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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1233955 times)
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September 28, 2016, 01:33:53 AM
Last edit: September 28, 2016, 02:29:04 AM by galaxiekyl
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pls, wht means : "to restor your wallets, you will need full backup of Bytesball setting. Just the wallet seed is not enough."

how i must save my wallet to restor it ?

You need to backup the entire wallet data folder, its location depends on your platform: https://github.com/byteball/byteball#byteball-backups-and-recovery.
But doing it is not practical, as you'll have to back up again every time you send or receive blackbytes (which are only saved in this folder).
A better option is to set up a multisig wallet with redundancy (such as 1-of-2 or 2-of-3) on multiple devices, which ensures that in case one of the devices fails you will still be able to use the wallet on the other device(s).  All devices will have a copy of the private payments (blackbytes).

yu say first 100k wallet loader will receive an part of 1% of all bytesball..yu talk of bytesball test or bytesball after beta..how you will distribute them ?

This is about livenet.
There is a long way ahead before we actually start to distribute this 1%, we will probably distribute only to mobile wallets after phone number verification.

hmm..i see..i can paired my current wallet or i must create new wallet to use multi-sig ?

If someone want testing pair device i will submit her request.. dont pluck me :-))

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September 28, 2016, 02:17:28 AM
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It dawned on me today that relative to Bitcoin market cap most people own such a tiny amount that even if instantly the market cap of byteball is a few million the average guy with 5-20 btc will end up getting like a few dollars worth. I get that it's free but anyone wanting a decent amount may as well wait for exchanges.

Yeah and there's a non-zero chance you will lose your BTC somewhere during the steps of consolidating your coins to a single address, making the identification tx, and sending it all back to a new cold wallet.

I for one will be claiming all the free byteball I can. No need for petty excuses.

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September 28, 2016, 03:06:24 AM
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i cant send blackbytes i dont understand..it doesnt work ?

sorry but i think its a mistake..i creat multi-sig wallet but i already claim blackbytes today..so i cant receive blackbytes on my new wallet because i not blackbytes address..so i must wait testnet faucet attribute me an blck-B address otherwise its fucked !?
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September 28, 2016, 08:55:02 AM
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pls, wht means : "to restor your wallets, you will need full backup of Bytesball setting. Just the wallet seed is not enough."

how i must save my wallet to restor it ?

You need to backup the entire wallet data folder, its location depends on your platform: https://github.com/byteball/byteball#byteball-backups-and-recovery.
But doing it is not practical, as you'll have to back up again every time you send or receive blackbytes (which are only saved in this folder).
A better option is to set up a multisig wallet with redundancy (such as 1-of-2 or 2-of-3) on multiple devices, which ensures that in case one of the devices fails you will still be able to use the wallet on the other device(s).  All devices will have a copy of the private payments (blackbytes).

yu say first 100k wallet loader will receive an part of 1% of all bytesball..yu talk of bytesball test or bytesball after beta..how you will distribute them ?

This is about livenet.
There is a long way ahead before we actually start to distribute this 1%, we will probably distribute only to mobile wallets after phone number verification.

hmm..i see..i can paired my current wallet or i must create new wallet to use multi-sig ?

Create a new multisig wallet: Menu -> Add wallet -> Multidevice wallet.
Pair two devices that you own, e.g. desktop and phone.

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September 28, 2016, 08:59:40 AM
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i cant send blackbytes i dont understand..it doesnt work ?

sorry but i think its a mistake..i creat multi-sig wallet but i already claim blackbytes today..so i cant receive blackbytes on my new wallet because i not blackbytes address..so i must wait testnet faucet attribute me an blck-B address otherwise its fucked !?

The one claim per 24 hours restriction is per device, not per wallet.  If you added a multisig wallet based on two devices, you can still request blackbytes from the device you didn't request from in the previous 24 hours.

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September 28, 2016, 07:46:55 PM
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i cant send blackbytes i dont understand..it doesnt work ?

sorry but i think its a mistake..i creat multi-sig wallet but i already claim blackbytes today..so i cant receive blackbytes on my new wallet because i not blackbytes address..so i must wait testnet faucet attribute me an blck-B address otherwise its fucked !?

The one claim per 24 hours restriction is per device, not per wallet.  If you added a multisig wallet based on two devices, you can still request blackbytes from the device you didn't request from in the previous 24 hours.


i already claim on 2..but the problem is i cant send bk-b if testnet faucet doesn't attribute me an address..so if a new user has not claim bk-b by testnet..i cant send him bk-b !

I hope this will be resolved in beta wallet.
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September 28, 2016, 08:44:52 PM
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Short question: Is there a newsletter? I didn't find one on the website, so I assume no?
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September 28, 2016, 09:01:18 PM
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i already claim on 2..but the problem is i cant send bk-b if testnet faucet doesn't attribute me an address..so if a new user has not claim bk-b by testnet..i cant send him bk-b !

I hope this will be resolved in beta wallet.

Why? You can.  You start a chat with the other user, he sends you his address, you click it and pay in blackbytes.

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September 28, 2016, 09:02:33 PM
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Short question: Is there a newsletter? I didn't find one on the website, so I assume no?

Follow our twitter instead: https://twitter.com/ByteballOrg

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September 28, 2016, 09:40:24 PM
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Short question: Is there a newsletter? I didn't find one on the website, so I assume no?

Follow our twitter instead: https://twitter.com/ByteballOrg

What are those addresses in default witness list?

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September 28, 2016, 10:59:50 PM
Last edit: September 28, 2016, 11:09:59 PM by galaxiekyl
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i already claim on 2..but the problem is i cant send bk-b if testnet faucet doesn't attribute me an address..so if a new user has not claim bk-b by testnet..i cant send him bk-b !

I hope this will be resolved in beta wallet.

Why? You can.  You start a chat with the other user, he sends you his address, you click it and pay in blackbytes.

I try but when i send i this alert message: impossible to send for privat asset, need récipient device address to send private payload to..

But when i open pair chat i cant submit à request because i not bk-b in my wallet.

So without bk-b address i cant receive bk-b or send..otherwise said new wallet cant receive bk-b.
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September 29, 2016, 08:43:35 AM
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i already claim on 2..but the problem is i cant send bk-b if testnet faucet doesn't attribute me an address..so if a new user has not claim bk-b by testnet..i cant send him bk-b !

I hope this will be resolved in beta wallet.

Why? You can.  You start a chat with the other user, he sends you his address, you click it and pay in blackbytes.

I try but when i send i this alert message: impossible to send for privat asset, need récipient device address to send private payload to..


Please click the address in chat, not just copy and paste the address.

But when i open pair chat i cant submit à request because i not bk-b in my wallet.

You don't need to submit a payment request, just send your address in chat.

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September 29, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
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I am foolowing you twitter acount.
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September 29, 2016, 09:03:20 AM
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nice, a lot of activity in here, is the mainnet distribution date settled already ?

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September 29, 2016, 09:03:56 AM
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What are those addresses in default witness list?

They are the addresses of witnesses.  The Main Chain, which goes through the DAG, gravitates to transactions authored by the witnesses, and it serves to establish order among transactions and resolve conflicts resulting from double-spends.  See page 9 of the white paper for more details.

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September 29, 2016, 09:16:35 AM
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nice, a lot of activity in here, is the mainnet distribution date settled already ?

Planned for early November but subject to change.  Watch this thread.

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September 29, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
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Chinese translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1629924.0 (thank you HyperChain!)

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September 29, 2016, 09:30:07 AM
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Does playing with the testnet yeild any main net coins? i mean unless you are the first 100k wallet?

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September 29, 2016, 10:17:50 AM
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Does playing with the testnet yeild any main net coins? i mean unless you are the first 100k wallet?

It doesn't yield any main net coins, but helps build better quality software by the time it is allowed to work with real money.

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September 29, 2016, 11:57:34 AM
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What are those addresses in default witness list?

They are the addresses of witnesses.  The Main Chain, which goes through the DAG, gravitates to transactions authored by the witnesses, and it serves to establish order among transactions and resolve conflicts resulting from double-spends.  See page 9 of the white paper for more details.

I got this. But whom do these addresses belong to? Do they all belong to you, or do you have a team of witnesses? Who are they?


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