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[STT]

Sounds correct, anyone with an old bitcoin address balance will have that coin and thats alot of unknown people outside China.  Hardly an ideal situation unless PBOC is embracing the free enterprise spirit of capitalism which despite appearances I dont think China really wants capitalism as that is all about free control of money by the people which gives them power outside of government.  Central banking is a communist construct from beginnings of CCCP is one article I read and really it does fit

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[Torque]

Sad to hear about Vegas, I fucking knew they shouldn't have let OJ out.

Very sad indeed. But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

[vroom]

But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

no other country has so many people run amok or accidents with weapons. I don't know another country where 3 year old children kill other 3 year old kids with guns. this is no false flag, this is sad reality. more weapons -> more innocent dead people

[LewisPirenne]

this is a joke ?!?
http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/10/01/bitmain-now-accepts-bitcoin-cash-latest-mining-hardware

“Only BCC payment method is accepted in this batch, please use the exact amount mentioned in your order and complete the payment within one hour. After one hour, the order will expire and your payment may not be detected by the system automatically. If the payment is submitted but the receipt is delayed, we will make your payment “Valid” manually.”

Actually that news is a few days old.  I remember reading them (over the weekend?) and saw that there was no reaction in BCH price to that news.  In fact BCH just keeps going down in the past few days.  Probably due to the EDA exploiting shenanigan.

[Gyrsur]

this is a joke ?!?
http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/10/01/bitmain-now-accepts-bitcoin-cash-latest-mining-hardware

“Only BCC payment method is accepted in this batch, please use the exact amount mentioned in your order and complete the payment within one hour. After one hour, the order will expire and your payment may not be detected by the system automatically. If the payment is submitted but the receipt is delayed, we will make your payment “Valid” manually.”

Actually that news is a few days old.  I remember reading them (over the weekend?) and saw that there was no reaction in BCH price to that news.  In fact BCH just keeps going down in the past few days.  Probably due to the EDA exploiting shenanigan.

https://themerkle.com/bitcoin-cash-network-triggers-another-lower-mining-difficulty-to-keep-the-chain-ahead/

[404Revolution]

Sad to hear about Vegas, I fucking knew they shouldn't have let OJ out.

Very sad indeed. But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

You're paranoid. Such a ridiculous claim. Truly disgraceful honestly.

[btcbeliever]

But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

no other country has so many people run amok or accidents with weapons. I don't know another country where 3 year old children kill other 3 year old kids with guns. this is no false flag, this is sad reality. more weapons -> more innocent dead people

http://stories.avvo.com/crime/8-horrible-crimes-stopped-by-legal-gun-owners.html

even better:  http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html

Making it legally possible for civilians to carry concealed weapons does not make society more violent or result in shootouts at traffic accidents.
The rate of criminal misuse of firearms by the hundreds of thousands of persons licensed to carry concealed firearms in Florida is so low as to be statistically zero. In fact, homicide, assault, rape, and robbery are dramatically lower in areas of the United States where the public is allowed easy access to carrying concealed firearms in public.


Sources: Florida Department of State, Concealed Weapons/ Firearms License Statistical Report and "Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns," by John R. Lott, Olin Fellow in Law and Economics at the University of Chicago Law School and David B. Mustard, graduate student, Department of Economics, Journal of Legal Studies, January 1997.

[vroom]

But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

no other country has so many people run amok or accidents with weapons. I don't know another country where 3 year old children kill other 3 year old kids with guns. this is no false flag, this is sad reality. more weapons -> more innocent dead people

http://stories.avvo.com/crime/8-horrible-crimes-stopped-by-legal-gun-owners.html

even better:  http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html

Making it legally possible for civilians to carry concealed weapons does not make society more violent or result in shootouts at traffic accidents.
The rate of criminal misuse of firearms by the hundreds of thousands of persons licensed to carry concealed firearms in Florida is so low as to be statistically zero. In fact, homicide, assault, rape, and robbery are dramatically lower in areas of the United States where the public is allowed easy access to carrying concealed firearms in public.


Sources: Florida Department of State, Concealed Weapons/ Firearms License Statistical Report and "Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns," by John R. Lott, Olin Fellow in Law and Economics at the University of Chicago Law School and David B. Mustard, graduate student, Department of Economics, Journal of Legal Studies, January 1997.

studies sponsored by NRA?

[Dabs]

I'm not sure this is the thread to talk about firearms and it's usefulness and other crime stopping properties, but since it's being discussed, I will say "Good Guys with Guns stop Bad Guys with anything." And the famous "When Guns Are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Guns."

I dunno about you, but if there's a zombie apocalypse or some riot right outside my house, I'd prefer to have one. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

I'm biased because I'm a soldier. But whatever.

[Torque]

It's not a good place to talk about it. Let's keep this thread focused on Bitcoin.

Speaking of which... price looking pretty good, eh?

[vroom]

I'm not sure this is the thread to talk about firearms and it's usefulness and other crime stopping properties, but since it's being discussed, I will say "Good Guys with Guns stop Bad Guys with anything." And the famous "When Guns Are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Guns."

I dunno about you, but if there's a zombie apocalypse or some riot right outside my house, I'd prefer to have one. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

I'm biased because I'm a soldier. But whatever.

you are right, this seems to be a very emotional issue. yes, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

but still, I'm from europe and I'm glad that my neighbours don't run around with automatic rifles.

[buyandhold]

BCH .095 and still falling.  So is that it, China just going to let it die?  Would be telling if it falls below eth.

http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170928/#27 [05:28:24] · <mircea_popescu> so which hits 0.05 first, ethereum or crash ?

[Meuh6879]

price looking pretty good, eh?

yep, my next selling point is 4490 USD (3800 euros).

[ragnar0k]

But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

no other country has so many people run amok or accidents with weapons. I don't know another country where 3 year old children kill other 3 year old kids with guns. this is no false flag, this is sad reality. more weapons -> more innocent dead people

Ever heard of Switzerland?
US has too many social conflicts. The government likes to keep it that way I think, less unity is better governance. People go crazy in certain environments, nothing to do with weapons

[vroom]

But this has the smell of another false flag. I'm sure more anti-gun rhetoric will be spewing from the far left in short order.

no other country has so many people run amok or accidents with weapons. I don't know another country where 3 year old children kill other 3 year old kids with guns. this is no false flag, this is sad reality. more weapons -> more innocent dead people

Ever heard of Switzerland?
US has too many social conflicts. The government likes to keep it that way I think, less unity is better governance. People go crazy in certain environments, nothing to do with weapons

thanks for enlighten me, switzerland is a really good example.

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still edging upwards at a nice fairly steady rate... currently $4415USD/$5519CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

AltCash still stalled at $424USD/$530CAD (Coinmarketcap).

At this rate we just might see $5k by the end of the week.

Go Bitcoin go.

[Arriemoller]

Here's some thuggish state violence you might enjoy.
https://twitter.com/TheLocalSpain/status/914447014162771970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe_slatest%2F2017%2F10%2F01%2Fhundreds_injured_as_spanish_police_beat_up_referendum_voters_in_catalonia.html

State-sponsored violence against the people:
First in a country far from you. Then in a country near you. Finally in your country.

Oh, it has been in your country for quite som while now, remember the civil war? (no, not personally).
The Spanish police throwing a few people down the stairs when a state tries to secede is pretty calm compared to throwing the country into a civil war when a state wants to secede.

[frmracc]

$4,500 next 

[bitserve]

Here's some thuggish state violence you might enjoy.
https://twitter.com/TheLocalSpain/status/914447014162771970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe_slatest%2F2017%2F10%2F01%2Fhundreds_injured_as_spanish_police_beat_up_referendum_voters_in_catalonia.html

State-sponsored violence against the people:
First in a country far from you. Then in a country near you. Finally in your country.

Oh, it has been in your country for quite som while now, remember the civil war? (no, not personally).
The Spanish police throwing a few people down the stairs when a state tries to secede is pretty calm compared to throwing the country into a civil war when a state wants to secede.

^^ This.

But there is only ONE state in Spain. There are some people that seem to want to "secede".... We are fine with that, as long as they do it outside Spanish territory. Maybe they should move to France and try to do that stunt there... I don't think their police will be as soft with their "secesion" attempts.

[Arriemoller]

Sounds correct, anyone with an old bitcoin address balance will have that coin and thats alot of unknown people outside China.  Hardly an ideal situation unless PBOC is embracing the free enterprise spirit of capitalism which despite appearances I dont think China really wants capitalism as that is all about free control of money by the people which gives them power outside of government.  Central banking is a communist construct from beginnings of CCCP is one article I read and really it does fit

The Swedish central bank was founded in 1668, a bit older than the CCCP I would say.
And its origin was a failed private bank (Stockholms Banco) that the state had to bail out.

"Stockholms Banco collapsed as a result of the issuing of too many notes without the necessary collateral. Palmstruch, who was considered responsible for the bank's losses, was condemned to death, but later received clemency."

Sounds familiar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_Riksbank