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October 10, 2017, 04:16:26 PM

52%. Is anyone believing that could pass 60% before November?

It was 87% just a few months ago so.... why not?

I would say it has more run up than down from here.
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October 10, 2017, 04:21:59 PM

52%. Is anyone believing that could pass 60% before November?

Today seems to be a bit stagnant. If we have any further rallies such as yesterday maybe back to 75%.

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October 10, 2017, 04:25:55 PM

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.


I do completely agree. AFAIK noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had strict orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger. It was an extremely complex operative, probably the most complex this country has ever coped with.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.
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October 10, 2017, 04:32:32 PM

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.
Illegal or not, you shouldn't beat your own people for: a) Peacefully protesting. b) Voting.


I do completely agree. Noone was beaten for that (trying to vote or peacefully protesting). Police had orders from Judge to seize ballot boxes, the only people that were beaten were actively hindering (not sure if that is the right english word) the police job. In fact, in most the places they were not able to comply orders because it would have mean a major confrontation and put people (and police units themselves) in higher danger.

I do also recognize this incident have had a very bad impact in international media. It would have been way better to have intervened way sooner and just arrest the promoters of the rebelion without exposing any law-abiding citizens to any innecesary risk.

I think your statement is overzealously defending the police going by the pictures we saw from abroad. Regardless only a total imbecile would expect seizing ballot boxes in such a case to be peaceful. The vote could still have been regarded as illegal if more votes ended up in the ballot boxes. No need to drag women by their hair.

It's not as if this Catalan independence thing hasn't had any history.
Joke reaction by Spanish government.
Joke reactions by the EU.

No wonder people want to go back to nation states where possible.
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October 10, 2017, 04:37:09 PM

I'm waiting for a certain Jimbo from Toronto to pump it. Lips sealed

Sorry. I only buy dips.  Cheesy
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October 10, 2017, 04:41:18 PM

He would do a little martial arts on you, and you would not be laughing, then ...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Or start riding his bear, that'd definitely make me shit my pants. Cheesy
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October 10, 2017, 04:54:22 PM

Nobody living in EU would speak about Europe like that - do you live in Europe?

Yes. Why should I bother otherwise. I also live on Earth.

Europe without free Europeans is not an Europe!

In general. Catatonians without their own army will never independent.  They need every 20 years old male to be able to handle weapons and own army. Spain politicians will never let lose 20% of their country with the fight. And Europe politicians will just follow nonhuman laws.

Europe is an olygarchy, and should be considered as such. Catalonians will be beaten to the pulp if they continue this way, the king does not allow it.
I think the ugly side of EU is just giving more anger and fuel to independent movements, which unfortunately tend to direct their anger to the wrong target. And I see from bitserve that the propaganda machine is already at work denying the beatings, so typical. Because Spanish 18% of unemployment and 50% taxes are not enough, they also enjoy watching their fellow nationals being beaten...
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October 10, 2017, 04:59:25 PM


But there is a trend on a global scale to refuse to give money to a central government for services that don't happen.

Let's just be glad we're not getting the government we're paying for.
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October 10, 2017, 05:03:37 PM

New ATH is incoming now. You all know it Smiley

But dont forget about the legit Altcoins like XMR, they are increadible cheap to buy now.
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October 10, 2017, 05:04:30 PM

Yeehaw , there she blows  Cheesy
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October 10, 2017, 05:06:24 PM

Right now, after an absolutely unprecedented 1 hour delay, Carles Puigdemount is going to start his speech.

And Bitcoin on the way to a new ATH Smiley
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October 10, 2017, 05:08:41 PM

More shitshow! The members of the presidency board of catalonian parliament LEAVE THE PLACE! WTF?!??!

P.S.: They are back now.
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October 10, 2017, 05:12:01 PM

I tuned in to get word about the flash crash. I guess nobody noticed. Carry on.

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October 10, 2017, 05:15:55 PM

I tuned in to get word about the flash crash. I guess nobody noticed. Carry on.

I did notice the drop to 4200 this morning then jump back to about 4800 straight away on CoinDesk.
Thought it was a CoinDesk data thing only?
No idea.  Huh
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October 10, 2017, 05:16:35 PM

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.
Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?
So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.


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October 10, 2017, 05:21:37 PM

About the referendum it is indeed ilegal, as anyone that knows spanish law and constitution do inmediately realize. It was the Judges and not the government who sent the police to seize the ballot boxes.

Such laws are bull shit. Referendum for independence should be every Earthing right. And specially every Europeans right.  Europe dont exist without it. It is simple as that. Countries that dont care of their citizens rights have nothing to do in Europe.
Ok, so I can go and do a "referendum" with a bunch of my friends and decide, for example, that we are not going to pay any taxes anymore?
So if the miners decide to hardfork you follow them? Or do you stick to the consensus rules you choose? Imo Bitcoin shows the flaws of our legacy governance systems. They are are not able to soft fork. Only hard forks possible. Either you are with us or against us. Where it leads to can be found in various history books. Seems learning from past mistakes is impossible.




I don't like Bitcoin forks. I don't like country forks. But I do recognise it is an interesting analogy... and it seems that both result on airdrops if you choose the "right" side of the fork.
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October 10, 2017, 05:22:44 PM

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  Smiley

Go Bitcoin go.
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October 10, 2017, 05:24:41 PM

I tuned in to get word about the flash crash. I guess nobody noticed. Carry on.





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October 10, 2017, 05:25:45 PM

What a pleasant little rise... up a c-note in less than an hour.  Smiley

Go Bitcoin go.
Price is looking pretty good - a lot of funds are coming from people selling alts - looks like the market cap % of BTC/Alts is increasing again
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October 10, 2017, 05:26:28 PM

I'll be incredibly impressed if the guy that won MicGoosens guess the ATH contest wins the second contest!  Even if he doesn't, damn does he have a solid chance at it, the way things are going right now.

Kudos to you BikerLeszlo (sorry if I spelled that wrong)

We'll need to anoint him as King of Bitcoin Shocked

IT would’t be very crazy.... i even hope for the Guy its gonna hit ATH on 10-10 👌👍🏻

If he can do it 3 times, we can all cry conspiracy.



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