[MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Proof-of-Work, launched in 2013

[FiveStarGen]

Hello Moonman,

We have created a new FB community as well:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1316622611739446/

 

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[agswinner]

Hello Moonman,

We have created a new FB community as well:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1316622611739446/

 

👍👍👍

[Travelgiant]

I bought 2.8 million mooncoin and tried to send them to coinomi that I downloaded from  mooncoin site. Now they are missing. I sent to address from bleutrade. Please help.

[TheLogicalDan]

It's crazy how high the volume has been on Bleutrade. Way higher than anything else.

[MajinErnest]

It was much higher tho.. It needs to climb up. We're back on 20+ btc for 2 sat. People be selling it for 1 sat 100 mil coins f.e. I hope we can climb higher!

[pamims]

I'm just really interested in what the developers have to say about the direction they decide to head =) I want more moonword, I want smartlikes, I want moonedu, and I want whatever they decide to do about any problems with the coin to be implemented. I still like the idea of what a PoW/PoS system could do for moonedu and making kids care about their grades. It turns good grades into an investment, but I also understand why their is opposition to proof of stake.

I see a lot of potential in projects built on top of moonword. You could save game level data on moonword, build a videogame core engine that doesn't require larger executable size/external files in the download. You start up the engine of the game and point it to an address on moonword and build the levels. You could implement a social media platform that is the polar opposite of snapchat. I love moonword and want to see it developed further. I really love it. I have a whole host of other ideas as well. I want to see if there's anyone in the Maker community that could utilize moonword in creative projects that need permanent data storage.

Mostly, I am curious as to what the developers have decided as far as their direction to move forward. Keep up the work guys! I am excited to see what you guys put out.

[TheLogicalDan]

This is true. Damn I just wish this was on more trading sites. Oh well, in time, in time.

I too want more moonworld.

[Zareeth]

The Mooncoin volume at Bleutrade today is huger than Dogecoin's and Ethereum's volume combined.
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/MOON/BTC

This is great. People are focusing too much on the 160 vol we had last week, but a more consistent lower volume makes it seem more like a legitimate investment at this stage.

[Evangelo]

I bought 2.8 million mooncoin and tried to send them to coinomi that I downloaded from  mooncoin site. Now they are missing. I sent to address from bleutrade. Please help.

Other than Barrysty1e, is there anyone else who may be able to assist this Moon user, I communicated with him that other users had similar issues with the Coinomi wallet.

[coinflow]

MoonLite has no blockchain and was designed to exist on top of Mooncoin blockchain.

Exactly. That's why I wrote what I wrote. I'd say to fully separate MoonLite as a currency independent of Mooncoin, as it complicates things only. So one can use MoonWord on that and keep the original Mooncoin blockchain clear from that.

Why not to separate smart contracts from Ethereum not to complicate things?
And to leave only a pure Ethereum POS coin (with no smart contracts and other innovations), because people like the name and staking.

Yes the name (and the story) is the best asset, Mooncoin has. We should market it first and foremost. Remember, when you first came to Mooncoin and asked what are the key features, you agreed that Mooncoin has the same potential like Apple as a brand (one does not buy Apple-products, because they are technologically the best (they aren't) or because Apple has the most gimmicks (which it doesn't have). It's the name and the story - and one of the easiest usability, of course.

You know that Ethereum is a completely different beast and really cannot be compared to Mooncoin. It was conceived and constructed from the ground up to use smart contracts. In fact, it is its only unique selling point (besides from its programming language "Solidity", that is complicated and most crypto-experts agree, that it is better to use Stratis for these tasks, as Stratis builds on the widely used C#, and uses PoS, btw.). Smart contracts are its biggest problem, too. Why? Ethereum is assumed to fail by many experts, if it goes into full steam, since its blockchain will be pumped up with data, until it does not work anymore. There is a very good reason, why BTC, LTC etc, don't officially advertise adding any data to their blockchain, other than mere tx-data (it's possible to add some additional data just like with MoonWord, yes, but it is not published as a feature or marketing-gag by the other coins; as said, for a reason). The bloated blockchain just is why BTC has its current problems regarding tx-speed. And the economy just decided to run over the core-developers ...

A bloated blockchain is a severe problem for any coin, hence MoonWord is a problem, too.

As for PoS, I have not talked about another copy&pasted PoS, but have asked you (all) to help discuss this creatively.
We could, for example, use a PoS-system that gives a user of one wallet only one vote, regardless of how many coins are into it, they receive the number of coins according to their balance, but could not do a 51%-attack. This danger exists, by the way, any day with hashing, too, and more so as the hashing power is concentrated like today for scrypt-based coins. We could also use a CPU-only-mining-algo (maybe with a slider in the wallet-gui, that can adjust, how much of the CPU is used for mining, so that the computer keeps being usable for other things, if needed). But the most important thing is, that it has to be done quickly, as the problem with the blockchain exists for too long now and will not be solved with a bit more hashrate, as someone could hope. A stuck blockchain for more than 10 or 15 minutes for a coin that propagates 90 sec. block-time is simply unacceptable. Let alone 2-4 hours, like it is at the moment sometimes.

More ideas are more than welcome.

As for innovations: There are many coins that keep it simple and work very well. LTC is the best example. Simply works.
Or look at DigiByte. The key features (from their ann-thread):

- Security
- Speed
- Transaction-volume
- Total Supply
- Flexibility
- Marketability & Usability

Those are real benefits for users, even if that is nothing "innovative" in a cutting-edge-style. As you might remember - there was a similar roadmap for Mooncoin and MOON was even earlier on the market than DigiByte (first posting in their ann-thread: January 10th, 2014; MOON: December 28th, 2013 - see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.0 ). Now compare the market share of DigiByte to Mooncoin. I cannot see any real benefit from SmartLikes and MoonWord. For the known reasons, that I have already explained. We need to do the right things first, really. And if one wants to be first and foremost with the newest and most innovative features (and with this the most risky, because they are not proven) one needs a 100% reliable, competent, quick, comprehensive and capable dev, that can manage any problems fast, with the highest possible attention to detail and very good communication skills. Barry, are you here?

[coinflow]

I see a lot of potential in projects built on top of moonword. You could save game level data on moonword, build a videogame core engine that doesn't require larger executable size/external files in the download. You start up the engine of the game and point it to an address on moonword and build the levels. You could implement a social media platform that is the polar opposite of snapchat. I love moonword and want to see it developed further. I really love it. I have a whole host of other ideas as well. I want to see if there's anyone in the Maker community that could utilize

You really don't need a blockchain for this. Simply store that into a database and be done with it.

[barrysty1e]

Hi all,

The Moonrush web wallet is now complete, entirely web-based, quick and does not require a blockchain download to operate.



Am replicating my development environment onto a VPS; should be live later today.
URL will be posted once up and after some final testing.

james

[barrysty1e]

Anyone who has had issues with the Coinomi wallet; please PM me directly.

james

[nico12321]

Mooncoin added for voting on C-CEX - https://c-cex.com/?id=vote&coin=moon

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

re: a name only or also innovations

DigiByte is another story, listed at Polo, a lot of big Asian investors behind,
and it's innovative.

[agswinner]

Hi all,

The Moonrush web wallet is now complete, entirely web-based, quick and does not require a blockchain download to operate.



Am replicating my development environment onto a VPS; should be live later today.
URL will be posted once up and after some final testing.

james

This is very great! Fabulous !
Thank you James!
MOON wallet for all device! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[Zareeth]

Amazing work James!

I'll put it up on the blog and get word out.

I'm currently compiling information on smartlikes and moonword from older posts (Reading the ANN in it's entirety has been really interesting, I advise everyone to do so if they have the time.)

Once I've got my head FULLY around the processes involved and its possible uses, I'll write up a post targeted at the less tech savvy audience.

[barrysty1e]

As for PoS, I have not talked about another copy&pasted PoS, but have asked you (all) to help discuss this creatively.
We could, for example, use a PoS-system that gives a user of one wallet only one vote, regardless of how many coins are into it, they receive the number of coins according to their balance, but could not do a 51%-attack. This danger exists, by the way, any day with hashing, too, and more so as the hashing power is concentrated like today for scrypt-based coins. We could also use a CPU-only-mining-algo (maybe with a slider in the wallet-gui, that can adjust, how much of the CPU is used for mining, so that the computer keeps being usable for other things, if needed). But the most important thing is, that it has to be done quickly, as the problem with the blockchain exists for too long now and will not be solved with a bit more hashrate, as someone could hope. A stuck blockchain for more than 10 or 15 minutes for a coin that propagates 90 sec. block-time is simply unacceptable. Let alone 2-4 hours, like it is at the moment sometimes.

More ideas are more than welcome.

As for innovations: There are many coins that keep it simple and work very well. LTC is the best example. Simply works.
Or look at DigiByte. The key features (from their ann-thread):

- Security
- Speed
- Transaction-volume
- Total Supply
- Flexibility
- Marketability & Usability

Those are real benefits for users, even if that is nothing "innovative" in a cutting-edge-style. As you might remember - there was a similar roadmap for Mooncoin and MOON was even earlier on the market than DigiByte (first posting in their ann-thread: January 10th, 2014; MOON: December 28th, 2013 - see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.0 ). Now compare the market share of DigiByte to Mooncoin. I cannot see any real benefit from SmartLikes and MoonWord. For the known reasons, that I have already explained. We need to do the right things first, really. And if one wants to be first and foremost with the newest and most innovative features (and with this the most risky, because they are not proven) one needs a 100% reliable, competent, quick, comprehensive and capable dev, that can manage any problems fast, with the highest possible attention to detail and very good communication skills. Barry, are you here?

Agreed; the current difficulty retargeting algorithm is quite harsh and will be revised in a future release.
PoS is a potential solution to the issue; however I feel that it favours the existing crowd, not the newcomer who often will want to test the waters.

I'd hoped to see a fairer PoW algorithm, that does not favour ASICs or farms of high-end GPU; making it fair and possible for anyone who wants to support the MOON network entirely able to, with a chance of earning some for themselves.

Several algorithms have been suggested previously; such as Argon2 or Skein (my own favourites), however ultimately i'd like to hear what the community thinks..

james

[polemarhos888]

Hi all,

The Moonrush web wallet is now complete, entirely web-based, quick and does not require a blockchain download to operate.



Am replicating my development environment onto a VPS; should be live later today.
URL will be posted once up and after some final testing.

james

Good morning from Greece. This web wallet is a very good job. Congratulation !  

I would prefer an algorithm which allows members to do mining with their computer or their wallet too.

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

Coinomi is not officially supported, it's removed from OP and a website a while ago.
There will be another solution for Android.

If you have issues with that, first make sure you understand how it works.
Lightweight clients keep your private keys client side (servers don't know them), but if there are some issues with barrysty1e's server(s),
ddos attacks or anything, you might be not able to get an access to your coins for a while, until server issues are solved.
That's why it's recommended to use full clients or paper wallets.
Anyway, if you see your transaction in any of 5 Mooncoin block explorers, there is nothing to worry about.

Before posting that your coins are lost etc, make sure that
1) you use an up-to-date client
2) your wallet is fully synchronized
3) if you send coins to/from exchanges they wait for a lot of confirmations, so you will not receive your coins immediately
4) sometimes gaps between blocks occur (due to difficulty readjustment algo issues which are going to be fixed in a new release),
so your coins will come with some delay in this case
5) block explorers don't show the transactions immediately, they usually work with a delay (several minutes)
6) lightweight clients may not show your coins if there are server issues.

If you think there is an issue, better post also your TX id or PM it to barrysty1e.