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November 14, 2018, 05:02:37 AM
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I'm not sure why news articles keep regurgitating the same untruths.
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What’s worse is that cryptopia exchange do not admit it. This is not the way to solve this problem.”
Waht did they not admit ? It is published on their website. https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=AU

At least that article explains it accurately:
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However, the fact is, AurumCoin lacked the hash rate to prevent a 51 percent attack


https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=AU

Note the date of the Cryptopia statement: 9 November

Check the date of the Aurumcoin website:
10 November: https://archive.fo/iNLQa
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Cryptopia exchange was hacked, a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

11 November: https://archive.fo/cOcYF
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Cryptopia exchange was hacked (51% attack), a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet. Aurum coin network is not the responsibility of anyone, same as Bitcoin network, it is open source distributed crypto currency. What’s worse is that cryptopia exchange do not admit it. This is not the way to solve this problem.

Whenever there is an issue there is an investigation and a report is made to the relevant authorities. This can take time.
I don't know what the amount of coins were involved but 15K of Aurumcoin was worth around $50K in October. Which is less than the cost of listing a new coin on Cryptopia.

Coins pay to be listed on Cryptopia.

Part of the listing criteria is their ongoing obligations:

https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=5d7482d2db9e9bc032a664a14a96199f

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You need to give us notice of the following:
Major issues with your coin, including hacks or network problems, as soon as you become aware of them.

https://cryptohub.online/ 80% of AU held by Cryptohub stolen
This stolen AU could have been used for the 51% attack.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1165615.1240
Did Aurumcoin inform Cryptopia of previous 51% attacks ?

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Is your protocol and consensus mechanism secure? We may decline coins we think are vulnerable to 51% attacks.

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Be aware of our delisting policy and your ongoing obligations:

Cryptopia reserves the right to remove any coin listed in its exchange markets for violations of our listing terms. This is solely at our discretion. Reasons a coin may be eligible for delisting include, but are not limited to:

Any network issues or vulnerabilities that could be exploited. Examples include:
Low hash-rate.


Reason to delist:
https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=b8aa010ddb452b80d7e096888a961934

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The following criteria are required to be met by coin projects at the time of the listing:
 
Active and visible development team with at least two contacts given to Cryptopia (Lead Developer and CEO or Marketing Representative).

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Below is a list of factors that are being constantly reviewed by our Cryptopia Service Delivery Team that may result in a token/ coin being delisted:

The token/ coin no longer meets our listing criteria.
A loss of, or poor communication between coin teams and our Cryptopia Listing Team.
Project is abandoned, *e.g.: No visible coin team, no working block explorer, no active updates on code repo, or no working website.
The token's/ coin's blockchain becomes compromised or there exists a possibility to be compromised based on hash rate, namely a 51% attack.


Disclaimer:  I am not Cryptopia staff. I am a volunteer moderator for their trollbox and discord channel and user of their services. Cryptopia does not have staff that answer questions on Bitcointalk as it is not recognized as an official communications channel. I am not authorised to provide any statements on behalf of Cryptopia. This is personal opinion only.

When a 51% attack occurs it means that the coin blockchain is neither immutable nor decentralized.

When a 51% attack occurs the transactions that occur and the blockchain mining is entirely controlled by the attacker.

In order for a 51% attack to occur the blockchain (which is coded by Aurumcoin Developers) provides confirmations that appear on the block explorer which is provided by Aurumcoin (part of the listing conditions) which are produced by the nodes (which use the code produced by the Aurumcoin developers). These confirmations are then accepted by the wallet code (which is made and provided by Aurumcoin).  These confirmations are later rejected by the Aurumcoin network and orphaned. The transactions that now make up part of the blockchain were privately mined and not broadcast publicly. It is a clear exploit of the Aurumcoin Blockchain.

A coin network can prevent a 51% attack by:

Providing sufficient mining reward.
Utilizing a hybrid POW, POS network (or masternodes).
Making the algorithm that is ASIC resistant to make it difficult to rent sufficient hashrate to perform an attack.
Introducing checkpointing.
Utilizing other technical solutions.


An exchange can prevent a 51% attack by:

Not accepting any deposits / de-listing a coin.


An exchange can make a 51% more difficult by:

Increasing required confirmations to over 200 confirmations
(More confirmations will just result in longer / more costly attacks)
Time-locking user funds so they cannot withdraw it from the exchange.


I explained it here: 51% attacks explained

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November 14, 2018, 05:28:48 PM
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Great if this such a small deal (all AU stolen from cryptopia is worth less than listing a coin to cryptopia)
Then bring me back my coins!!!
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November 14, 2018, 06:51:51 PM
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Hey guys, I know it happens often to the site but never got this problem since, and today is the first time a message is displayed "Deposits under investigation, etc" It's already 3 or 4 days since. How many days on average it usually take to Cryptopia to resolve such issues? Can it takes over a week?

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Hey guys, I know it happens often to the site but never got this problem since, and today is the first time a message is displayed "Deposits under investigation, etc" It's already 3 or 4 days since. How many days on average it usually take to Cryptopia to resolve such issues? Can it takes over a week?

Disclaimer:  I am not Cryptopia staff (neither is Lafu). I am a volunteer moderator for their trollbox and discord channel and user of their services. Cryptopia does not have staff that answer questions on Bitcointalk as it is not recognized as an official communications channel. I am not authorised to provide any statements on behalf of Cryptopia. This is personal opinion only.


Every situation is different.

You need to talk to Cryptopia directly (via their official support system)

It is likely that they are unable to provide a timeline if it is an ongoing investigation involving external agencies.







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November 15, 2018, 01:46:12 PM
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Okay I see, I didn't know Lafu and You were just volunteer moderators. But at the same time, I thought to myself if there is a member who is passing through here and who already experienced this situation... I'll wait until early next week before creating a support ticket, not in hurry yet, thanks btw  Smiley

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We can try to inform some things to the staff and admins ,
sometimes its just a little thing and the problem is solved but other problems or real importend things about accounts on cryptopia you have to create a Support ticket ! 

We just try to inform Users here and the same way back to the Support team if we get some Infos ! 

We looking to help how far it is going and as Xtraelv told we do this volunteer !
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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.
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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.


Obviously you can't read and live in a fantasy world.

1) I've clearly stated previously numerous times that I am not Cryptopia staff nor authorized to speak on their behalf.
2) You want Cryptopia to pay you 1,280usd per coin for a coin that traded for less than $4 when the exploit occurred and has not had any volume sales since.
3) You blame Cryptopia for an exploit that happened entirely on the Aurumcoin network, that hasn't been fixed, hasn't been re-embursed and the coin devs are  attempting to shift the blame. No attempt by Aurumcoin has been made to identify the attacker nor re-emburse for any loss that occurred due to an exploit on the coin network they created.
4) You and Aurumcoin keep on making proven false claims that negatively affect the investments that I have.
5) A coin that you shill and appear to represent caused a loss to me.

How much further do you want to take this ?

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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.


Obviously you can't read and live in a fantasy world.

1) I've clearly stated previously numerous times that I am not Cryptopia staff nor authorized to speak on their behalf.
2) You want Cryptopia to pay you 1,280usd per coin for a coin that traded for less than $4 when the exploit occurred and has not had any volume sales since.
3) You blame Cryptopia for an exploit that happened entirely on the Aurumcoin network, that hasn't been fixed, hasn't been re-embursed and the coin devs are  attempting to shift the blame. No attempt by Aurumcoin has been made to identify the attacker nor re-emburse for any loss that occurred due to an exploit on the coin network they created.
4) You and Aurumcoin keep on making proven false claims that negatively affect the investments that I have.
5) A coin that you shill and appear to represent caused a loss to me.

How much further do you want to take this ?
1. So shut up
2. Yes or let me withdraw my AU
3. Yes! They could mine, manage the nodes and see anomality, they were robbed and they have fault.
4. I only care about my investements.
5. Only time will tell

I recomend not to invest in cryptopia, because they freez markets and dont bring back coins.
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Since yesterday (21 November 2018),

HSHARE (HSR) has been put into delisting status due to a coin swap that Cryptopia has decided not to participate in. HSR will be fully delisted on 21 December 2018.
 
Trade markets are now closed, and we recommend cancelling any open orders of HSR on your account so that all held balances are available for withdrawal.
 
To ensure that your funds are off the exchange before HSR is removed, please withdraw any balances to a wallet where you control your private keys before going through the swap process.
For additional information on how to swap your HSHARE to HCASH, please refer to the following links.

Links and Info about the Swap

Cryptopia is in no way endorsing these links or their safety.
Please take absolute care and observe best practices regarding internet safety.

Medium: https://medium.com/@media_30378/the-hsr-hc-public-swap-tool-has-been-launched-5a0db2543749

Swap Tool: https://swap.h.cash/


Source :    https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=0c2bb33adbf12f0052d2ef728a961978

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Hi.

How can I work with you guys? Giving support in spanish.
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Here is why they are giving signs of scam and fraud:

Chapter 1:

The announcement

https://i.imgur.com/xoBi7IJ.png

Chapter 2:

The freezed transaction

https://i.imgur.com/pc1BdqB.png

Chapter 3:

Lost transaction? Lost BCH?


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No answer, no news, no support, no coins in wallet! Meanwhile Poloniex immediately refreshed the availability after the fork, they did not even asked you to withdraw.

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After conducting a thorough review, it has been determined that the following coins no longer comply with our Listing Policy and as such,
will be permanently delisted on the date provided. Trade markets are now closed, and we recommend cancelling any open orders.
If you are currently holding a coin listed below, please withdraw any remaining balances to a compatible wallet at your earliest convenience.


The coins displaying an asterisk (*) have broken blockchains or wallet that will not allow withdrawals.
This issue is not due to Cryptopia but caused by a problem with the underlying blockchain or wallet associated with that coin.
Please do NOT contact us about this issue as there is nothing we can do to assist.
Any queries or issues locating a compatible wallet or block explorer should be directed to the coin's developers.



The Date behind the Coins is the final delisting !



CrowdCoin   CRC          15/12/2018
HSHARE   HSR              21/12/2018
AC3   AC3                  10/01/2019
Atomiccoin   ATOM      10/01/2019
BeachCoin   SAND      10/01/2019
BERNcash   BERN      10/01/2019
Bitcoal*   COAL      10/01/2019
BitDeal*   BDL          10/01/2019
BlazeCoin   BLZ          10/01/2019
BnrtxCoin   BNX          10/01/2019
Bongger   BGR              10/01/2019
BorgCoin   BRG          10/01/2019
BVBCoin   BVB              10/01/2019
CannabisIndustryCoin*XCI10/01/2019
CareerCoin   CAR          10/01/2019
C-bit   XCT              10/01/2019
Coin2   C2              10/01/2019
Coinonat   CXT          10/01/2019
CoinonatX   XCXT      10/01/2019
CompuCoin   CPN          10/01/2019
CopperCoin   COPPER      10/01/2019
CryptoJacks   CJ          10/01/2019
DaxxCoin*   DAXX      10/01/2019
EDRcoin   EDRC          10/01/2019
EducoinV   EDC          10/01/2019
ElaCoin   ELC              10/01/2019
EmbargoCoin*   EBG      10/01/2019
Eryllium   ERY          10/01/2019
FeatherCoinClassic FTCC 10/01/2019
FlutterCoin   FLT          10/01/2019
FuelCoin   FC2          10/01/2019
Gapcoin   GAP              10/01/2019
Halcyon   HAL              10/01/2019
Havecoin   HAV          10/01/2019
InCoin   IN              10/01/2019
Influxcoin   INFX      10/01/2019
Kronecoin   KRONE      10/01/2019
LanaCoin   LANA      10/01/2019
LiteBar   LTB              10/01/2019
LitecoinUltra   LTCU   10/01/2019
MagicCoin   MAGE      10/01/2019
MarijuanaCoin   MAR      10/01/2019
Mars   MARS          10/01/2019
Money   $$$              10/01/2019
NevaCoin   NEVA      10/01/2019
NyanCoin   NYAN      10/01/2019
Om   OOO                  10/01/2019
OzzieCoin   OZC          10/01/2019
Quark   QRK              10/01/2019
Quatloo   QTL              10/01/2019
Qubitcoin   Q2C          10/01/2019
RonPaulCoin   RPC          10/01/2019
SJWCoin   SJW              10/01/2019
Songcoin   SONG      10/01/2019
SoonCoin   SOON      10/01/2019
Spots   SPT              10/01/2019
StartCoin   START      10/01/2019
TopCoin*   TOP          10/01/2019
WayaWolfCoin   WW      10/01/2019
WorldCoin   WDC          10/01/2019

Source :     https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=7373dae9dbf4af0052d2ef728a961972
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How would you comment the Bitcoin Cash situation in Cryptopia? What is happening? When will it be resolved?
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Cryptopia has generally NEVER supported any forks and disclose this.
In order to take part in a fork or swap you need to withdraw funds before they put the wallet into maintenance.
Leaving it to the last day is never a wise move. Allow more than 48 hour prior to a fork. (Network congestion and wallet congestion being potential issues + it also doesn't leave time to fix any technical issues). Making a support ticket just hours before the fork is happening when the problem is due to a technical issue is unlikely to get it resolved in time. A transaction cannot be processed when the wallet is in maintenance. The issue cannot be resolved until the wallet is out of maintenance.


https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=bcee7178db8e1b4032a664a14a961919

As the answer to the support ticket that you posted shows - they cannot resolve the issue  (i.e. rebroadcast the transaction) until the wallet is out of maintenance.


Bitcoin Cash wallet is in maintenance. This can be viewed on the coininfo page.
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=BCH

I do not expect them to take it out of maintenance soon since the BCH network does not yet have replay protection and there are inherent risks involved.



Disclosure: Cryptopia does not monitor bitcointalk. As a volunteer chat moderator I am not Cryptopia staff and am not authorized to make statements on their behalf.

Here is why they are giving signs of scam and fraud:

Chapter 1:

The announcement

https://i.imgur.com/xoBi7IJ.png

Chapter 2:

The freezed transaction

https://i.imgur.com/pc1BdqB.png

Chapter 3:

Lost transaction? Lost BCH?


=========
No answer, no news, no support, no coins in wallet! Meanwhile Poloniex immediately refreshed the availability after the fork, they did not even asked you to withdraw.

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November 29, 2018, 09:57:34 PM
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Hi, I've made a TRX withdrawal from Cryptopia 10 days ago, and even by now, it doesn't show up in my Tronlink wallet. My transaction id 21924f6fa4a0c3891ff9575914118d7aa205c7d8f22c804ee41ba9e25184c05c, I opened a support ticket but got no answer.
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Hi, I've made a TRX withdrawal from Cryptopia 10 days ago, and even by now, it doesn't show up in my Tronlink wallet. My transaction id 21924f6fa4a0c3891ff9575914118d7aa205c7d8f22c804ee41ba9e25184c05c, I opened a support ticket but got no answer.
Most likely your transaction was stuck because they put TRX wallet in Maintenance since 11-22-18, just like in other cases you'll receive it after they fix the issue. If when, only the support could tell.

Refer to Cryptopia's Coin Info : https://cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=TRX
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November 30, 2018, 06:43:49 PM
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Cryptopia have reviewed the login process to make it more secure.

This includes another layer of security around unrecognised logins.
If there any questions about this please open a support ticket and ask there.
If users log in from a new IP address they will receive an email that looks like this:


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November 30, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
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Not much different than the current system. When I log in, I already receive an email from where I can lock the account and see the IP.
Location, device, etc are not usually needed because when someone else uses your account he usually takes everything out.
Too bad for people with a dynamic IP  Grin Now I hope the team will start to speed up to resolve the problems with the wallets under maintenance for weeks.

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