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October 05, 2017, 08:16:41 PM

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Even Cristiano Ronaldo is now mining crypto currencies !!!!

Just visit -infected site- and pay attention to your cpu workload.

I clicked on your link and my antivirus said it was infected with JSMiner.

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That will become the next pest on internet, worse than just ordinary household virusses  Grin Grin
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October 05, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

Breaking News:

Even Cristiano Ronaldo is now mining crypto currencies !!!!

Just visit -infected site- and pay attention to your cpu workload.

I clicked on your link and my antivirus said it was infected with JSMiner.

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That will become the next pest on internet, worse than just ordinary household virusses  Grin Grin

I see this javascript mining as a good alternative to ads. can not be worse than these stupid flash banners or autoplaying videos with audio
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October 05, 2017, 09:13:08 PM

I mean really.... Can you at least agree that we are somewhere on the lower end of a fraction of a percentage of world adoption, and just imagine first of all getting to a point of 1% adoption might take some time. 

The important vision is ubiquity of Bitcoin. As for me, I am working toward that vision.

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If there are 7 billion people in the world, then 1% would be 70 million using bitcoin in some kind of way... Are we even close to that? 

Obviously not. It would take about 280 days to make 70 million transactions on today's Bitcoin Core. Over a month on Bitcoin Cash, which is still too long, but nearly an order of magnitude better. Because big blocks.
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October 05, 2017, 09:13:39 PM

I see this javascript mining as a good alternative to ads. can not be worse than these stupid flash banners or autoplaying videos with audio

I don't see it as a good alternative to ads. Malware is malware, plain and simple.

I agree almost nothing can be worse than annoying autoplaying flash videos with audio. It's one of the worst forms of malware.

I've tried to avoid autoplaying videos by not upgrading my flash player so that Firefox doesn't start it automatically and I have to manually allow it to start. This often helps but many ads still autostart.

Another annoyance is videos that re-position themselves on-screen when you mute the sound and scroll them out of sight.

I suppose advertising does serve a purpose in that it lets you know what products to boycott, but at times it gets so infuriating that I want to actively badmouth the products.

Does anyone know of a good ad blocker that targets this annoying malware?
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October 05, 2017, 09:22:25 PM

I see this javascript mining as a good alternative to ads. can not be worse than these stupid flash banners or autoplaying videos with audio

I don't see it as a good alternative to ads. Malware is malware, plain and simple.

I agree almost nothing can be worse than annoying autoplaying flash videos with audio. It's one of the worst forms of malware.

I've tried to avoid autoplaying videos by not upgrading my flash player so that Firefox doesn't start it automatically and I have to manually allow it to start. This often helps but many ads still autostart.

Another annoyance is videos that re-position themselves on-screen when you mute the sound and scroll them out of sight.

I suppose advertising does serve a purpose in that it lets you know what products to boycott, but at times it gets so infuriating that I want to actively badmouth the products.

Does anyone know of a good ad blocker that targets this annoying malware?

Use Chrome as a browser, it's better than Firefox and doesn't even support Flash any more Smiley

You can get the "No Coin" extension that will block CoinHive scripts from running:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/no-coin/gojamcfopckidlocpkbelmpjcgmbgjcl?hl=en
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October 05, 2017, 09:22:45 PM

Does anyone know of a good ad blocker that targets this annoying malware?

give "uBlock Origin" a try
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October 05, 2017, 09:23:17 PM

oh oh do tell how block increases helps on boarding the world? Would you mind doing a simple math on how big your blocks should be for every person in the world to do just one transaction on chain per day? I'll wait

About 25G.
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October 05, 2017, 09:30:52 PM

oh oh do tell how block increases helps on boarding the world? Would you mind doing a simple math on how big your blocks should be for every person in the world to do just one transaction on chain per day? I'll wait

About 25G.

Clearly that's way too big, what's the solution, L2?
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October 05, 2017, 09:36:40 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.
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October 05, 2017, 09:39:53 PM

So if we want to use the Bitcoin blockchain now we have to send two txs at once, one real one and one spam. That right?

No. ivomm is describing a single transaction with one additional output.

I rather prefer the mechanism of making your transaction include an input that was the output of a post-fork transaction.
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October 05, 2017, 09:40:32 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.


Yes, it's a policy, miners could ignore the policy and include the transaction.
But if you are sending coins to your own addresses, and they break policy and include the transaction in a block, there is no harm done.
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October 05, 2017, 09:55:11 PM

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October 05, 2017, 09:59:16 PM

oh oh do tell how block increases helps on boarding the world? Would you mind doing a simple math on how big your blocks should be for every person in the world to do just one transaction on chain per day? I'll wait

About 25G.

Clearly that's way too big,

Today, clearly. At some point where we might actually achieve ubiquity? Probably not.

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L2 is probably part of the solution. But there is no known L2 technology that can achieve this scale unless larger blocks is also part of the solution.
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October 05, 2017, 10:05:28 PM

I suppose advertising does serve a purpose



Bitcoin don't have advertising.
Only a controlled supply.

And it's enough.
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October 05, 2017, 10:12:37 PM

B2X Token trading is coming to bitfinex, soon we will know what the price is Smiley

https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/BT2BTC


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https://www.bitfinex.com/legal/cst
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October 05, 2017, 10:13:31 PM

And be prepared for this friday ... miners have ordered a stucked MEMpool (mud fees).

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October 05, 2017, 10:17:37 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.


Yes, it's a policy, miners could ignore the policy and include the transaction.

No, this is not correct. Transactions to that address are will be considered invalid by 2x nodes & miners; A block containing them would be invalid and not be built upon.
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October 05, 2017, 10:38:46 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.


Yes, it's a policy, miners could ignore the policy and include the transaction.

No, this is not correct. Transactions to that address are will be considered invalid by 2x nodes & miners; A block containing them would be invalid and not be built upon.


My mistake you are right.
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October 05, 2017, 10:41:04 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.

Dude just feckin stop flailing about shilling for this utter crap of an altcoin.
Your one mad discredited dumped dev Garzik has already merged that spammy shit into your altcoin.
https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/commit/a3c41256984bf11d95a560ae89c0fcbadfbe73dc#diff-4f6d60b6976522cec2974a0aea9a5ab3R801 ff
Keep up dunderbluss, you're way behind latest developments on your crapcoin.
Hey also guess what it ficks up lightning (if the channel doesn't enforce your famous facking blacklist).
https://0bin.net/paste/nQwqU76pQ3CW00ZV#TUB68SXcEn-fSIQAWkULnUEL0NaUK/5TzPrQWEFwWyg https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/915945691997929472
You will lose people money, you and your cronies. What people actually in bitcoin call 'being a scammer'. Just focking stop.
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October 05, 2017, 10:44:28 PM

To split your coins
On BTC chain you have some coins in address (A), you send your coins to another address you own (B), and include a further special recipient address 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi  to whom you send a few satoshis. (You have to use send to many option in your wallet, to send them at once).
Any transactions that contain this special address will be ignored by 2X miners.
Once this is successful, you will have your BTC in an address(B) you own.

IIUC, I would not employ this mechanism for my coins. The part that I have underlined seems to require full faith in what the miners will do. You have no a priori method of knowing whether that address will 'be ignored' by any miner.


Yes, it's a policy, miners could ignore the policy and include the transaction.

No, this is not correct. Transactions to that address are will be considered invalid by 2x nodes & miners; A block containing them would be invalid and not be built upon.

Only by miners that agree to implement this, and do not renege. What guarantee do you have that this will be the case? For that matter, what guarantee do you have that someone does not know the private key corresponding to this address?

I'm just trying to point out that there is at least one alternative method that a transaction originator can use to split their coins, which does not suffer these drawbacks.
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