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July 25, 2013, 03:52:11 AM |
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Zefir do we get any indication that the chips have been sent from batch one for those of us in that batch? For example I had requested to have mine sent to burnin but no idea if you did yet.. How will you handle letting people know?
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July 25, 2013, 07:03:55 AM |
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Long night passed - I can't count QFN48 chips any more ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FViWC8it.jpg&t=665&c=Ft90NhXsBSCdTg)
Heading to Germany now to send packages from there. Thank you very much for your effort!
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July 25, 2013, 08:13:59 AM |
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Oh God...Did you ship the chip out? Because I don't want to receive my all chips together. I want to receive it asap. But I Put the address "Ship all orders at once to one address". Because I only want to ship it to one address. I miss your mean.. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Can I change the shipping option now and change it to ship separate. Or it's too late?
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July 25, 2013, 08:17:00 AM |
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Zefir can you or someone who have new chips in hand read this number on chip
Hi, sent all chips and didn't keep a single one to check. Those receiving them will maybe soon be able to respond. Zefir do we get any indication that the chips have been sent from batch one for those of us in that batch? For example I had requested to have mine sent to burnin but no idea if you did yet.. How will you handle letting people know?
I sent out all chips, so everyone who had a valid shipping address locked will receive them soon. Those (9 users from the 1st batch) without were skipped and will get their chips after providing the data with the subsequent batches. Due to the packaging format I could not provide a strict fcfs-based distribution, but had to consider what is best for smooth production. As one consequence, I sent the surplus chips to manufacturers who have chips coming in the subsequent batches, so they can build up reserves to serve orders as fast as possible. Do we get a tracking number when chips are sent?
Yes, I will contact all recipients and provide their individual tracking number.
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July 25, 2013, 08:23:58 AM |
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Oh God...Did you ship the chip out? Because I don't want to receive my all chips together. I want to receive it asap. But I Put the address "Ship all orders at once to one address". Because I only want to ship it to one address. I miss your mean.. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Can I change the shipping option now and change it to ship separate. Or it's too late? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I shipped every single chip I had, since they would be wasted if kept by me (since I can't do much with them). So yes, it is basically too late, and since you checked to send your orders in one package, I did not ship to you this time. I feel sorry for you and will contact you via PM to find a solution.
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July 25, 2013, 08:46:33 AM |
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Hey Zefir,
any idea when the next batches will arrive?
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July 25, 2013, 08:56:24 AM |
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Hey Zefir,
any idea when the next batches will arrive?
If he had more or new information, I'm sure he would let us know immediately.
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July 25, 2013, 09:02:23 AM |
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Yes, I'm sorry, but I am sooooo excited. I'm feeling like a little child before christmas ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks again Zefir for your great professional work.
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July 25, 2013, 09:11:47 AM |
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Yes, I'm sorry, but I am sooooo excited. I'm feeling like a little child before christmas ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks again Zefir for your great professional work. Know how you feel ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) But I'm sure Zefir is doing his job the right way. Hope the next batches will ship in 1 package.
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July 25, 2013, 09:23:34 AM |
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May I ask how many chips from the 1st batch were unclaimed and how were they distributed between manufacturers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 25, 2013, 01:58:23 PM |
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What does one chip yield in terms of bitcoins in one day?
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July 25, 2013, 02:17:35 PM |
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What does one chip yield in terms of bitcoins in one day?
Please don't hijack this thread. There are several bitcoin calculator in the internet. You only have to use Google. For reference use: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
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July 25, 2013, 07:03:43 PM |
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May I ask how many chips from the 1st batch were unclaimed and how were they distributed between manufacturers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, you may ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 11 orders from 9 users were missing with a total of 420 chips. Those (plus others out of my reserves) were added to marto74, burnin, and strombom's delivery to fill up the chip-trays or complete sealed packages. With that, those chip manufacturers can build up some reserves to manage issues (DOA chips, lost chips, etc.) at their side, which I assumed to be the best possible use. From the surplus chips, none were sent to private addresses, while I added my own chips to some split orders for people having some more chips in the 2nd batch to reduce shipping costs and handling efforts. Also I sent 90 chips from my own to someone with later orders promising to build USB miners and distribute them to non-techies and so introduce them to Bitcoin. Does this answer your question, or you had something specific in mind?
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July 25, 2013, 07:08:51 PM |
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May I ask how many chips from the 1st batch were unclaimed and how were they distributed between manufacturers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, you may ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 11 orders from 9 users were missing with a total of 420 chips. Those (plus others out of my reserves) were added to marto74, burnin, and strombom's delivery to fill up the chip-trays or complete sealed packages. With that, those chip manufacturers can build up some reserves to manage issues (DOA chips, lost chips, etc.) at their side, which I assumed to be the best possible use. From the surplus chips, none were sent to private addresses, while I added my own chips to some split orders for people having some more chips in the 2nd batch to reduce shipping costs and handling efforts. Also I sent 90 chips from my own to someone with later orders promising to build USB miners and distribute them to non-techies and so introduce them to Bitcoin. Does this answer your question, or you had something specific in mind? You are a star Zefir! Thank you very much. I filled the contact website form asking if my chips were sent. The answer is here. But i have asked for shipping expenses also. I am aware that we shall take care of them but i still did not get a reply. Please comment how shall we send you some coins to cover the shipping?
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July 25, 2013, 07:37:40 PM |
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You are a star Zefir! Thank you very much. I filled the contact website form asking if my chips were sent. The answer is here. But i have asked for shipping expenses also. I am aware that we shall take care of them but i still did not get a reply. Please comment how shall we send you some coins to cover the shipping?
Relevant notes: Shipping Confirmationsthere will be no additional confirmation for orders from my side. If you have a valid receipt with an epoch of less than 1374609600 (2013-07-23T20:00Z) your order shipped. Shipping and Handling PaymentsI need to wait at least one week to get the invoice from DHL for import payments to know how much I need to charge for S&H. Also I need to get some more experience which shipping method works best. I observed several delays with registered air-mail over SwissPost, but I did already also with German DHL (like burnin's package shipped national express still not arrived, while an other national package shipped regular already got delivered). Furthermore, German DHL international express is not significantly cheaper than SwissPost urgent via TNT global (at least not enough to compensate traveling costs). I am not in a hurry with collecting S&H costs, since I am confident to have your support when I ask for it. Initially I planned to ask for an exact reimbursement of costs, but now I realize that accounting those costs might turn out to be more expensive than the costs themselves. Therefore, I tend to consider a flat S&H payment as alternative, like I already did with the sample chips. That would e.g. mean everyone pays 0.5BTC and thats it. For those with only 10 chips in order, this would be a relatively high S&H component, therefore I would again allow to take it as donation if requested publicly in this thread. Thoughts?
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July 25, 2013, 07:48:58 PM |
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Thanks for the explanation on the distribution of unclaimed chips.
As for the s&h matter I don't think it's fair that a person with 10 chips and another person with 100 chips pay the same s&h costs... But I also understand that it's somewhat tedious and too complicated to calculate per individual also given that some are shipped to manufacturers in combined packages, others are shipped directly to individuals and so on.
I think it would be better if there are categories, e.g. up to 50 chips, up to 100 chips, up to 200 chips etc.
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July 25, 2013, 08:19:48 PM |
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Thanks for the explanation on the distribution of unclaimed chips.
As for the s&h matter I don't think it's fair that a person with 10 chips and another person with 100 chips pay the same s&h costs... But I also understand that it's somewhat tedious and too complicated to calculate per individual also given that some are shipped to manufacturers in combined packages, others are shipped directly to individuals and so on.
I think it would be better if there are categories, e.g. up to 50 chips, up to 100 chips, up to 200 chips etc.
That would make everything more complicated. Zefir is already spending enough time to make everything work out right. The ones that can´t pay can take it as a donation and post it in public.
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July 25, 2013, 08:32:38 PM |
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Thanks for the explanation on the distribution of unclaimed chips.
As for the s&h matter I don't think it's fair that a person with 10 chips and another person with 100 chips pay the same s&h costs... But I also understand that it's somewhat tedious and too complicated to calculate per individual also given that some are shipped to manufacturers in combined packages, others are shipped directly to individuals and so on.
I think it would be better if there are categories, e.g. up to 50 chips, up to 100 chips, up to 200 chips etc.
That would make everything more complicated. Zefir is already spending enough time to make everything work out right. The ones that can´t pay can take it as a donation and post it in public. +1 Besides shipping up to 50 chips, up to 100 chips, up to 200 chips alone as separate package in terms of shipping cost is same. Actually Zefir is not making anything wrong charging equal amount.
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July 25, 2013, 08:45:21 PM |
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But somebody who only ordered a small amount might be willing to pay for shipping, just not the full amount. So why not charge half the flat-fee for small orders (i.e. two "categories")? However, Zefir should not have to do accounting - I'm confident that your "customers" will just pay the prices you ask for. Just define "small order" and ask people to apply the x% rebate by themselves before paying.
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July 25, 2013, 08:50:14 PM |
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But somebody who only ordered a small amount might be willing to pay for shipping, just not the full amount. So why not charge half the flat-fee for small orders (i.e. two "categories")? However, Zefir should not have to do accounting - I'm confident that your "customers" will just pay the prices you ask for. Just define "small order" and ask people to apply the x% rebate by themselves before paying.
Post office do not care if you send one or 500 chips. They charge same as long as package is < 0.5 kg Anyway let us make it easy for zefir. Let him decide and leave this arguing in the past
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