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[sundownz]

Hope to see ZPOOL fully restored / bug-free again soon. I miss it mining on other pools for only 2 days, haha.

Still hanging out on Hash Refinery -- how goes the process of re-stabilizing the pool to handle the excess traffic ?

I will be leaving town for ~3 weeks soon so I won't be able to change pools for a while if I don't swap back before that (I'll just have people capable of re-booting the machines... but nothing technical).

[JaredKaragen]

"0.0025 are paid several evenings each week."

I bet lots of people will love this.   Hopefully it doesn't stack too much TX fees on you because it looks like you loose about half of your 2% average pool fee....

As for profitability concerns;  guys:

This recent nicehash instance caused a big ripple in profitability.    I have noticed it tapering off again myself;  but;  it is still consistent.

Most of the people comparing their earnings to nicehash earnings need to realize that they charged a premium for the rental, which could trickle down easier to you than the luck factor of finding blocks etc.


FWIW;  my profitability is still on par with what I have been getting in the past few months.   No major deviations.

[earlmo]

I'm using MultiPoolMiner for several Zpool algos and the daily average for me is around 0.00029. About 2 weeks ago was fine but since then it dropped significantly (at around the NiceHash hack). I started writing down the Total Unpaid balance into a spreadsheet every day and by calculating the deltas for the timeframes I'm getting only 0.0001 BTC daily which is way less than expected for an overclocked GTX 1060.

crackfoo could you give an explanation for this massive difference?

hey there

You're tracking the unpaid balance (in bitcoin?), which is what I do.  With the massive spike in BTC a week or two ago, your earnings in BTC should decrease, yet equivalent earnings in fiat should remain the same or be higher.  I don't know about the 1060, but my O/C'd 960 does about that now too.  It is what it is.

.earl

[dirtyred]

I'm using MultiPoolMiner for several Zpool algos and the daily average for me is around 0.00029. About 2 weeks ago was fine but since then it dropped significantly (at around the NiceHash hack). I started writing down the Total Unpaid balance into a spreadsheet every day and by calculating the deltas for the timeframes I'm getting only 0.0001 BTC daily which is way less than expected for an overclocked GTX 1060.

crackfoo could you give an explanation for this massive difference?

hey there

You're tracking the unpaid balance (in bitcoin?), which is what I do.  With the massive spike in BTC a week or two ago, your earnings in BTC should decrease, yet equivalent earnings in fiat should remain the same or be higher.  I don't know about the 1060, but my O/C'd 960 does about that now too.  It is what it is.

.earl

Yes, I'm tracking the unpaid BTC and once in a while I write the time and balance into a spreadsheet calculating the elapsed time and balance delta. From that I calculate the 24 hours earning. MultiPoolMiner is getting every algo's earnings from Zpool's API and calculates my earnings based on a previous benchmark speeds (which get updated every minute so they become very accurate mining speed measurements) and also makes an average of earnings reported by Zpool as well. So it becomes pretty accurate after a few days. Usually it's around 0.00028 ±19% (0.00023-0.00033) BTC per day and that is what I was getting about weeks ago but since then my earnings went down to about 1/3 which is not profitable at all anymore.

So my question is why is this huge earnings difference from 2 weeks ago. Is there some bug in the profitability calucation on Zpool's side or on the exchange?

[MaxiMan]

Finally, ended using Nemosminer... and  looks to work good.
However, it uses different versions of ccminer depending of algo to mine, like alexis and klaust, the one wich uses for Lyra2v2 (Alexis) cause a huge fps drop as i wrote this... is that better than last version of ccminer 2.2.3? For me i see the same MHs (Lyra2v2 35 on GTX 980Ti)

I watch Whattomine page but there is some coins lacking there and zpool too

As For Neoscript: No Vivo coin, Trezarcoin not present on Zpool
What happened to them?

[JaredKaragen]

I'm using MultiPoolMiner for several Zpool algos and the daily average for me is around 0.00029. About 2 weeks ago was fine but since then it dropped significantly (at around the NiceHash hack). I started writing down the Total Unpaid balance into a spreadsheet every day and by calculating the deltas for the timeframes I'm getting only 0.0001 BTC daily which is way less than expected for an overclocked GTX 1060.

crackfoo could you give an explanation for this massive difference?

hey there

You're tracking the unpaid balance (in bitcoin?), which is what I do.  With the massive spike in BTC a week or two ago, your earnings in BTC should decrease, yet equivalent earnings in fiat should remain the same or be higher.  I don't know about the 1060, but my O/C'd 960 does about that now too.  It is what it is.

.earl

Yes, I'm tracking the unpaid BTC and once in a while I write the time and balance into a spreadsheet calculating the elapsed time and balance delta. From that I calculate the 24 hours earning. MultiPoolMiner is getting every algo's earnings from Zpool's API and calculates my earnings based on a previous benchmark speeds (which get updated every minute so they become very accurate mining speed measurements) and also makes an average of earnings reported by Zpool as well. So it becomes pretty accurate after a few days. Usually it's around 0.00028 ±19% (0.00023-0.00033) BTC per day and that is what I was getting about weeks ago but since then my earnings went down to about 1/3 which is not profitable at all anymore.

So my question is why is this huge earnings difference from 2 weeks ago. Is there some bug in the profitability calucation on Zpool's side or on the exchange?

Two weeks ago BTC was ~10k USD cheaper; so when you compare your numbers, you must factor in BTC sale price at that time, or rather before that time....

It makes sense that earnings are .5x of what they were if the price is 2x now.

It's a sliding scale.

[pikachuy]

So, has all the upgrades/server issues/dropouts/coins in and out/and etc been resolved yet? Would love to come back to zpool but waiting till it's back on it's stable feet first, since the nicehash recruits overloading zpool.

[H4gb4rd]

The setting of a lower difficulty (d=xxx) on sha256 algo does not work anymore - why?

[coinsplease]

What is wrong with this calculation?

zpool payout at 0.0025 ($40)

Average bitcoin transfer cost 0.00125 ($20)  https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html#3m


= 50% lost in transfer??

I have never transfered any bitcoin so I realize I must be missing something.

[dirtyred]

I'm using MultiPoolMiner for several Zpool algos and the daily average for me is around 0.00029. About 2 weeks ago was fine but since then it dropped significantly (at around the NiceHash hack). I started writing down the Total Unpaid balance into a spreadsheet every day and by calculating the deltas for the timeframes I'm getting only 0.0001 BTC daily which is way less than expected for an overclocked GTX 1060.

crackfoo could you give an explanation for this massive difference?

hey there

You're tracking the unpaid balance (in bitcoin?), which is what I do.  With the massive spike in BTC a week or two ago, your earnings in BTC should decrease, yet equivalent earnings in fiat should remain the same or be higher.  I don't know about the 1060, but my O/C'd 960 does about that now too.  It is what it is.

.earl

Yes, I'm tracking the unpaid BTC and once in a while I write the time and balance into a spreadsheet calculating the elapsed time and balance delta. From that I calculate the 24 hours earning. MultiPoolMiner is getting every algo's earnings from Zpool's API and calculates my earnings based on a previous benchmark speeds (which get updated every minute so they become very accurate mining speed measurements) and also makes an average of earnings reported by Zpool as well. So it becomes pretty accurate after a few days. Usually it's around 0.00028 ±19% (0.00023-0.00033) BTC per day and that is what I was getting about weeks ago but since then my earnings went down to about 1/3 which is not profitable at all anymore.

So my question is why is this huge earnings difference from 2 weeks ago. Is there some bug in the profitability calucation on Zpool's side or on the exchange?

Two weeks ago BTC was ~10k USD cheaper; so when you compare your numbers, you must factor in BTC sale price at that time, or rather before that time....

It makes sense that earnings are .5x of what they were if the price is 2x now.

It's a sliding scale.

I get that but the pool is reporting bad data:

Code:

"neoscrypt":{"name":"neoscrypt","port":4233,"coins":5,"fees":2,"hashrate":8260022991,"workers":4176,"estimate_current":"0.00027344","estimate_last24h":"0.00027605","actual_last24h":"0.22017","hashrate_last24h":6664788894.7634}

So we know the earnings in BTC per GH / MH / KH (depending on algo) from which is easy to calculate the estimated earnings for my speed. However my earnings are way less. MultiPoolMiner also logs past estimates evey minute and makes an average so over a long period of time so it's pretty accurate even considering fluctuations in profitability. MPM also mines the most profitable algos and almost always there's a few around 0.00025

[legendary13]

[2017-12-15 14:48:15] Stratum connection interrupted
[2017-12-15 14:48:17] Stratum connect failed: Failed to connect to neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca port 4233: Connection refused
[2017-12-15 14:48:17] ...retry after 10 seconds

[djmuk2]

Re: profitability
I am looking at Scrypt only - my concern isn't that I was earning X last week and I am earning Y this week, but the actual last 24h earnings are barely 1/2 of the current estimate - I know there can be variation but it is usually about right, Also the individual coins are all showing between 2 and 3 mBTC/GH/Day

With 500Mhs I should be getting about 0.08 LTC (whattomine and manual calcs), which is currently at 0.016 BTC (current @ Bittrex) so this should come come out around 0.00128 BTC/24h.

Over the last 26 hours I have made 0.00055 BTC which is less than 1/2 what I could get by mining LTC straight. 

I don't know what the issue is but there seems to be one. it MAY be that the pool keeps dropping large amounts of hash onto LTC, but not enough to get a block (last LTC block was 30h), so it would seem sensible to drop LTC from the coin list as we don't have enough hash to mine it effectively.

[crackfoo]

Re: profitability
I am looking at Scrypt only - my concern isn't that I was earning X last week and I am earning Y this week, but the actual last 24h earnings are barely 1/2 of the current estimate - I know there can be variation but it is usually about right, Also the individual coins are all showing between 2 and 3 mBTC/GH/Day

With 500Mhs I should be getting about 0.08 LTC (whattomine and manual calcs), which is currently at 0.016 BTC (current @ Bittrex) so this should come come out around 0.00128 BTC/24h.

Over the last 26 hours I have made 0.00055 BTC which is less than 1/2 what I could get by mining LTC straight. 

I don't know what the issue is but there seems to be one. it MAY be that the pool keeps dropping large amounts of hash onto LTC, but not enough to get a block (last LTC block was 30h), so it would seem sensible to drop LTC from the coin list as we don't have enough hash to mine it effectively.

You're probaly right on LTC dragging down the profitability. It's doubled in diff since BCC went POS and now needs another 1Th pool speed to make it consistent.

I'll drop it for a few days and see how it does.

[dirtyred]

You're probaly right on LTC dragging down the profitability. It's doubled in diff since BCC went POS and now needs another 1Th pool speed to make it consistent.

I'll drop it for a few days and see how it does.

So that is the explanation why even mining the most profitable algos with MultiPoolMiner I get half or 1/3 the expected income over 24 hours?

I'm no expert but wouldn't make sense to adjust profitability by taking into account the time needed to find a block or simply multiply the profitability with poolhash/networkhash ratio?

[crackfoo]

You're probaly right on LTC dragging down the profitability. It's doubled in diff since BCC went POS and now needs another 1Th pool speed to make it consistent.

I'll drop it for a few days and see how it does.

So that is the explanation why even mining the most profitable algos with MultiPoolMiner I get half or 1/3 the expected income over 24 hours?

I'm no expert but wouldn't make sense to adjust profitability by taking into account the time needed to find a block or simply multiply the profitability with poolhash/networkhash ratio?

I discovered several rejected LTC blocks, so we should have had better profitability. Unsure why they were rejected but I've updated LTC to the latest code and I'm going to try it for today. If I see another reject I'll have to take it off and dig further.

[geekyguy937]

No - in the passwordfield where you have put the c=BTC value, ZPool uses the Password field to pass this information so as far as the miner software it IS the password!

Do you know if this would be typed under "Command line parameters (optional)" on awesomeminer?

Thanks a lot

as per the web site
http://zpool.ca/site/diff

you add a parameter d=xxx to your password, so it will (probably) look like
c=BTC,d=512

Does anyone know how to set a specific difficulty for neoscrypt through Awesomeminer?  It keeps pushing my difficulty to 2186 and then my estimated hash rate plummets, then it drops down to 256 and starts the cycle of working back up over again.  If anyone has a suggested difficulty recommendation, I'm getting about 7.2-7.3 MH/s.  Thanks!

I have a d= set in my password field for sha256, but it keeps defaulting the pool diff to 262400, seems to be ignoring the d= i have set, I'm using some gridseed orbs, whcih I know are old and slow, but I would still like to try and mine with them for kicks.  im using d=1024 and tried d=2056, but with the 262400 popping up, seems I will never get a share.
any ideas?

p.s. I did have it working for a few days with d=1024, but then it stopped and I noticed the 262400 thing.

[H4gb4rd]

No - in the passwordfield where you have put the c=BTC value, ZPool uses the Password field to pass this information so as far as the miner software it IS the password!

Do you know if this would be typed under "Command line parameters (optional)" on awesomeminer?

Thanks a lot

as per the web site
http://zpool.ca/site/diff

you add a parameter d=xxx to your password, so it will (probably) look like
c=BTC,d=512

Does anyone know how to set a specific difficulty for neoscrypt through Awesomeminer?  It keeps pushing my difficulty to 2186 and then my estimated hash rate plummets, then it drops down to 256 and starts the cycle of working back up over again.  If anyone has a suggested difficulty recommendation, I'm getting about 7.2-7.3 MH/s.  Thanks!

I have a d= set in my password field for sha256, but it keeps defaulting the pool diff to 262400, seems to be ignoring the d= i have set, I'm using some gridseed orbs, whcih I know are old and slow, but I would still like to try and mine with them for kicks.  im using d=1024 and tried d=2056, but with the 262400 popping up, seems I will never get a share.
any ideas?

p.s. I did have it working for a few days with d=1024, but then it stopped and I noticed the 262400 thing.

The setting of a lower difficulty (d=xxx) on sha256 algo does not work anymore - why?

[ShalomBit]

Please can someone tell me the minimum payout on zpool? I mean in BTC. Your input will be appreciated.

[dirtyred]

Please can someone tell me the minimum payout on zpool? I mean in BTC. Your input will be appreciated.

Answered just a few posts ago. It's also on the first page.

Payouts are made automatically every 2 hours for all balances above 0.01 and balances more than 0.002 are paid several evenings each week.

[ShalomBit]

Much appreciated lads