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Author Topic: [ANN] Firo (FIRO) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup  (Read 664131 times)
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January 13, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
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If u think so its ok.

I see what i see. We will look in 6 month who was in right...

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January 13, 2017, 09:05:07 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?
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January 13, 2017, 09:09:58 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. And to be honest, you would have thought it was negative news with the uncertainty of the fork and honestly, it could have gone either way. Exchanges were worried and there was the threat of delisting during the whole Gary/Poramin fiasco. The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover. Those who lost faith dumped (many did). Those who believed it was an opportunity bought (which I assume includes the whale).

We were also trying to explore options on whether we could reach a settlement with Gary to smooth the issue over but that failed too. I couldn't make any announcement here until I was sure that we were in the clear and that we had all the miners/exchanges on our side.

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January 13, 2017, 09:10:48 AM
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If u think so its ok.

I see what i see. We will look in 6 month who was in right...
In 6 months time there will be 10 more zero knowledge protocol coins, some of them without this drama.
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January 13, 2017, 09:11:51 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. 
Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things
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January 13, 2017, 09:12:41 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?

Yes I am part of the Team... my status is MEMBER like any other can be

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January 13, 2017, 09:14:10 AM
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The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.
Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in
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January 13, 2017, 09:14:57 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?

So, you must be part of the team if you know that. Who are you and what part of the team are you?

Yes I am part of the Team... my status is MEMBER like any other can be
So how do you know what the "team" knows?
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January 13, 2017, 09:15:02 AM
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The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.
Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in

You are the pro man... Welcome to my ignore list

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January 13, 2017, 09:20:39 AM
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The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.
Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in

You are the pro man... Welcome to my ignore list

From looking at Bittrex the low was made December 2 2016, around 35,000 sats.
Here is the beginning of  Dec 2 , in this foeum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.1980

All I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily look good, so your "story" aint the most persuasive one
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January 13, 2017, 09:23:27 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. 
Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things

And how are we to announce which is there for u to believe? We said our share, Gary censored us. How do we know who is going to win? You wanted an announcement or for us to be public about information? We said what we could say in our own Slack, how could we have controlled what Gary was saying?

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January 13, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
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The pools were like 'I'll see which one Bittrex supports'. So it could have been a massacre. But it wasn't. The price still dropped understandably and it took time for it to recover.
Not true. the price had already dropped, and IIRC did not even make a new low because the big buyer stepped in

You are the pro man... Welcome to my ignore list

From looking at Bittrex the low was made December 2 2016, around 35,000 sats.
Here is the beginning of  Dec 2 , in this foeum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.1980

All I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily look good, so your "story" aint the most persuasive one

I bought because of this article. it is from 05.12.2016

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January 13, 2017, 10:10:21 AM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. 
Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things

And how are we to announce which is there for u to believe? We said our share, Gary censored us. How do we know who is going to win? You wanted an announcement or for us to be public about information? We said what we could say in our own Slack, how could we have controlled what Gary was saying?

All coins that succeed go through criticism. It's necessary. It's nothing personal.
There was not enough disclosure on here, and it took too long IMHO. This is an unregulated free market so it comes with the territory.
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January 13, 2017, 11:26:11 AM
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Looks like we are going for 150k+ Smiley
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January 13, 2017, 12:44:00 PM
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Buy support now 157 BTC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it's manipulation. No one has that many coins to sell. The insider buying has probably bought around 300,000 coins by now and there is only 800,000 existing.

They don't intend to buy them just to pump the coin.

Well said. Poramin left Vertcoin with no explanation, said he was gonna make the ETH VM and poof.... Gone. The Vertcoin community is pissed and still waiting for Poramin to return.

Watch out for the dump
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January 13, 2017, 01:18:33 PM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on. 
Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things

And how are we to announce which is there for u to believe? We said our share, Gary censored us. How do we know who is going to win? You wanted an announcement or for us to be public about information? We said what we could say in our own Slack, how could we have controlled what Gary was saying?

None of that crap matters.

The lesson for today is a good one.

If you have 7 founders wallets and 1 has been dumped - how many other wallets can be dumped? Lol

6 more wallets to go! The first one brought the price from $8 to pennies....

There is no security in watching "someone's" account balance. You can simply watch as these wallets are emptied, but everyone here is power - less to do anything about it.

What will happen when the next founder wallet is liquidated?
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January 13, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
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Everyone ignore the FUD on here. It's total nonsense. Anyone with half a brain can read back and see what has happened clear as day.

For now enjoy the price going up  Grin Grin Grin

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January 13, 2017, 01:57:59 PM
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Today we Hit 0.002 and next week 0.008 on polo

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January 13, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
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Not insider Trading, everyone of the Slack can read this...

This "investor" has been buying for a while now.

No one from the team know who is buying. Maybey Polo itself?
No, I am also talking about the buyer at 55,000 sats earlier. This happened when there was big confusion and no information about the problems between Poramin and Gary was being released. In the vacuum of information a very large buyer stepped in and bought tens of thousands of coins off investors who did not know what was going on and so understandably sold.

It's likely the same buyer with exactly the same modus operandi. He bids then pulls his bid back then pays up then pulls it back then pays up.

The information was all in the Slack actually about Poramin/Gary and people could see what was going on.  
Rubbish. There were two slack channels, each one asying different things

And how are we to announce which is there for u to believe? We said our share, Gary censored us. How do we know who is going to win? You wanted an announcement or for us to be public about information? We said what we could say in our own Slack, how could we have controlled what Gary was saying?

None of that crap matters.

The lesson for today is a good one.

If you have 7 founders wallets and 1 has been dumped - how many other wallets can be dumped? Lol

6 more wallets to go! The first one brought the price from $8 to pennies....

There is no security in watching "someone's" account balance. You can simply watch as these wallets are emptied, but everyone here is power - less to do anything about it.

What will happen when the next founder wallet is liquidated?

All I can say is learn to read. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.msg17490363#msg17490363

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January 13, 2017, 02:38:07 PM
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Congrats anyone who make such money with obvious PnD money actions, you can see in charts.

The DUMP here will be epic bahahhahaaaaaahahaha, watch!
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