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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530804 times)
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February 07, 2018, 09:22:53 AM
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Affordable miner for hoby miners nice, meaby i will one get one.

minimum order is  5

you pay $2700 + 5 PSU + shipping for getting 20TH at 5kW

S9 has 13.5TH at 1.4kW for 2320+105+160=2590



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February 07, 2018, 11:01:13 AM
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Affordable miner for hoby miners nice, meaby i will one get one.

minimum order is  5

you pay $2700 + 5 PSU + shipping for getting 20TH at 5kW

S9 has 13.5TH at 1.4kW for 2320+105+160=2590





What?.... can't see purpose of that.

Who is this talented mathematician?

5*345 = 1725$

And there is one retarded competitor in this segment https://pangolinminer.com/product/m3-stock-vii/
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February 07, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
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OK, I think it is about time someone checks what-to-mine for the new Antminer and share the results

S9 14 th/s and ~1300w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~230 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

V9 20 th/s and ~5000w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~100 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

I really cant understand the logic, maybe for huge mining investments with cheap electricity or alternative means of power, this modular system would be worth, but otherwise...

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February 07, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
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OK, I think it is about time someone checks what-to-mine for the new Antminer and share the results

S9 14 th/s and ~1300w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~230 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

V9 20 th/s and ~5000w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~100 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

I really cant understand the logic, maybe for huge mining investments with cheap electricity or alternative means of power, this modular system would be worth, but otherwise...

They are getting rid of stock of soon to be redundant chips by repackaging everything into stupid seemingly bite sized machines anyway they can until they bring out the next model. They make more money selling the machines than mining so to hell with difficulty right now as the market is flooded with their stuff, especially after that Pre- Christmas batch which was for sale for over a week. They know exactly what they're doing.

AntPool even stopped paying out for a a few days waiting for BCH/BTC to drop on the way down and then paid out the miners. Total scam artists
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February 07, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
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Just apply a new sticker on top of the S7 miner and undervolt & underclock it a little and voilà you have a 'brand new' V9 miner.  Grin

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February 07, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
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I am scared now because I have so many ant-miner S9 yet to be shipped and I want to buy the new one because the S9 will be worthless once the new one is released. Unless they are trying to advantage of the market drop buy selling as much as possible so when the price climbs they just doubled there $$$

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February 07, 2018, 12:39:45 PM
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OK, I think it is about time someone checks what-to-mine for the new Antminer and share the results

S9 14 th/s and ~1300w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~230 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

V9 20 th/s and ~5000w power consumption with default website power cost, yields ~100 USD/mo with todays Bitcoin price

I really cant understand the logic, maybe for huge mining investments with cheap electricity or alternative means of power, this modular system would be worth, but otherwise...

They are getting rid of stock of soon to be redundant chips by repackaging everything into stupid seemingly bite sized machines anyway they can until they bring out the next model. They make more money selling the machines than mining so to hell with difficulty right now as the market is flooded with their stuff, especially after that Pre- Christmas batch which was for sale for over a week. They know exactly what they're doing.

AntPool even stopped paying out for a a few days waiting for BCH/BTC to drop on the way down and then paid out the miners. Total scam artists

yet people still mine on Antpool!
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February 07, 2018, 02:10:31 PM
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Just apply a new sticker on top of the S7 miner and undervolt & underclock it a little and voilà you have a 'brand new' V9 miner.  Grin

Sorry unless it mines LTC at the same time then it is not profitable at the present BTC/USD price. Best to buy BTC.
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February 07, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
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Just apply a new sticker on top of the S7 miner and undervolt & underclock it a little and voilà you have a 'brand new' V9 miner.  Grin

Sorry unless it mines LTC at the same time then it is not profitable at the present BTC/USD price. Best to buy BTC.

What? How is your post related to my post in any way?  Huh

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February 07, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
Last edit: February 07, 2018, 02:32:00 PM by bl1nd
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I am scared now because I have so many ant-miner S9 yet to be shipped and I want to buy the new one because the S9 will be worthless once the new one is released. Unless they are trying to advantage of the market drop buy selling as much as possible so when the price climbs they just doubled there $$$

S9 on sale for 2 days now the market isnt running to buy new s9's thats a good sign. Also Hashrate has been going down steadily for 3 days.

Price is up

If you can resell your s9's for 1k more than cost, well do it...

Also it is pretty funny how ppl think that moving hash power from China to Canada is so easy, the only way i see big companies like bitmain moving fast to Canada is if they do a joint venture with a canadian mining company. Ppl seem to think somehow that setting up a mining farm is simply moving to a warehouse connect the miners and BOOM DONE, no regulations, nothing HAH... i guess they havent dealt with bureaucracy and all that bs

Sea shipping time, bureaucracy permits etc, hiring new ppl, setting up the whole farm, renting or buying new space, etc etc etc. For examply i know for a fact that a S9 is CSA certified (Canadian Standards association) but i doubt the other equipment they use in China is CSA certified
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February 07, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2018, 04:20:15 PM by Sitarow
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Just apply a new sticker on top of the S7 miner and undervolt & underclock it a little and voilà you have a 'brand new' V9 miner.  Grin

Sorry unless it mines LTC at the same time then it is not profitable at the present BTC/USD price. Best to buy BTC.

What? How is your post related to my post in any way?  Huh

I took your comment as satire "sarcasm" with respects re-branding the S7 to V9 and wanted to add that it's return on investment at present BTC/USD is in the -$.

Here is what it would look like if BTC/USD was at $15,000.00. From what I can see buying BTC at this low rate vs hardware purchase of this type makes business sense.

UPDATE: Here is the document for reference.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing

BTC/USD 15000 NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 10% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS and 2% thereafter.

https://i.imgur.com/VWPahOE.png

BTC/USD $8500 USD NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 10% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS and 2% thereafter.

https://i.imgur.com/8ZIwfis.png

^ updated to reflect proper name and other purchase options, including more accurate near-term network difficulty adjustments.
UPDATE #2: To reflect recent difficulty change.
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February 07, 2018, 02:24:12 PM
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...and a new Antminer V9 in town!

you get 20T for $1725

but you'll have 5 miner + power supply

yeah 5000w for 20 TH/s......eff that noise
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February 07, 2018, 03:01:15 PM
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...and a new Antminer V9 in town!

you get 20T for $1725

but you'll have 5 miner + power supply

yeah 5000w for 20 TH/s......eff that noise

In Venezuela electricity rates are lower than 0.004$ kw/h, also i know some arab countries have almost free electricity

I can see how this is gonna sell pretty well for some miners
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February 07, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
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...and a new Antminer V9 in town!

you get 20T for $1725

but you'll have 5 miner + power supply

yeah 5000w for 20 TH/s......eff that noise

And the heat too, you have x4 more CFM output.

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February 07, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
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yeah 5000w for 20 TH/s......eff that noise

Literally. 79 dB
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February 08, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
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if you have free power and nobody has to listen it's awesome.
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February 08, 2018, 05:43:32 PM
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Do you guys remember the Telegram Notification bot Smiley
Boooy, I miss the time is used to work... for everything but S9's. I haven't got a single notification from it for a week or so.

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February 08, 2018, 05:46:39 PM
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if you have free power and nobody has to listen it's awesome.

Even with free power you still have the cost of the money you put in place and your time along with any import fees and rental costs.

As a space heater then it works well at 9500 USD/BTC getting you a small profit of 0.04BTC over the course of 1.5 years of babysitting.

Antminer V9 4TH 1.5 years operation you save $1,069.72 in power costs if it was 0.10 /KWH

https://i.imgur.com/Og7qGzQ.png

Antminer S9 13.5TH 1.5 year operation you save $1531.00 at 0.10 / KHW original power costs.

https://i.imgur.com/KRG1Ug1.png
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February 08, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
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if you have free power and nobody has to listen it's awesome.

Even with free power you still have the cost of the money you put in place and your time along with any import fees and rental costs.

As a space heater then it works well at 9500 USD/BTC getting you a small profit of 0.04BTC over the course of 1.5 years of babysitting.


An estimated 0.04BTC over 1.5 years. Damn near nowhere certain.

Also out of curiosity because it's very difficult to read that spreadsheet, does that include the large chunk of money you'll get back when you go to sell and upgrade miners in the future or are you just for some reason assuming that it will be a piece of metal to throw in the garbage?
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February 08, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
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if you have free power and nobody has to listen it's awesome.

Even with free power you still have the cost of the money you put in place and your time along with any import fees and rental costs.

As a space heater then it works well at 9500 USD/BTC getting you a small profit of 0.04BTC over the course of 1.5 years of babysitting.


An estimated 0.04BTC over 1.5 years. Damn near nowhere certain.

Also out of curiosity because it's very difficult to read that spreadsheet, does that include the large chunk of money you'll get back when you go to sell and upgrade miners in the future or are you just for some reason assuming that it will be a piece of metal to throw in the garbage?

Great question.

Unfortunately I have not had a request for this. However I can add it.

Like selling and keeping your overhead low and perhaps using these as heating sources in place of conventional heaters.

The reality is you can depreciate the asset over time to get tax savings.

UPDATE: Option value added for End of life sale located at P:24

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