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June 20, 2017, 12:00:15 PM
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Even though I agree with Mooncoin_Foundation that we should stop bashing each other and not divide the community. I simply cannot sit back and watch Nico accusing other people of lying while there is actual proof of him being a liar and a fraud. I will drop the facts here and then hold off this discussion. Just think everyone deserves to know the truth.


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They accused me of dishonest voting, to which I had not the slightest relation.
Well, here's proof you tried to manipulate your own image into first place. Lets see how many of these look legit...
Rather, your designer screwed up his votes, if he so asked about the payment. I do not need payment, I'm only interested in the development of MOON!
There definitely was some dishonest voting, look at the votes for Nico's logo:


And then the votes for Larrimar's logo:


I actually went over the users and checked if any of them had any messages in the discord. It turns out that Nico's voters, who already have suspicious names, didn't post a single message except for:
Nico
Littlestan
Evangelo
Tdinan

Now, Evangelo coined the idea for this contest. So it wouldn't make any sense if he manipulated it. The same goes for Littlestan, he has absolutely no interest in botting for Nico's logo to win. Then there's Tdinan, he is a good designer himself and if he would have botted, why not make his own design to bot for that. The only one making sense to be botting, is Nico.

Now, regarding Larrimar's votes. There were 2 voters that registered over the weekend and just had 1/couple of messages. The rest of his votes came from people who had been part of the Discord community for a longer time and many of those people are trusted members of the community.

So let's get the facts straight. Nico's logo received 4 actual votes. Larrimar's logo received 30/32 actual votes. That's not a small difference. There was overwhelmingly more support for Larrimar's logo. This will always be a matter of taste but there's just much more people that like the new logo.
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June 20, 2017, 12:18:32 PM
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Now, I have read some talking about how the Moon logo should be linked to a moon theme. This seems to be the main argument against Larrimar's logo. I agree that it's great if a logo actually represents the name/concept of the business. However, this is hard to get right and often it's better to just have a unique yet recognizable logo.

Take a look at this chart, it contains logo's from some of the biggest companies in the world: .

This gives some good examples of how multinationals pick their logo's. One of the best, in my opinion, is Shell's. Simple, yet elegant and it is an actual shell. Other actual portrayals of the product at hand are Firefox, Taco Bell, Puma and Fanta (more or less).

However; the vast majority of the logo's does NOT represent the company name. Yet we all know most of these logos. It's because they're simple, yet have subtle details making them very recognizable and memorable.

Personally, I think having just a blue crescent is just too simple. Larrimar's logo, on the other hand, is simple yet has some subtle touches to stand out from other logo's. I think we made a good call going for Larrimar's logo.
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June 20, 2017, 12:22:07 PM
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Even though I agree with Mooncoin_Foundation that we should stop bashing each other and not divide the community. I simply cannot sit back and watch Nico accusing other people of lying while there is actual proof of him being a liar and a fraud. I will drop the facts here and then hold off this discussion. Just think everyone deserves to know the truth.

OK, I'm tired of making excuses, especially in front of strange people. I do not need to screw anything, I'm already fine, better than many. Is my logo good? Definitely good! Best! Suppose I had the self-interest in voting, how much did you promise there for the logo, 250,000? That's funny. You can not even imagine how ridiculous this is for me. What do I care who and how I voted, besides not in the official community? Your community is unofficial! In the official you are now writing! You are in vain to assume the role of leader. Brrr ...
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June 20, 2017, 12:27:20 PM
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Now, I have read some talking about how the Moon logo should be linked to a moon theme. This seems to be the main argument against Larrimar's logo. I agree that it's great if a logo actually represents the name/concept of the business. However, this is hard to get right and often it's better to just have a unique yet recognizable logo.

Take a look at this chart, it contains logo's from some of the biggest companies in the world: .

This gives some good examples of how multinationals pick their logo's. One of the best, in my opinion, is Shell's. Simple, yet elegant and it is an actual shell. Other actual portrayals of the product at hand are Firefox, Taco Bell, Puma and Fanta (more or less).

However; the vast majority of the logo's does NOT represent the company name. Yet we all know most of these logos. It's because they're simple, yet have subtle details making them very recognizable and memorable.

Personally, I think having just a blue crescent is just too simple. Larrimar's logo, on the other hand, is simple yet has some subtle touches to stand out from other logo's. I think we made a good call going for Larrimar's logo.

The blue crescent is not used in its pure form, it is utilitarian. Do not look at it separately. There is no ingenious design solution. Just this crescent + cryptocurrency = MOON, we will stake out the most recognizable symbol in history!! Do not you understand this? When MOON is known this will be one of the greatest values !! We used it first! And it will remain for us in the crypto currency! One of the most expensive characters in history!
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June 20, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
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Even though I agree with Mooncoin_Foundation that we should stop bashing each other and not divide the community. I simply cannot sit back and watch Nico accusing other people of lying while there is actual proof of him being a liar and a fraud. I will drop the facts here and then hold off this discussion. Just think everyone deserves to know the truth.

OK, I'm tired of making excuses, especially in front of strange people. I do not need to screw anything, I'm already fine, better than many. Is my logo good? Definitely good! Best! Suppose I had the self-interest in voting, how much did you promise there for the logo, 250,000? That's funny. You can not even imagine how ridiculous this is for me. What do I care who and how I voted, besides not in the official community? Your community is unofficial! In the official you are now writing! You are in vain to assume the role of leader. Brrr ...
Nobody is talking about how you're doing. Nor is anyone interested in your opinion on your own logo. One always thinks his own design is the best.

This isn't about the reward money. You wanted to preserve your logo as the official Mooncoin logo and that is why I suspect you of bot-voting, not to get the 250k reward.

The contest was officially sanctioned by the marketing director of Mooncoin, Evangelo. And approval was given for letting the contest and subsequent voting take place in the discord server. The place where you voted as well. Besides, as far as I know, Stan has posted about the contest and sent out invitation links, in this topic.

I do not pretend to be the leader of Mooncoin in any way. I do not even pretend to be the leader of the discord server. I'm merely an admin there, trying to retain order and thinking along on ways to improve Mooncoin and it's application.

Nico, it would be in Mooncoin's best interest if you stop with falsely accusing people, twisting stories and ignoring your director of marketing. We're all in this together. It doesn't matter if you're here to make money or to get an actual product of the ground; the fact of the matter is that we all want Mooncoin to rise. The way you are behaving at the moment, might harm the coin and the community.
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June 20, 2017, 12:39:09 PM
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I simply cannot sit back and watch Nico accusing other people of lying while there is actual proof of him being a liar and a fraud.

You have no evidence of my participation, sit and do not disgrace yourself.
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June 20, 2017, 12:43:34 PM
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Nico, it would be in Mooncoin's best interest if you stop with falsely accusing people, twisting stories and ignoring your director of marketing. We're all in this together. It doesn't matter if you're here to make money or to get an actual product of the ground; the fact of the matter is that we all want Mooncoin to rise. The way you are behaving at the moment, might harm the coin and the community.

I have responded enough to everything. And this is my business how to behave with people. Without your advice I will manage. " You wanted to preserve your logo as the official Mooncoin logo" - he is already an official logo.
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June 20, 2017, 12:46:30 PM
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Now, I have read some talking about how the Moon logo should be linked to a moon theme. This seems to be the main argument against Larrimar's logo. I agree that it's great if a logo actually represents the name/concept of the business. However, this is hard to get right and often it's better to just have a unique yet recognizable logo.

Take a look at this chart, it contains logo's from some of the biggest companies in the world: .

This gives some good examples of how multinationals pick their logo's. One of the best, in my opinion, is Shell's. Simple, yet elegant and it is an actual shell. Other actual portrayals of the product at hand are Firefox, Taco Bell, Puma and Fanta (more or less).

However; the vast majority of the logo's does NOT represent the company name. Yet we all know most of these logos. It's because they're simple, yet have subtle details making them very recognizable and memorable.

Personally, I think having just a blue crescent is just too simple. Larrimar's logo, on the other hand, is simple yet has some subtle touches to stand out from other logo's. I think we made a good call going for Larrimar's logo.

The blue crescent is not used in its pure form, it is utilitarian. Do not look at it separately. There is no ingenious design solution. Just this crescent + cryptocurrency = MOON, we will stake out the most recognizable symbol in history!! Do not you understand this? When MOON is known this will be one of the greatest values !! We used it first! And it will remain for us in the crypto currency! One of the most expensive characters in history!
In my honest opinion, the blue crescent is way too simple to be recognizable. It's just looks like someone slapped on a simple emoji and colored it blue.

Secondly, I was trying to show you that you do not need to have an actual image of the product to form a successful brand with a recognizable logo. Just look at all these logo's in the chart.

I simply cannot sit back and watch Nico accusing other people of lying while there is actual proof of him being a liar and a fraud.

You have no evidence of my participation, sit and do not disgrace yourself.
We do. We've already shown you plenty. If you want your IP address to be publically listed, I can do that as well. But again, I don't want this to escalate, I want this to cool down.

Please stop trying to kill Mooncoin and the community from the inside out. We all want this to succeed. Please set your ego aside, it was just a simple crescent. Please learn to live with the fact that a VAST majority of the users liked the other design more.
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June 20, 2017, 12:46:57 PM
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 Can  i see both logos here?

                                                                               
                
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June 20, 2017, 12:49:28 PM
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We do. We've already shown you plenty. If you want your IP address to be publically listed

Come on! I'm waiting! Show me the IP voted!
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June 20, 2017, 01:00:16 PM
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Can  i see both logos here?
Of course!

Nico's


Larrimar's
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June 20, 2017, 01:03:23 PM
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Meanwhile MOON because of all sorts of assholes flies to hell.
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June 20, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
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I like the new logo pretty much. Much better than before  Smiley

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June 20, 2017, 01:08:34 PM
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to clear the room, just snapped that http://i.imgur.com/9zAUTzW.jpg


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June 20, 2017, 01:13:01 PM
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Can  i see both logos here?
Of course!

Nico's


Larrimar's


Used my logo without my participation
It was Evangelo who entered your logo for you.

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June 20, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
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Can  i see both logos here?
Of course!

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Used my logo without my participation
It was Evangelo who entered your logo for you.



Another logo has 5 variants of the outline, but I have 1 unsuccessful screenshot. Not good.
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June 20, 2017, 01:25:52 PM
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The old big moon is my friend . Sorry.
from  2013 / 2014

                                                                               
                
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June 20, 2017, 01:30:40 PM
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The old big moon is my friedlich. Sorry.
Form 2013 / 2014
Ha, I understand the nostalgia!

Anyways, everyone, let's keep the argument at bay. There's no use to having an endless discussion about past events. I have posted the old and new logo above and I shall post them again at the end of this post.

Feel free to chip in and give your personal opinion on the logo's and list your preference. But please keep it nice Smiley

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Now I wait for 2 Sat. :-)

                                                                               
                
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June 20, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
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Okay, guys! You have fun here, but the work does not wait.
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