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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234304 times)
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September 24, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
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I have install bytebal and when i try open it not open.what to do fix this?

What operating system do you use and do you see an error message?
Win 10 64 bit

If you don't see a specific error message, try to uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Before reinstalling the wallet make sure to delete your user data folder first, it's at c:\users\<your_username>\appdata\local\byteball-test.

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September 24, 2016, 11:38:07 AM
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Great move sir.

Ill update portuguese thread in a few hours.

Gratz to your work

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September 24, 2016, 01:21:17 PM
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Italian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625648 (thank you davide72!)

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September 24, 2016, 01:30:18 PM
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Today, I've posted the tweet about Byteball's chatbot in the IOTA #random channel (this channel is usually used for everything that doesn't fit in the other channels, often about other unrelated projects and a lot of crypto news).

Guess what? I'm banned now:

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You recently tried to sign in to iotatangle, but it looks like your account for that team is disabled. We're sorry about that!

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September 24, 2016, 01:33:42 PM
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Italian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625648 (thank you davide72!)

Great! Could Davide please translate the thread title also because I want to tweet about it and there is not much more text as the title fitting in the tweet!  Smiley

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September 24, 2016, 01:40:48 PM
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May you added copy and paste in private key?
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September 24, 2016, 01:42:17 PM
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Today, I've posted the tweet about Byteball's chatbot in the IOTA #random channel (this channel is usually used for everything that doesn't fit in the other channels, often about other unrelated projects and a lot of crypto news).

Guess what? I'm banned now:

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Hi CryptKeeper,
You recently tried to sign in to iotatangle, but it looks like your account for that team is disabled. We're sorry about that!

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy




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September 24, 2016, 01:42:56 PM
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Italian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625648 (thank you davide72!)

Great! Could Davide please translate the thread title also because I want to tweet about it and there is not much more text as the title fitting in the tweet!  Smiley

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Italian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625648 (thank you davide72!)

Great! Could Davide please translate the thread title also because I want to tweet about it and there is not much more text as the title fitting in the tweet!  Smiley

yes i will do right now!

Thanks, please retweet: https://twitter.com/cryptkeeperbtt/status/779748335829786624
(link updated!)

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September 24, 2016, 08:13:06 PM
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Italian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625648 (thank you davide72!)

Great! Could Davide please translate the thread title also because I want to tweet about it and there is not much more text as the title fitting in the tweet!  Smiley

yes i will do right now!

Thanks, please retweet: https://twitter.com/cryptkeeperbtt/status/779748335829786624
(link updated!)

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September 24, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
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It dawned on me today that relative to Bitcoin market cap most people own such a tiny amount that even if instantly the market cap of byteball is a few million the average guy with 5-20 btc will end up getting like a few dollars worth. I get that it's free but anyone wanting a decent amount may as well wait for exchanges.
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September 24, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
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This worked well when I paired both my phone and my desktop, however pairing two of my desktop apps didn't work. I copied the pairing code from device1 and emailed it to myself, I then added it as a new device on device2, however, device1 appears with the name New (in device2's list of paired devices), whereas it should've been the name device1 was configured with.
The name should update when device1 comes online.

It is true that I paired my devices when one of them was off-line, however, now that device1 is online, nothing has changed. I was wondering if this could've happened because I mistyped the pairing code ... (well I copy/pasted it so that's not very likely, but you never know).

To check that, did you try to pair again?
Also, can you chat between the two devices?

On the mobile wallet I have two issues:
- When the wallet is synching, the blackbytes screen overlaps on the bytes screen, it comes on top of it then goes back then comes up ....
Not sure I get what you mean.  If you could do a screen recording, that would be helpful.

- I also did get this error once:
http://imgur.com/a/gzQ7T
I received 3 crash reports with this error.  It can theoretically happen if two copies of the app are running at the same time or some other process is trying to access the app's files.  Android should not allow this (unless the phone is rooted).  Can you remember what you were doing just before you saw this error for the first time?

Also something that I find inconvenient is that even when a device is paired with another, their address are not automatically added to the address book, moreover there is no send payment button (in the chat interface).
I'm afraid there is some confusion here.  There are two types of addresses: payment address (called just address) and device address. 

Device address is permanent per device, it is used for communication (including chat), devices learn each other's device addresses and public keys (just a device address is not enough) when they are paired.  Device addresses are never written into the public database. 

Payment addresses are similar to Bitcoin payment addresses, we generate a new address for each payment.  The address book (available from "Send" tab) lists payment addresses, it cannot be populated when devices are paired.

There is no "send payment" button in chat because you don't know the correspondent's payment address before he generates a new address and sends it to you.  Once he does, you click the address (it is automatically highlighted) and pay.

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September 25, 2016, 01:09:31 PM
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Version 0.4.0 released https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

Bugfixes and improvements:
* Fixed bug when the app wouldn't start after you deleted wallet seed
* Fixed bug when the app wouldn't start after you deleted all the wallets (if you did that, an upgrade is not enough, you have to also delete the app data folder)
* Blackbytes are now called blackbytes instead of cryptic asset ID
* More user friendly display of payment request (thanks CryptKeeper for suggestion)
* Do not allow to change payment address, amount, and asset when handling a payment request (thanks CryptKeeper for spotting the bug)
* Do not require seed backup (thanks kaicrypzen for spotting the bug)
* Better selection of signing addresses when paying in indivisible assets such as blackbytes
* More space around command links in chat for easier tapping on touch devices

Please upgrade.
Android version is already in Google Play, should update automatically unless you disabled auto-updates.

https://twitter.com/ByteballOrg/status/780032035977064448

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September 25, 2016, 01:30:10 PM
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Rtd!! Wink
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September 25, 2016, 02:22:36 PM
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To link your byteball and bitcoin addresses, you’ll need to make a small BTC payment to a one-time bitcoin address created specifically for you.  Next, you consolidate all your bitcoins on the one address you paid from that we know is controlled by you (if you have only one bitcoin address, you skip this step as all your bitcoins are already on a single address).  Then the number of bytes and blackbytes you receive on the launch date will be proportional to the BTC amount on your linked address in a specific bitcoin block (e.g. in block 437000 which is expected late October - early November).  The detailed instructions and the exact block number will be posted later when we get ready for launching the livenet.




tonych, I have a question to the bold marked sentence. If I make a tx with the small amount to prove my ownership of my BTC address, then this amount goes to the Byteball specific one-time BTC adress but the rest of my BTCs goes to the another address what has been created of the BTC Core Wallet. How can it be proved, how many BTC i had on the first address? They are all gone to the another adress, that the wallet has made. Could you please make a instruction how to make it properly. Thank you.

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September 25, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
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i try download wallet win.32 , how long time syncron?
more 30 minute still not syncron
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September 25, 2016, 02:48:07 PM
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To link your byteball and bitcoin addresses, you’ll need to make a small BTC payment to a one-time bitcoin address created specifically for you.  Next, you consolidate all your bitcoins on the one address you paid from that we know is controlled by you (if you have only one bitcoin address, you skip this step as all your bitcoins are already on a single address).  Then the number of bytes and blackbytes you receive on the launch date will be proportional to the BTC amount on your linked address in a specific bitcoin block (e.g. in block 437000 which is expected late October - early November).  The detailed instructions and the exact block number will be posted later when we get ready for launching the livenet.

tonych, I have a question to the bold marked sentence. If I make a tx with the small amount to prove my ownership of my BTC address, then this amount goes to the Byteball specific one-time BTC adress but the rest of my BTCs goes to the another address what has been created of the BTC Core Wallet. How can it be proved, how many BTC i had on the first address? They are all gone to the another adress, that the wallet has made. Could you please make a instruction how to make it properly. Thank you.

You are absolutely correct - the address you paid from may become empty after this micro payment.  What's more, your total balance is probably already fragmented over many various sized outputs, and the coin selection algorithm in your wallet will most likely choose a coin that already had very small balance (the smallest over 0.001 BTC) which doesn't say anything about your total balance.

That's why we have the second step:
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Next, you consolidate all your bitcoins on the one address you paid from that we know is controlled by you
Essentially you move coins within your wallet, so that they are consolidated on the linked address.

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September 25, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
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i try download wallet win.32 , how long time syncron?
more 30 minute still not syncron

It takes more than an hour.
I haven't had a chance to properly test win32 version, please report any errors you may encounter.

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September 25, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
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What is reqfired to android?
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September 25, 2016, 03:38:47 PM
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To link your byteball and bitcoin addresses, you’ll need to make a small BTC payment to a one-time bitcoin address created specifically for you.  Next, you consolidate all your bitcoins on the one address you paid from that we know is controlled by you (if you have only one bitcoin address, you skip this step as all your bitcoins are already on a single address).  Then the number of bytes and blackbytes you receive on the launch date will be proportional to the BTC amount on your linked address in a specific bitcoin block (e.g. in block 437000 which is expected late October - early November).  The detailed instructions and the exact block number will be posted later when we get ready for launching the livenet.

tonych, I have a question to the bold marked sentence. If I make a tx with the small amount to prove my ownership of my BTC address, then this amount goes to the Byteball specific one-time BTC adress but the rest of my BTCs goes to the another address what has been created of the BTC Core Wallet. How can it be proved, how many BTC i had on the first address? They are all gone to the another adress, that the wallet has made. Could you please make a instruction how to make it properly. Thank you.

You are absolutely correct - the address you paid from may become empty after this micro payment.  What's more, your total balance is probably already fragmented over many various sized outputs, and the coin selection algorithm in your wallet will most likely choose a coin that already had very small balance (the smallest over 0.001 BTC) which doesn't say anything about your total balance.

That's why we have the second step:
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Next, you consolidate all your bitcoins on the one address you paid from that we know is controlled by you
Essentially you move coins within your wallet, so that they are consolidated on the linked address.



Thanks for the quick response and for the clear explanation.
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