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16 Bitcoin Price Predictions from "Industry Experts"

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1.Gavriel Shaw, CMO at Bitcoin.com:

    As a hobbyist trader and self-proclaimed market psychologist, my best guess at the bitcoin price by January is ‘way up’ due to strong market forces and price chart patterns. A break-out appears to be imminent and it will be a very strong bull run. By Jan 1st… BTC at $10,500 and BCH at $1,500.

2.Khaled Khorshid, Co-Founder at Treon ICO:

    In my view, we did not see BTC getting dumped nor have we seen it brake it’s crucial resistance points since August 15. I believe, if the SEC approves the BTC ETF by late September, we’ll see the price rally reaching its all-time of high of around $20K before the end of 2018.

3.Alexander V. van Dijl, Financial expert:

    At the beginning of this year I predicted a bitcoin value of 150.000. While that seems like a lot today, I believe some firm price movements will take place in the (very) near future. Something big will happen, perhaps a large retailer will accept bitcoin, perhaps adult advertising will accept bitcoin as payment. Something big will happen that will cause the price to skyrocket again. 150.000 is my prediction for January 1st.

4.Ronald Shi, Head Trader/Analyst at Virtuse Exchange:

    Bitcoin is often called “digital gold” and we often find a resemblance between the two. The volatility and price action of bitcoin today resembles the same price movement of gold prices in the 1980s. We believe that Bitcoin prices are in its late bear phase and if a Bitcoin ETF being approved by the SEC before October, bitcoin sentiments will turn and creep back to the $10,000-$12,000 range.

5.Luke Lombe, Head of Blockchain at PlayChip:

    We’ve been in a strong bearish trend for all of 2018. Institutional money has been accumulating during the lows and I expect some positive developments on the ETF front within the next 6–9 months. If we can break the back of this bear run and push past US$8500, by January 2019 Bitcoin should be around double where we are now = US$12600.

6.Eric Brown, Founder and CEO of Aliant Payment Systems:

    My Bitcoin price prediction for 1 January 2019 is $23,000.We were practically at this price once, and we know what it takes to get it back there. We are very much in the infancy of this type of currency, and as technology grows, so does the value of the currency. The future is technology and Bitcoin is the currency of that technology.

7.Hans Battle, Co-Founder and CFO of Incremint:

    $10,000 — “After a period of obvious, frenzied speculation, we’re now seeing a pickup in requests for our escrow services in bitcoin for actual commercial applications. This will provide a floor in underpinning bitcoin’s value

8.Sam Russell, Co-Founder / EVP Strategy and Innovation at WORBLI:

    If the fundamentals on Bitcoin positively change in September with the upcoming proposals for an ETF approval by the SEC, we can expect buying pressure to increase pushing price up to previous market structure highs of $11,400 testing resistance in that area. Should that happen, Bitcoin would effectively change in trend. My guess — 17,000 USD.

9.PK Banks, Co-Founder at CBlocks:

    Using a very conservative and reasonable framework, it’s easy to see that bitcoin is currently undervalued, relative to its historical average. Bitcoin typically trades in a range of about 1.30 to 1.75 times its 200-day moving average (200 DMA). 9,420 within the next 4–5 months is easy to achieve, when bitcoin mean-reverts to a 1.25–1.40 200 DMA.

10.Collins Brown, Co-Founder at Market Protocol:

    $14,000 BTC/USD. Bitcoin has shown a tremendous amount of resilience relative to the rest of the market as prices have declined. As we continue to work through this bear market, sentiment will eventually turn and BTC will be the largest benefactor over a short time horizon.

11.Kyle Fournier, Crypto Analyst at CryptoManiaks:

    On January 1st, 2019, I expect the price of Bitcoin to be about $10,000.

    Bitcoin and the crypto market go through clear cycles of bull markets followed by bear markets. Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum, tweeted on July 31 of this year saying that we’re at the tail end of this crypto bubble. Bitcoin will soon start to gradually climb back up.

12.James Stefurak, Founder at Monarch Research:

    Our year-end bitcoin target is $7700. Two main sources for this demand-

    1) Tariff tensions increase the need for faster executions for import-export businesses

    2) inevitable approval for a bitcoin ETF, probably within twelve months.

13.Kyle Asman, Co-Founder at BX3 Capital

    I believe Bitcoin will hit $24,500 by the 1st of the year. When the Bitcoin ETF gains approval toward the end of September, Bitcoin should be around $7,000 and will see an increase of about 350% like the gold ETF did when it gained approval. The price of Bitcoin will continue to move higher throughout 2019.

14.Sam Olmsted, Consultant for Pelicoin:

    At the beginning of 2019, Bitcoin is expected to hover right above $10,000 per coin. As global currency markets like that of Venezuela see hyperinflation, confidence in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will increase and raise prices.

15.David Hanson, Co-CEO of gaming distribution platform Ultra

    I believe bitcoin will see a slight price recovery, rising to $8,500 by January 2019.

    Following the SEC’s rejection of the Winklevoss ETF last month, the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies fell, however the effects of that will not be long-lasting. Similarly, I believe that the SEC will reject all ETFs for the rest of the year, but this will not cause the price of bitcoin to crash.

    In fact, it will be beneficial to investors and encourage them to revert to the fundamentals and think long-term, as opposed to speculating in the short-term.

    After bottoming out at $5,400, bitcoin will go sideways for a few months before recovering slowly and climbing back to $8,500.

16.Danny Scott, CEO and Co-Founder at CoinCorner:

    Based on our existing data combined with industry trends, we predict the price of Bitcoin will level around $15,000 by 1st January 2019. We take this view as the industry is growing at a healthy rate, with the retail market developing steadily and considerable new interest from high net worth individuals and institutions being recorded.

Now multiply that by your imagination  Grin Wink
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I voted for this poll about the most entertaining person on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

I ticked Bob, V8 and mic. Wildly different styles, but all established wall observers and entertaining posters. There was no shortage of worthy alternative candidates, but someone who doesn't post at least semi-regularly in the WOT can't be too entertaining, now can they?

Bruno/yutucoin is leading at the moment.
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Regarding you needing to look up a word, I don't want to sound like a dick or nothing, but it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all 'tarded. What I'd do, is just like... ha ha... like... aha... you know, like, you know what I mean, like... haha...

 One of my favourite non-fiction comedies of all time.

Edit: offending post removed.  Mic quoted it though... maybe you can talk to him?


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16 Bitcoin Price Predictions from "Industry Experts"

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16 industry experts
9 month down trend
An asset that has historical multi year bear cycles
Not one bear
Heh

At least some of them were realistic.
I LOLed at the $150,000 BTC year end price. If BTC hits 6 figures this year, I'll blow everyone in this thread.
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I voted for this poll about the most entertaining person on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

I ticked Bob, V8 and mic. Wildly different styles, but all established wall observers and entertaining posters. There was no shortage of worthy alternative candidates, but someone who doesn't post at least semi-regularly in the WOT can't be too entertaining, now can they?

Bruno/yutucoin is leading at the moment.

I slidly had the same vote only didn’t vote myself but rosewater instead .... also all Wall observers  Roll Eyes
And enjoy there post as well ..... Grin
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16 industry experts
9 month down trend
An asset that has historical multi year bear cycles
Not one bear
Heh

Yeah, sucks. Was hoping for STH before 2019 but not with these winds.

David Hanson sounds the most plausible out of that bunch.

BTW who says they are expert?

People in this thread beat the shit out of them.
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1.Gavriel Shaw, CMO at Bitcoin.com:

    As a hobbyist trader and self-proclaimed market psychologist, my best guess at the bitcoin price by January is ‘way up’ due to strong market forces and price chart patterns. A break-out appears to be imminent and it will be a very strong bull run. By Jan 1st… BTC at $10,500 and BCH at $1,500.

2.Khaled Khorshid, Co-Founder at Treon ICO:

    In my view, we did not see BTC getting dumped nor have we seen it brake it’s crucial resistance points since August 15. I believe, if the SEC approves the BTC ETF by late September, we’ll see the price rally reaching its all-time of high of around $20K before the end of 2018.

3.Alexander V. van Dijl, Financial expert:

    At the beginning of this year I predicted a bitcoin value of 150.000. While that seems like a lot today, I believe some firm price movements will take place in the (very) near future. Something big will happen, perhaps a large retailer will accept bitcoin, perhaps adult advertising will accept bitcoin as payment. Something big will happen that will cause the price to skyrocket again. 150.000 is my prediction for January 1st.

4.Ronald Shi, Head Trader/Analyst at Virtuse Exchange:

    Bitcoin is often called “digital gold” and we often find a resemblance between the two. The volatility and price action of bitcoin today resembles the same price movement of gold prices in the 1980s. We believe that Bitcoin prices are in its late bear phase and if a Bitcoin ETF being approved by the SEC before October, bitcoin sentiments will turn and creep back to the $10,000-$12,000 range.

5.Luke Lombe, Head of Blockchain at PlayChip:

    We’ve been in a strong bearish trend for all of 2018. Institutional money has been accumulating during the lows and I expect some positive developments on the ETF front within the next 6–9 months. If we can break the back of this bear run and push past US$8500, by January 2019 Bitcoin should be around double where we are now = US$12600.

6.Eric Brown, Founder and CEO of Aliant Payment Systems:

    My Bitcoin price prediction for 1 January 2019 is $23,000.We were practically at this price once, and we know what it takes to get it back there. We are very much in the infancy of this type of currency, and as technology grows, so does the value of the currency. The future is technology and Bitcoin is the currency of that technology.

7.Hans Battle, Co-Founder and CFO of Incremint:

    $10,000 — “After a period of obvious, frenzied speculation, we’re now seeing a pickup in requests for our escrow services in bitcoin for actual commercial applications. This will provide a floor in underpinning bitcoin’s value

8.Sam Russell, Co-Founder / EVP Strategy and Innovation at WORBLI:

    If the fundamentals on Bitcoin positively change in September with the upcoming proposals for an ETF approval by the SEC, we can expect buying pressure to increase pushing price up to previous market structure highs of $11,400 testing resistance in that area. Should that happen, Bitcoin would effectively change in trend. My guess — 17,000 USD.

9.PK Banks, Co-Founder at CBlocks:

    Using a very conservative and reasonable framework, it’s easy to see that bitcoin is currently undervalued, relative to its historical average. Bitcoin typically trades in a range of about 1.30 to 1.75 times its 200-day moving average (200 DMA). 9,420 within the next 4–5 months is easy to achieve, when bitcoin mean-reverts to a 1.25–1.40 200 DMA.

10.Collins Brown, Co-Founder at Market Protocol:

    $14,000 BTC/USD. Bitcoin has shown a tremendous amount of resilience relative to the rest of the market as prices have declined. As we continue to work through this bear market, sentiment will eventually turn and BTC will be the largest benefactor over a short time horizon.

11.Kyle Fournier, Crypto Analyst at CryptoManiaks:

    On January 1st, 2019, I expect the price of Bitcoin to be about $10,000.

    Bitcoin and the crypto market go through clear cycles of bull markets followed by bear markets. Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum, tweeted on July 31 of this year saying that we’re at the tail end of this crypto bubble. Bitcoin will soon start to gradually climb back up.

12.James Stefurak, Founder at Monarch Research:

    Our year-end bitcoin target is $7700. Two main sources for this demand-

    1) Tariff tensions increase the need for faster executions for import-export businesses

    2) inevitable approval for a bitcoin ETF, probably within twelve months.

13.Kyle Asman, Co-Founder at BX3 Capital

    I believe Bitcoin will hit $24,500 by the 1st of the year. When the Bitcoin ETF gains approval toward the end of September, Bitcoin should be around $7,000 and will see an increase of about 350% like the gold ETF did when it gained approval. The price of Bitcoin will continue to move higher throughout 2019.

14.Sam Olmsted, Consultant for Pelicoin:

    At the beginning of 2019, Bitcoin is expected to hover right above $10,000 per coin. As global currency markets like that of Venezuela see hyperinflation, confidence in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will increase and raise prices.

15.David Hanson, Co-CEO of gaming distribution platform Ultra

    I believe bitcoin will see a slight price recovery, rising to $8,500 by January 2019.

    Following the SEC’s rejection of the Winklevoss ETF last month, the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies fell, however the effects of that will not be long-lasting. Similarly, I believe that the SEC will reject all ETFs for the rest of the year, but this will not cause the price of bitcoin to crash.

    In fact, it will be beneficial to investors and encourage them to revert to the fundamentals and think long-term, as opposed to speculating in the short-term.

    After bottoming out at $5,400, bitcoin will go sideways for a few months before recovering slowly and climbing back to $8,500.

16.Danny Scott, CEO and Co-Founder at CoinCorner:

    Based on our existing data combined with industry trends, we predict the price of Bitcoin will level around $15,000 by 1st January 2019. We take this view as the industry is growing at a healthy rate, with the retail market developing steadily and considerable new interest from high net worth individuals and institutions being recorded.

The media always trots out the "Bitcoin experts" during and right after a blow off top to predict when a new bull trend will start. Saw the same thing in 2014. Since they are almost always wrong, I'm starting to believe that many of these so called "Bitcoin experts" are being paid to shill for Bitcoin by the whales.

'Cause whales want you to buy Bitcoin during a downtrend. Never during an uptrend (except near the next blow off top).
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this list getting REKT as well pffff time to get some action  Roll Eyes

who would be the winner of this one ....
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I voted for this poll about the most entertaining person on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5008800.0

I ticked Bob, V8 and mic. Wildly different styles, but all established wall observers and entertaining posters. There was no shortage of worthy alternative candidates, but someone who doesn't post at least semi-regularly in the WOT can't be too entertaining, now can they?

Bruno/yutucoin is leading at the moment.

I slidly had the same vote only didn’t vote myself but rosewater instead .... also all Wall observers  Roll Eyes
And enjoy there post as well ..... Grin

The Mayor is much more entertaining than despondent, closet-bound Rosewater. Quite another league. The Mayor League, probably.
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back in bussines BULL SEASON returned .  Roll Eyes

This just all reminds me of when I spent thousands & thousands buying bitcoin’s when they were about $500-$600 only for the price to sink all the way down to $150 & stay there for ages. I was really down about it tbh & thought I’d totally wasted a shit tonne of money but we all know what happened then.

Moral of the story - FUCKING HODL & we’ll see another epic bull run in the next 2 years.

I still don’t like seeing the price dump but it doesn’t worry me anywhee near as much as it used to.

Pretty confident we’ll all be ridiculously rich 2021 onwards.



are you rich right now? do you work a 9-5?
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Regarding you needing to look up a word, I don't want to sound like a dick or nothing, but it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all 'tarded. What I'd do, is just like... ha ha... like... aha... you know, like, you know what I mean, like... haha...

 One of my favourite non-fiction comedies of all time.

Edit: offending post removed.  Mic quoted it though... maybe you can talk to him?


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back in bussines BULL SEASON returned .  Roll Eyes

This just all reminds me of when I spent thousands & thousands buying bitcoin’s when they were about $500-$600 only for the price to sink all the way down to $150 & stay there for ages. I was really down about it tbh & thought I’d totally wasted a shit tonne of money but we all know what happened then.

Moral of the story - FUCKING HODL & we’ll see another epic bull run in the next 2 years.

I still don’t like seeing the price dump but it doesn’t worry me anywhee near as much as it used to.

Pretty confident we’ll all be ridiculously rich 2021 onwards.



are you rich right now? do you work a 9-5?

yup, working 7am to 6pm. acquire more FIAT which we can exchange to BTC. get rich and retired in 2022.
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back in bussines BULL SEASON returned .  Roll Eyes

This just all reminds me of when I spent thousands & thousands buying bitcoin’s when they were about $500-$600 only for the price to sink all the way down to $150 & stay there for ages. I was really down about it tbh & thought I’d totally wasted a shit tonne of money but we all know what happened then.

Moral of the story - FUCKING HODL & we’ll see another epic bull run in the next 2 years.

I still don’t like seeing the price dump but it doesn’t worry me anywhee near as much as it used to.

Pretty confident we’ll all be ridiculously rich 2021 onwards.



are you rich right now? do you work a 9-5?

My man.... he has BTC’s isn’t that enough of an answer???
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'Cause whales want you to buy Bitcoin during a downtrend. Never during an uptrend (except near the next blow off top).

JJG could be a whale then  Tongue
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Asked to delete ? NP but Why ?

Nah, it's all good, fam.

I thought my post was ruining the Feng shui of the thread, but hey, if I ended up edumacating someone by using a strange word, I guess it was a worthwhile post after all.

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I bought all of my bitcoin’s in 2014-2015. Haven’t bought any since then but had £40,000 inheritance in an Aunties will recently. Wondering if I should start buying again if this goes significantly under $6,000.

BFD January 2019 crash.  


This is not financial advice.  I have no idea what I am doing.  

Frequently, if I come across a bit more cash than I had anticipated having, to the extent that I allocate that unanticipated extra money to bitcoin, then generally I will divide the funds into three portions (usually something like equal thirds).  

The first portion, I buy right away (like within a week and largely at the current price),

the second portion, I set a timeline, such as 6 months (which has about 26 weeks) in which I will dollar cost average with a weekly allowance (which is the total amount divided by 26), and

the third portion, I set a incremental buy ladder - which is pretty much systematically (and rationally) adding the amount of fiat to the buy ladder increments and amounts that I already have in place (which sometimes also requires a bit of tweaking of the whole then set up).

In other words, I am not going to wait for some hypothetical dip at some specific time in the future, even if 90% of the chart analysis gurus are convinced of such likely (or inevitable) star alignment(s).   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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What do you consider to be our current trading range (which I would also consider to be a range in which you do not get excited until it is breached?

Something like $5,900 to $7,900 ?


Actually, might we NOT get too excited (or assume that the bottom is "in" until we give another really good challenge to $10k and perhaps go above it for a while?

Could take several months, as you seem to be suggesting.

I'd set the range at the previous low around $5700 to the previous peak around $8500. I'm less inclined to consider the range analogous to 2015 until we've kept our footing here for longer. With the 1-week MACD breaching positive, one might argue that this safe ground is more treacherous than it appears.
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back in bussines BULL SEASON returned .  Roll Eyes

This just all reminds me of when I spent thousands & thousands buying bitcoin’s when they were about $500-$600 only for the price to sink all the way down to $150 & stay there for ages. I was really down about it tbh & thought I’d totally wasted a shit tonne of money but we all know what happened then.

Moral of the story - FUCKING HODL & we’ll see another epic bull run in the next 2 years.

I still don’t like seeing the price dump but it doesn’t worry me anywhee near as much as it used to.

Pretty confident we’ll all be ridiculously rich 2021 onwards.



are you rich right now? do you work a 9-5?

yup, working 7am to 6pm. acquire more FIAT which we can exchange to BTC. get rich and retired in 2022.

you've been in this game way longer than I have so I just want to ask some questions, hope you don't mind.

Does the fact that you bought bitcoin like 5 years ago make any difference on the life you live right now moneywise, do you take profits and buy stuff you otherwise couldn't afford with your job, or do you just reinvest more?
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