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June 21, 2017, 07:26:14 PM
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@Nico, just a question, do you know what this is?


Does this mean anything to you? If so please enlighten me on what it means to you.

Of course. Mooncoin_Foundation suggested me make a graphic theme for the start page, after I made these pages, Mooncoin_Foundation asked in the Mooncoin thread to donate Mooncoins for my work. You sent 1,000,000 MOON, this is $4 at that time (the price was $0.000004/MOON).

So please correct me if I'm wrong, however, this is all about money to you? Regardless of what the price represents today or what it could represent tomorrow. That's all you could get out of that was the value at "that time"? To see if you're a reasonable and cooperative person. Even though Mooncoin_Foundation asked the thread to donate, I wasn't obligated to do so or was I? Do you know why "I" donated? To reveal your level of compassion, do you care to know why I donated? 

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June 21, 2017, 07:36:27 PM
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Hi,
I have been reading this ANN for almost a month now, I started investing in MOON, and after these last days I wanted to give you my point of view:

1) I am interested in the progress of this coin and project, not in who is the best investor or who did the most for this coin. This is not a showcase, do whatever you want or nothing at all to contribute to the community, nobody forces you to do either way. If you contribute, the community MIGHT appreciate your effort but there is no obligation!

2) In the last 10-15 pages of this ANN there is no information or news at all about the coin, only a race about the logo and who is the best ... guys go play on discord (or any other virtual place) on who is the best one... we really don't care that much

3) democracy is democracy, there is no such thing as weighted votes based on the amount of MOONS ... one vote per person

THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT:

4) the success of a coin is not having few big investors, on the opposite thousands and thousands of small investors (or just curious people) is what makes a cryptocurrency great. So nobody can manipulate the market, no coordinated pump and dumps, nobody can force their own interest on a community, and last but not least everyone feels part of this project even having only 100 MOONS....

So guys, my invite is to lower the tone in this ANN, take fights on another place and share interesting information about MOONCOINS...

Thank you to all that contribute to make this project interesting
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June 21, 2017, 07:39:11 PM
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Just found this Monacoin (MONA) symbol (from the cryptochainer.com website)



Looks pretty similar to a new MOON symbol proposal (if it's with a double-slash).



And may I ask again, is there any concept for the new logo proposal?
E.g. what does it symbolize? A shield or what?

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June 21, 2017, 07:49:29 PM
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In my opinion, rather yes, 1 vote per 1 person, no matter how many MOON he owns (on the other hand, if it's an extremely low amount, a person really might not care too much about whether his decision affects MOON or not, it depends on the general responsibility of a person though, however an user with a lot of MOON anyway will be more careful in his decisions),
also an important question is how can we be sure that there are no fake accounts?
At least here I know old members, I know their accounts are not fake and they almost ALL (who posted) didn't support a new logo proposal for MOON.
It was a good initiative to organize the contest, and now we have a winning logo proposal, but may be it should be improved?
People will agree with a variant which is really great, if they don't support it now, something is wrong.

Of course, democracy is great, but in my opinion there should be also some respect from newcomers to people who had been supporting MOON for years,
and at least newcomers should take into account their opinion, these people saw things and never will recommend or support something bad for Mooncoin.

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June 21, 2017, 08:01:30 PM
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Of course, democracy is great, but in my opinion there should be also some respect from newcomers to people who had been supporting MOON for years,
and at least newcomers should take into account their opinion, these people saw things and never will recommend or support something bad for Mooncoin.

Of course there should always be respect!

But the project needs both:
- "veteran" that put this project on the right track (they will have their cut for sure being early birds in this coin), and know how to make it at least "survive" (and hopefully rock) in this jungle of altcoins
- "newcomers" that  buying this coin are making every effort made by "veterans" more valueable (I said more valueable: more newcomers-> higher capital market -> higher value/price of coin -> higher ubiquity of the coin -> higher visibility among cryptocoins )

So veterans need newcomers and newcomers need veterans.

What they both don't need is endless pages of fight in the community.

P.s. from the moment MOONCOIN became a decentralized cryptocoin nobody can say they own it more then someone else
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June 21, 2017, 08:09:31 PM
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In my opinion, rather yes, 1 vote per 1 person, no matter how many MOON he owns (on the other hand, if it's an extremely low amount, a person really might not care too much about whether his decision affects MOON or not, it depends on the general responsibility of a person though, however an user with a lot of MOON anyway will be more careful in his decisions),
also an important question is how can we be sure that there are no fake accounts?
At least here I know old members, I know their accounts are not fake and they almost ALL (who posted) didn't support a new logo proposal for MOON.
It was a good initiative to organize the contest, and now we have a winning logo proposal, but may be it should be improved?
People will agree with a variant which is really great, if they don't support it now, something is wrong.

Of course, democracy is great, but in my opinion there should be also some respect from newcomers to people who had been supporting MOON for years,
and at least newcomers should take into account their opinion, these people saw things and never will recommend or support something bad for Mooncoin.

Good afternoon again. I agree with the opinion of Mooncoin Foundation. But  It's upsetting to see this disagreement about logo and all these conflicts. We had to deal with the many positive projects that are in progress. However, I continue to be positive for the Mooncoin's future. Smiley  

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June 21, 2017, 08:21:28 PM
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Hi,
I have been reading this ANN for almost a month now, I started investing in MOON, and after these last days I wanted to give you my point of view:

1) I am interested in the progress of this coin and project, not in who is the best investor or who did the most for this coin. This is not a showcase, do whatever you want or nothing at all to contribute to the community, nobody forces you to do either way. If you contribute, the community MIGHT appreciate your effort but there is no obligation!

2) In the last 10-15 pages of this ANN there is no information or news at all about the coin, only a race about the logo and who is the best ... guys go play on discord (or any other virtual place) on who is the best one... we really don't care that much

3) democracy is democracy, there is no such thing as weighted votes based on the amount of MOONS ... one vote per person

THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT:

4) the success of a coin is not having few big investors, on the opposite thousands and thousands of small investors (or just curious people) is what makes a cryptocurrency great. So nobody can manipulate the market, no coordinated pump and dumps, nobody can force their own interest on a community, and last but not least everyone feels part of this project even having only 100 MOONS....

So guys, my invite is to lower the tone in this ANN, take fights on another place and share interesting information about MOONCOINS...

Thank you to all that contribute to make this project interesting

Thank you for sharing your point of view, however, this is not the first disagreement among the community and it will not be the last, you see when this community was small, we offered what we could and used what we had in order to the the ball rolling. There was not structure in a lot of areas because there was no necessity for it. Even when Nico submitted the first alternative logo, there was no consensus of any kind, come to think of it we never really exercised democracy in the thread at all.

However, as we've gained traction and more notoriety, we've had people come from all over in regards to word of mouth, pr, and coinmarketcap data. @Mooncoin_Foundation, I agree with you, however, when it comes to fake accounts here, discord, "Facebook" which what I did witness and other forms of social media we must take precautions regardless. Unfortunately we can't control respect or the like sort because everyone has different views, such as Nico, myself, and the rest of us. Having a consensus for everything based on majority votes gets the job done regardless of the topic, if we do not find efficient ways to address disagreements in any case earlier and more openly, then we will have a more difficult time trying to establish order later in a decentralized community.

On the other note, perhaps we should have a vote on whether Mooncoin should be a dictatorship or democracy??? Seems as though through certain comments of some users this is much deeper than a logo. It's necessary that we maintain compliance and cooperation, if we can't all agree on mutual grounds to at least agree to disagree then all we've been building morally will be in vain.

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June 21, 2017, 08:31:16 PM
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Just found this Monacoin (MONA) symbol (from the cryptochainer.com website)



Looks pretty similar to a new MOON symbol proposal (if it's with a double-slash).



And may I ask again, is there any concept for the new logo proposal?
E.g. what does it symbolize? A shield or what?
I can answer this one for Larrimar; no it does not symbolize a shield. A new outer white ring has actually been added to the logo. The double circles represent the Moon + a coin.

In my opinion, rather yes, 1 vote per 1 person, no matter how many MOON he owns (on the other hand, if it's an extremely low amount, a person really might not care too much about whether his decision affects MOON or not, it depends on the general responsibility of a person though, however an user with a lot of MOON anyway will be more careful in his decisions),
also an important question is how can we be sure that there are no fake accounts?
At least here I know old members, I know their accounts are not fake and they almost ALL (who posted) didn't support a new logo proposal for MOON.
It was a good initiative to organize the contest, and now we have a winning logo proposal, but may be it should be improved?
People will agree with a variant which is really great, if they don't support it now, something is wrong.

Of course, democracy is great, but in my opinion there should be also some respect from newcomers to people who had been supporting MOON for years,
and at least newcomers should take into account their opinion, these people saw things and never will recommend or support something bad for Mooncoin.
So you're basically saying you want a democracy, but only for the older investors? Some guys have just been lurking around the ANN during those years, some newcomers, including myself, have done more for Mooncoin than those lurkers.

Like you said, 1 vote per person and it was 32 votes against 4. Add the 5 'old' guys here that were against the new logo, then it's still 32 to 9. That's a very clear win IMO. A democracy only works if the majority vote is respected.
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June 21, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
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Here's an interesting thought;

How was nico's crescent moon design voted in?

There is currently NO stake weight voting system in place, as he states would be the correct way of voting a new logo in... so how was it decided his logo would replace the original gold moon logo?

Eagerly awaiting a straight answer.
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June 21, 2017, 10:16:18 PM
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I wasn't obligated to do so or was I? Do you know why "I" donated? To reveal your level of compassion, do you care to know why I donated? 

I did not make this site for money, we did not stipulate a fee. Then there were some donations, including yours. You did not have to pay, it's your voluntary choice. You got better what I did, you decided to support me, sending MOON. I appreciate it.
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June 21, 2017, 10:37:41 PM
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Now that the HTML5COIN problem seems to be solved soon I hope both of them, HTML5 and MOON will gain volume again on Bleutrade.

Cross fingers!!

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June 21, 2017, 10:55:05 PM
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I wasn't obligated to do so or was I? Do you know why "I" donated? To reveal your level of compassion, do you care to know why I donated? 

I did not make this site for money, we did not stipulate a fee. Then there were some donations, including yours. You did not have to pay, it's your voluntary choice. You got better what I did, you decided to support me, sending MOON. I appreciate it.
Where's your portfolio Nico?
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June 22, 2017, 12:01:01 AM
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I wasn't obligated to do so or was I? Do you know why "I" donated? To reveal your level of compassion, do you care to know why I donated?  

I did not make this site for money, we did not stipulate a fee. Then there were some donations, including yours. You did not have to pay, it's your voluntary choice. You got better what I did, you decided to support me, sending MOON. I appreciate it.

I didn't receive any notoriety as you did, but I'm not looking for handouts nor am I asking to receive any, my point in posting all of this is that Mooncoin along with all of cryptocurrency is bigger than "YOU" & "ME", it's bigger than all of "US". Instead of finding a way to complain, I seek solutions so that we may move forward, and I ask you Nico, and the rest of you that had something to say afterwards after previous notification, to please be "Proactive" in resolutions and not "Reactive" as it does nothing, but cause chaos. We are still growing as a decentralized community. Prove yourself with your activity among the community that makes Mooncoin, I'm active on all social networks that we have. I encourage you all to do the same, especially those of you who've been here before we took off, Barry is quite active with us on the discord because we don't have to wait for post to pop up. Evolution has never been easy for some people, but this isn't the time to be self-centered. @Mooncoin_Foundation, I encourage you to "PLEASE" joins us on the discord and other networks where you and other long term supporters may not be. As the community grows you'll never know who might be willing to step up to the plate for Mooncoin as they need your guidance. We have a scheduled conference phone call with an Investment Firm next Friday @ 1:00 p.m. and so far I have only confirmed 2 members, which are myself and 1 other, please contact me to let me know if you're interested or not in attending. I'm no longer going to comment on the matter, I hope we can continue forward together building this very "Unique" Mooncoin community.

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June 22, 2017, 12:12:41 AM
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For anyone worried about joining the above discord:

1. I will not just 'ban' or 'kick' you, and neither will the other admins.

2. The chat history of #moon_polls is fully open and available for anyone to read (albeit with some deleted messages likely). You can see what happened and how things progressed to the point where I needed to remove both vegasmoon (vegasguy for those that don't know him) and nico.

These two are free to come back in, I haven't even banned them, merely kicked them.

3. We're not some authoritarian brigade wanting to assume control over mooncoin. We want to use our combined expertise, creativity and motivation to help make mooncoin an amazing digital currency and altruistic innovation. If anyone wanted me or the admins to step down at any point I would do so via a poll and relinquish control to the next best person. Democracy.

I personally want to work on the history of mooncoin, help educate people on it's positive features, and remain out of this discussion over the logo from this point as there are too many people involved.
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June 22, 2017, 12:21:36 AM
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In my opinion, rather yes, 1 vote per 1 person, no matter how many MOON he owns (on the other hand, if it's an extremely low amount, a person really might not care too much about whether his decision affects MOON or not, it depends on the general responsibility of a person though, however an user with a lot of MOON anyway will be more careful in his decisions),
also an important question is how can we be sure that there are no fake accounts?
At least here I know old members, I know their accounts are not fake and they almost ALL (who posted) didn't support a new logo proposal for MOON.
It was a good initiative to organize the contest, and now we have a winning logo proposal, but may be it should be improved?
People will agree with a variant which is really great, if they don't support it now, something is wrong.

Of course, democracy is great, but in my opinion there should be also some respect from newcomers to people who had been supporting MOON for years,
and at least newcomers should take into account their opinion, these people saw things and never will recommend or support something bad for Mooncoin.

I agree with you here on the most part. However both nico and vegasmoon barely post. I can't find much of their history apart from a lot of involvement in other coins.

You and I know who really did a lot of the hard work for mooncoin, and I respect the way you are dealing with things, quite wise words. I will happily discuss with yourself, agswinner, coinflow about changes and positive ways to make them happen.

I will not deal with nico and vegasmoon due to their complete disinterest in interacting with the community much in the past (unless they identify old accounts that did play a part in mooncoin).

Is there a way forward from this you see possible? The discord community is very attached to the new logo and the ANN community is very attached to nico's logo. Can we theoretically use them both?

Also in regards to nico's childish insults and emoticons about people's work. Grow up. Discuss things like an adult, and don't stoop to ad hom. and strawman arguments.
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June 22, 2017, 03:31:38 AM
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Hey I'm not too involved in your guys' community but I gotta say... it's really fucking stupid to not use the moon as a symbol for your logo.

Why don't you just put the crescent moon onto a coin?
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June 22, 2017, 04:16:04 AM
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Hey I'm not too involved in your guys' community but I gotta say... it's really fucking stupid to not use the moon as a symbol for your logo.

Why don't you just put the crescent moon onto a coin?

I guess the name can be changed soon also
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Vtw here,

I'm new to the forum, not new to crypto currencies. I'm normally not the type to jump in on things, but the last couple days here on this thread has changed that. In fact, I specifically made an account to post this message:

I'm not really into drama and things associated with it, I am far more interested rational discussions and humble attitudes. Some of what I've read here has made me quite sad, and in fact, I'm suprised at some of the maturity levels displayed here. I feel it's neccessary to remind everyone that behind every persona on this forum, there is a real person. I am not accusing any one person, just making a blanket statement. Continuing this though is the mission of this coin,  to be the people's currency. It's ties to the exploration of space bring images of freedom an exploration. Many have said that this coin has reached accross the globe and that it has touched so many lives. The coin also has big agendas to do so much more. I do wish that those who were hurt, or feel the need to assert themselves remember one important thing: that this is not about one person or a small group. It is about helping to make something great. Let's put aside our egos and move forward shall we? Perhaps, instead of pointing out who is wrong, and who is more wrong, we could move forward? Staying stagnant in one argument will undoubtedly stagnate the coin itself. Why not admit that there is wrong in several places , and work on a solution? Not a solution that points out the wrong in one party, but that benifits the community as a whole. Those working here will affect many lives down the road, and keeping that in mind should be the goal of everyone involved. So please, let's put this debate behind us, and act like the people we are supposed to be. After all, these words reach an entire globe, and a logo is holding back an amazing thing here. I believe in this coin, and I believe in it's amazing ability to join together so many.

-Vtw
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June 22, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
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The last pages just shows that we are a big community, with a lot of ideas, and that this is the only way to grow and become more unite.

Go MOON!!
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