tips if you can, I know sidehack is always trying to do something to help miners be better miners.

By the way, which chain is which board when looking at the S9?
I have searched through this thread and google FUd it, but in my case the FU may mean something else. I'd like to see a picture showing which port on the board controls which hash board. I have to go take one apart now so maybe I'll remember this time Smiley

Edit 1:
I found this description:
The HW errors don't look like a problem but that reported hashrate sure does.  You might try swapping where the hash board is connected on the controller board.  My B3 has 4 connectors on the control board so there is an extra and I have seen another post where someone else said theirs did too.  Looking down at the unit from the top with the intake fan pointing towards you (what I would call the front) I believe that bottom chain in the GUI should be the right hand board. 

Thanks all




 

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