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March 07, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
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Nope, i wont add cpu mining becasue when fee system comes you will have option to select cpu mining as fee ...

Hmm, can be problem, because ZEC miners use the CPU for GPU mining.
Some people can´t use the intensity parameter -i 8, because slow CPU...

I hope for only small fee (i have only 3 GPU) and CPU mining for fee is not sollution Sad

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March 07, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
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I am not calculating thi too well but
30H/s in morenro at +30 watts would give you:
1,5 $ revenue per month
-3$ electricity cost
= - (minus) 1,5$ per month


120H in monero at +60 watts woudl give you
5,7 $ revenue per month
- 7,3$ electricity cost
= - (minus) 1,6 $ per month

IF my calculations are correct becasue i didnt tested how mining cpu will increase wattage, those are my numbers taken from head and not backed up by any experiments.
Either way its totally not profitable to mine for you.
Even it would be totally unprofitable to pay me fee in this way but if someone has free power or doesnt care, or cant pay via btc then this is the way to go.

Tell me how do you see/calculate this ?

Note that  idle procesor takes much less watts tna 100% busy one Smiley
Its not "free" Tongue
And also as pbuva said there are some issues with loading cpu.
Thats why i just need to do some tests if it will make any sense for me and for end user. (and propably it wont)

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March 07, 2017, 12:43:49 PM
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Hi T - on your CPU mining subscription option - for me I would like to support this by using a dedicated CPU mining rig.

This way, that rig could be a powerful CPU... probably 1 or 2 of them will be equivalent to the entire farm.
For example a dozen Celeron 1840 or G4400 maybe equivalent to 1 x i5 or 2 dozen = i7 or 4 dozen = 1 Rzyen.
The above for example only  Grin. I plucked it from the sky for example only.

Like pbuva mentioned below, some coins like ZEC in conjunction  with Claymore miner, uses the CPU quite a bit.

Btw, for the sgminer7 idea, have done some more digging and i think your are right. It may be a good idea to include this miner but its rather short-term and specific to X11 coins like DASH, Adzcoin etc. They are hot coins now... but a true profit switching miner must be also aggressive in multi algo-switching too like Nicehash Windows Miner. If only there is a LINUX version of that. I wonder if Nicehash has that version.

Moreover, anything X11 or Scrypt algos should not be mined using GPU because there are ASIC miners for that.

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March 07, 2017, 12:43:54 PM
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So tell me if i am calculating this wrong.
But if i am not wrong then i must think really hard if this makes any sense to implement (even as a fee for me )
It will cause unnesesery problems only and more work for me.

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March 07, 2017, 12:45:56 PM
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Moreover, anything X11 or Scrypt algos should not be mined using GPU because there are ASIC miners for that.

Yep.
So conclustion: only eth,zec,monero algho are good to mining right now.

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March 07, 2017, 12:56:44 PM
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So tell me if i am calculating this wrong.
But if i am not wrong then i must think really hard if this makes any sense to implement (even as a fee for me )
It will cause unnesesery problems only and more work for me.


is it possible to show CPU load in dashboard for every rig?

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March 07, 2017, 01:41:33 PM
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No,
you can do that only by ssh to rig and executing command: htop
Anyway my rigs showing 10-30% average CPU usage on Cheapest Intel Celeron for 24$ (Procesor INTEL® Celeron™ G1840 2.8GHz)

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March 07, 2017, 02:11:22 PM
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Nope, i wont add cpu mining becasue when fee system comes you will have option to select cpu mining as fee ...

Hmm, can be problem, because ZEC miners use the CPU for GPU mining.
Some people can´t use the intensity parameter -i 8, because slow CPU...

I hope for only small fee (i have only 3 GPU) and CPU mining for fee is not sollution Sad
Would this be the reason why I cant get the rates I should be when mining zec no matter what drivers or clocks I use or -i I just cant seem to get my cards where there supposed to be and whats even crazier is when I put -i 8 on my 290 all other cards 390,280,270 rates get cut in half I tried win 7 and 10 but my cpu is AMD Sempron 145 which is like useless.

I really like simpleminer but cant use it on this rig because of the mixed cards I cant set individual clocks which sucks
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March 07, 2017, 02:44:49 PM
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Always try Beta Kernel.
And yes, still there isnt tool for setting clocks, i am working on it( talking to somebody who has it and can sell it)

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March 07, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
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No,
you can do that only by ssh to rig and executing command: htop
Anyway my rigs showing 10-30% average CPU usage on Cheapest Intel Celeron for 24$ (Procesor INTEL® Celeron™ G1840 2.8GHz)


however.... for ZEC mining, I use Optiminer 1.7, Celeron 1840/8GB RAM.. the CPU is almost full constantly.

This rig is 6 x R9-Nano (-100mV ROM MOD) currently only -i 6 not -i 8..... and CPU is almost maxed.


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March 07, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
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Load is 4 so its mottlenecking your speed propably Smiley

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March 07, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
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Load is 4 so its mottlenecking your speed propably Smiley

LOL.... the rig is running 100% off a R-smOS SSD... I dont know of any other program running on the SSD  Grin

Maybe other ZEC miners using smOS can also share their results.


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March 07, 2017, 04:47:13 PM
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Hello,

I just checked our zcash rigs, we use claymore zec instead. More hashrate and 20% CPU load for 5-6 gpus rigs.

Hope this helps.
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March 07, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?
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March 07, 2017, 05:30:24 PM
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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds

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March 07, 2017, 05:34:16 PM
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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds


Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

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March 07, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds


Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

Maybe it's just us that dont know how this optiminer fully works, but we had a big difference between zec claymore and optiminer. (280x: 256-265 on optiminer and 290-310 for zec claymore).

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Last edit: March 07, 2017, 06:54:45 PM by citronick
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Just switched from win10+claymore eth8.0 to mining OS and noticed that eth minig is a bit slower than win10. I have about 132.5 MH/S from 5 x rx470 in mining OS and 136.5 MH/S in win 10.How to fix speed?

Linux works differently then win10
Plus overclocking with bios mods will work differently too
Most of claymore stuff is specifically made for win10 and optimized for it
He puts it together for Linux but isn't as focused on it as his win10 builds


Claymore did mention before in his thread that he prefers Windows.
Meanwhile, in the ZEC world Optiminer prefers Linux....

Maybe it's just us that dont know how this optiminer fully works, but we had a big difference between zec claymore and optiminer. (280x: 256-265 on optiminer and 290-310 for zec claymore).


I get around the same with Claymore 12.2 and Optiminer 1.7 however I see some power savings on Optiminer.
I switched to Optiminer a few days ago because of memory leak issues in v12.2 (supposed to fixed) but Claymore said that he will be updating 12.3 soon to address the memory and -i issues.

Optiminer 1.7, R9-Nano: 380-420, R9-390: 360-390, RX480: 280-290. (except for 390, Nano and 480 are with low power rom mods)

Note: I usually avoid RX480s for ZEC, it performs better on ETH but since selling Equihash at Nicehash is now #2 at whattomine.com -- the RX480s have to work overtime.


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March 07, 2017, 06:25:53 PM
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So sad. I really like how mOS is easy to setup. But i can't take a 5-7$ less profit from each rig.
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where did you get these numbers?

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