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November 10, 2016, 06:43:40 PM |
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What people need to understand is humans work on a reward system. The only reason these devs exist is because their is gain to be had. What this looks like to me is big corps trying to piss off the best community miner dev we have. Yes it's closed source but their is good reason for that. We live in a dog eat dog world. I hate it as much as the next guy and when you get a good example of how that shapes human behavior right before your eyes you embrace it. If these devs stop getting rewarded which I'm sure the open source guys aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They worked for tips too. They will stop. As their is nothing in it for them. Always has to be something in it for them. And I know those bitching understand that. And if you don't. You can't say now you haven't been told. If these devs are to be here into the future we must treat them with respect and show them they are appreciated.
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As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
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Vasyok55555
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November 10, 2016, 06:44:25 PM |
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You should always maintain a developer, otherwise there will be a good program. I should not have made it possible to "-nofee", cancel this function. Who does not like it, let them go looking for a hole in the ass (Sorry for the expression)
Bceгдa нaдo пoддepживaть paзpaбoтчикa, инaчe нe бyдeт xopoшиx пpoгpaмм. Зpя дaл вoзмoжнocть "-nofee", oтмeни этy фyнкцию. Кoмy нe нpaвитьcя, пycть идyт ищyт дыpкy нa жoпe (извинитe зa выpaжeниe)
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vel12
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November 10, 2016, 06:48:54 PM |
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You should always maintain a developer, otherwise there will be a good program. I should not have made it possible to "-nofee", cancel this function. Who does not like it, let them go looking for a hole in the ass (Sorry for the expression)
Bceгдa нaдo пoддepживaть paзpaбoтчикa, инaчe нe бyдeт xopoшиx пpoгpaмм. Зpя дaл вoзмoжнocть "-nofee", oтмeни этy фyнкцию. Кoмy нe нpaвитьcя, пycть идyт ищyт в дыpкy нa жoпe (извинитe зa выpaжeниe) eщё oдин pyccкий-кoнeчнo зpя нe xoчeшь xaвaть иди cпи oни плaчyтcя ooo devfee
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osnwt
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November 10, 2016, 06:49:34 PM |
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I think there is more of a difference between drivers on Linux. Maybe speed difference also people with different CPUs? Some have posted their personal optimizations, but it is hard to judge typical speeds for sure.
CZM 1.1 gave me similar speeds for Windows and Linux on the same machine with RX470 x 2, 1GB or RAM and very old and slow CPU. Other Linux miner was not able to give the same due to high CPU requirements. Now the same machine runs 4.0 under Windows. So, at least one problem with "other miner" is high CPU usage. I don't like to use Linux because in general it is a royal pain to set things up. I would use it to get 6 cards on ASrock H81 BTC PRO boards, but when I set up, was dual mining, and can't undervolt in Linux. Some cards I can bios mod, so I could do it now, I just don't want to mess with it, and Win7 can do 5 cards with some MB Bios changes. I have used it before from time to time, and tried getting it going on HTPC, but ran into too many issues. Also When Ubuntu changed to new garbage UI, turned me off more. I know you can switch window managers, or use diff distro, but that's also more work. If I wasn't as busy, and have 5 kids, I would consider it more. I use Ubuntu Server VMs for work some though (web/android dev). So not against it, I just use what works best for me. I would tell the same Re: Windows. For headless rigs it is a pain in the ass. I used to run ubuntu off 1GB USB flash and never had any problem. Neither had GUI. Now I have to use 16GB USB flash and run Windows 10 To Go from them. I miss ssh for configuration. It's not about money, there are several reasons why I'm not going to release ZCash miner for Linux in near future - most of haters who say that I stole SA engine are on Linux so let's they use some different miner. Also I don't like to see as someone applies IDA to my miner to see how it works. All those may switch to Windows and continue running your miner. Also for those who concerned, it is not too difficult to run IDA on decrypted Windows code. It's just a matter of skills and efforts. Formally say, they studied your code the same way as you might study theirs (open source), and I didn't remember where your readme files explicitly prohibited reverse engineering. Still, I understand you (because somehow I am similar to you in that regard). But a lot of users miss Linux version, still being able to run Windows if no other comparable option exists yet.
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TR8888
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November 10, 2016, 06:53:35 PM |
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Thanks for your work.
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Ursul0
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November 10, 2016, 06:54:09 PM |
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But Claymore. Maybe some more options for -i parametr.
I got 6x R9 390 in a rig. And whe use -i 2 I got 100% CPU load, -i 1 I got 100% CPU load and -i 0 I got 25-33% CPU load. I cant load my CPU correctly.
Same here. We need a -i 0.5 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Dual core celeron club ? count me in lol I get ~77-85% CPU usage on G1840 celeron with 4x 470 8GB cards with -i2. Similar usage per card on low end APU. Think it is more of issue with single core, or 6 card rigs. It would be nice to have more choices though, like make it 0-5. 4 card is ok for G1840, more is 100% load and loose of hs. I didnt get any difference betwin -i 1 and -i 2. I have 5*470 4G with 4G RAM on H87 anniversary with celeron, all 5 are doing 55-60, with faster cpu can go 65+
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reachr
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November 10, 2016, 06:54:33 PM |
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Superb work Claymore !
47 Sol on R7 370 72 Sol on 7950 and 67 Sol on RX470 8Gb
Thanks you.
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denis1995
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November 10, 2016, 06:55:00 PM |
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Holly shit, with 3.1, i total 610S/s on 3 rigs for exactly 1004W at the wall! Lol 1.64W/S ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks claymore!! With what cards and config?
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xeridea
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November 10, 2016, 06:57:21 PM |
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I think there is more of a difference between drivers on Linux. Maybe speed difference also people with different CPUs? Some have posted their personal optimizations, but it is hard to judge typical speeds for sure.
CZM 1.1 gave me similar speeds for Windows and Linux on the same machine with RX470 x 2, 1GB or RAM and very old and slow CPU. Other Linux miner was not able to give the same due to high CPU requirements. Now the same machine runs 4.0 under Windows. So, at least one problem with "other miner" is high CPU usage. I don't like to use Linux because in general it is a royal pain to set things up. I would use it to get 6 cards on ASrock H81 BTC PRO boards, but when I set up, was dual mining, and can't undervolt in Linux. Some cards I can bios mod, so I could do it now, I just don't want to mess with it, and Win7 can do 5 cards with some MB Bios changes. I have used it before from time to time, and tried getting it going on HTPC, but ran into too many issues. Also When Ubuntu changed to new garbage UI, turned me off more. I know you can switch window managers, or use diff distro, but that's also more work. If I wasn't as busy, and have 5 kids, I would consider it more. I use Ubuntu Server VMs for work some though (web/android dev). So not against it, I just use what works best for me. I would tell the same Re: Windows. For headless rigs it is a pain in the ass. I used to run ubuntu off 1GB USB flash and never had any problem. Neither had GUI. Now I have to use 16GB USB flash and run Windows 10 To Go from them. I miss ssh for configuration. It's not about money, there are several reasons why I'm not going to release ZCash miner for Linux in near future - most of haters who say that I stole SA engine are on Linux so let's they use some different miner. Also I don't like to see as someone applies IDA to my miner to see how it works. All those may switch to Windows and continue running your miner. Also for those who concerned, it is not too difficult to run IDA on decrypted Windows code. It's just a matter of skills and efforts. Formally say, they studied your code the same way as you might study theirs (open source), and I didn't remember where your readme files explicitly prohibited reverse engineering. Still, I understand you (because somehow I am similar to you in that regard). But a lot of users miss Linux version, still being able to run Windows if no other comparable option exists yet. I have 6 windows rigs, and manage all from one computer. You can remote desktop without a monitor plugged in. Claymore updates take me less than 5 minutes for all 6. With remote monitor, life is easy.
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Profitability over time charts for many GPUs - http://xeridea.us/chartsBTC: bc1qr2xwjwfmjn43zhrlp6pn7vwdjrjnv5z0anhjhn LTC: LXDm6sR4dkyqtEWfUbPumMnVEiUFQvxSbZ Eth: 0x44cCe2cf90C8FEE4C9e4338Ae7049913D4F6fC24
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vel12
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November 10, 2016, 06:58:45 PM |
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Holly shit, with 3.1, i total 610S/s on 3 rigs for exactly 1004W at the wall!
Lol
1.64W/S Grin
Thanks claymore!! and your head what grows?
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GabryRox
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November 10, 2016, 07:01:22 PM |
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Getting this error all the time on different pools. What is it ? server: bind failed with error: 10048 (port is busy, use different -mport value), next attempt in 10sec...![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpastenow.ru%2F16XOC&t=665&c=lyFJPZEuz5E3kQ) You have opened the miner more than once. Disable the remote port with "-mport 0". Try rebooting your rig a couple of times. I had the exact same error... then tried to go back to 3.0 but same error then occurred in it as well. Rebooting, ran 4.0 again and no error, but 1 of my GPUs was only getting 5-6 h/r. Rebooted again and all 4 GPUs were working well. Ran at about 220 (4 MSI RX 470s, set at intensity 1) for a few minutes, then busted it up to the 260-265 range! Big speed improvement over even 3.0, which itself was a big jump. Great work as always Claymore!
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November 10, 2016, 07:02:19 PM |
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Running great on all my rigs. Fantastic work! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBzHJehD.png&t=665&c=_hHGUbi9O0G3cw) Multiple rigs with same results as above. 7x 390x @ 1100/1500 for those wondering. Hi. wich motherboard you use? thank you I stick to MSI. That particular rig is either a Z77-GD65 or Z87-GD65. thank you- if you have trusted link where to buy it- im tired of askrock- so diffiecult to buy mining things in norway:S no one mining in th countery. Any board with 7 PCI-e slots will work, really. I keep an eye out for them on my local classifieds. I'm in Canada, so unfortunately have no idea where you might source them in Norway.
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November 10, 2016, 07:03:24 PM |
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Running great on all my rigs. Fantastic work!
[img]https://i.imgur.com/BzHJehD.png[img]
Multiple rigs with same results as above. 7x 390x @ 1100/1500 for those wondering.
What is your from the wall power draw for this rig? Roughly 1500w with 94% efficient PSU.
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vel12
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November 10, 2016, 07:04:26 PM |
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the most profitable graphics card 100h/s r9 390x msi gaming 8g
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November 10, 2016, 07:04:33 PM |
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This SA crap is screwing hundreds of Linux miners. The nofee option is absurd, Claymore probably works 24/7 on his code optimizations and this is the reason for devfee. Otherwise what's the point to burn his brain cells to update mining software really FAST.
I'm sure majority of Linux users don't really care about source. Let's face it - we are stuck with binary blobs like fglrx/amdgpu-pro anyway. Personally i'm on Linux because of stability and management ease, pssh rocks. Also i happen to disagree with Microsoft policies and attitude. We all know that Windows may be very easily "cured" from licensing issues, however what's the point of using such a product if there are legal alternatives. I guess i'll start to rebuild miner images with kvm and GPU-passthrough support to avoid similar situations...
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November 10, 2016, 07:06:53 PM |
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Anyone have any results with the MSI RX 470 GPUs?
Hey Aries... I just started running 4.0 on my rig a few minutes ago and am getting 62-67 per MSI 470 4GB on my rig. As you might remember, I tried to model my GPU mods after yours. I got 2 of them close to your results but haven't been able to get the other 2 over 1900 Mhz. Given this, I would expect your 470 rig will get a minimum of 66-67 per GPU with v4.0. Edit: forgot to mention... this is only at intensity setting of "1". Not sure how much more you can get from setting to "2" but I am trying to get my rig as stable as possible before leaving for vacation so don't want to push it too hard.
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November 10, 2016, 07:07:12 PM |
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Running great on all my rigs. Fantastic work! https://i.imgur.com/BzHJehD.pngMultiple rigs with same results as above. 7x 390x @ 1100/1500 for those wondering. Hi. wich motherboard you use? thank you I stick to MSI. That particular rig is either a Z77-GD65 or Z87-GD65. thank you- if you have trusted link where to buy it- im tired of askrock- so diffiecult to buy mining things in norway:S no one mining in th countery. Any board with 7 PCI-e slots will work, really. I keep an eye out for them on my local classifieds. I'm in Canada, so unfortunately have no idea where you might source them in Norway. thank you:) Canada are wonderful country- been there:)
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November 10, 2016, 07:12:29 PM |
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Running great on all my rigs. Fantastic work! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBzHJehD.png&t=665&c=_hHGUbi9O0G3cw) Multiple rigs with same results as above. 7x 390x @ 1100/1500 for those wondering. Hi. wich motherboard you use? thank you I stick to MSI. That particular rig is either a Z77-GD65 or Z87-GD65. thank you- if you have trusted link where to buy it- im tired of askrock- so diffiecult to buy mining things in norway:S no one mining in th countery. Any board with 7 PCI-e slots will work, really. I keep an eye out for them on my local classifieds. I'm in Canada, so unfortunately have no idea where you might source them in Norway. thank you:) Canada are wonderful country- been there:) Canada and Norway, clubbing baby seals to death for a better tomorrow. get a room already.
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November 10, 2016, 07:14:43 PM |
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I agree I have no problem paying claymore the dev fee that's his pay for providing some of the best most stable mining programs out I own a flooring company and I no how it feels for ppl to think I can work for free or want to beat me down on pricing it's bullshit u don't want to pay the fee use a different miner
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
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November 10, 2016, 07:15:19 PM |
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To be fair those damn seals eat all the fish. We need to control them with clubs ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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