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[bitcoinPsycho]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

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[kingcolex]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

[bitserve]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

[kingcolex]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

As long as you're ready for people to continue to say your "lucky" for investing in crypto, as if you didn't put any effort into it and fell into a stack of Bitcoin. I am sure everyone here has experienced that, and it just echoes my point, nobody is held responsible for their actions good or bad.

[El duderino_]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

you have BTC and wearing a HAT... you are rich brother

[jonoiv]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

[bitcoinPsycho]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

[crypmike]

Coinbase raises Series E round of financing to accelerate the adoption of cryptocurrencies

https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-raises-series-e-round-of-financing-to-accelerate-the-adoption-of-cryptocurrencies-1ad927463814

[jonoiv]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democratic decisions we have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

[bitcoinPsycho]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democrat desisions why have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

thats right
edit: if a future democratically elected government decides to hold another vote, that's fine

[bitserve]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

As long as you're ready for people to continue to say your "lucky" for investing in crypto, as if you didn't put any effort into it and fell into a stack of Bitcoin. I am sure everyone here has experienced that, and it just echoes my point, nobody is held responsible for their actions good or bad.

I am completely ready for that. Been hearing something similar all over my life for every success... nothing when failure. I, mostly, don't fucking care. I will care even less when enough "fuck you money" is achieved. It's only results that count.

Again, can we now be on our way to richness, please?

Blah, we are all going to die anyway.

[bitserve]

UK State goes down the rabbit hole of guilty until proven innocent and asymmetric justice ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/uk-begins-confiscating-wealth-without-criminal-charges

the great nation state unravelling gains pace

The United Kuckdom has been going down the drain for years now... Nothing new. Completely ruined by modern radical leftism. Better not watch tv without a license or buy a butterknife under 18.

I am glad you know the UK so well.  However, you obviously are not quite well-informed enough to know that the Tories (in power since 2010) are hardly what most people would call radical left, unless you think Margaret Thatcher was a socialist.

You should also know the TV license has always been entirely to fund the BBC, through all of its outlets online, on TV and on radio which are free and carry no advertising or sponsorship.  Most people in the UK rather like the BBC.  Even if they do moan about it, they would not see it gone by any stretch of the imagination, nor do they prefer endless ad breaks, as some countries seem to love.

OK, maybe the UK should let kids buy knives and stab each other (which has been an issue) or maybe you think less of them would be stabbed if they were armed?  

The thing is the UK worries about knives as it really doesn't have anything like a fine popular tradition of mass shootings to worry about, is it doing that wrong too?

I got my first knife when I was like, six. Went out and cut up some innocent plants. Cut my finger, still have a scar. Every kid should do the same and every adult should have the right to be armed if so desired.

But then people would have to be held accountable for their own actions, that's a mind set that has been crumbling for years. Could you imagine a world where someone is blamed for their choices and not the availability of the tools or weapons used and innocent responsible adults aren't then forced to have to change their lifestyle of hobbies for the individual who is a fuckup?

I doubt the future of people being held responsible for their actions good or bad is the future we will have.

The world is completely fucked up. Can we at least be rich, please?

you have BTC and wearing a HAT... you are rich brother

Not rich enough... I am wearing a nice hat though

[jonoiv]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democratic decisions we have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

thats right
edit: if a future democratically elected government decides to hold another vote, that's fine

So let me just recap...


You didn't vote leave for xenophobic reasons, because you have a jamican girlfrend.  I assume she lives in "your" counrty!


You want to leave the EU to be able to make our own laws in the UK, but you don't know what laws they are.  You want the democratic majority to be able to decide as long as the questions asked to the democracy are questions you approve of?

EDIT:  So no current govenment can make any new laws even if the majority want it?
But i assume you do realise we have a diffent govenment from when the referendum was called, right?


 bear in mind, the majortiy of democratically elected MPs are remainers.

[bitcoinPsycho]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democratic decisions we have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

thats right
edit: if a future democratically elected government decides to hold another vote, that's fine

So let me just recap...


You didn't vote leave for xenophobic reasons, because you have a jamican girlfrend.  I assume she lives in "your" counrty!


You want to leave the EU to be able to make our own laws in the UK, but you don't know what laws they are.  You want the democratic majority to be able to decide as long as the questions asked to the democracy are questions you approve of?

EDIT:  So no current govenment can make any new laws even if the majority want it?
But i assume you do realise we have a diffent govenment from when the referendum was called, right?


  

sorry you obviously KNOW more about my country than me
If you want a brexit debate ask jjg and I'm sure he will shower you with the wall of text that you desire.

[kingcolex]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democratic decisions we have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

thats right
edit: if a future democratically elected government decides to hold another vote, that's fine

So let me just recap...


You didn't vote leave for xenophobic reasons, because you have a jamican girlfrend.  I assume she lives in "your" counrty!


You want to leave the EU to be able to make our own laws in the UK, but you don't know what laws they are.  You want the democratic majority to be able to decide as long as the questions asked to the democracy are questions you approve of?

EDIT:  So no current govenment can make any new laws even if the majority want it?
But i assume you do realise we have a diffent govenment from when the referendum was called, right?


 bear in mind, the majortiy of democratically elected MPs are remainers.

Hold up I'm an American but I figured Jamaicans probably had easy access to immigration to the UK due to them being in the empire in the 60s depending on your age she might have been born under UK rule. So that really has nothing to do with the conversation on either side right?

[jonoiv]

What EU laws do you want abolished after brexit happens?

the (democratically elected and accountable) uk parliament should decide that and if we don't like what they do we can vote them out . that is the point.

I see you avoided the question.  

So you support the right to a second referendum?

no

But you just said if we don't like democratic decisions we have the right to change our minds and vote the other way.

you seem to only support democracy when it suits you.  

thats right
edit: if a future democratically elected government decides to hold another vote, that's fine

So let me just recap...


You didn't vote leave for xenophobic reasons, because you have a jamican girlfrend.  I assume she lives in "your" counrty!


You want to leave the EU to be able to make our own laws in the UK, but you don't know what laws they are.  You want the democratic majority to be able to decide as long as the questions asked to the democracy are questions you approve of?

EDIT:  So no current govenment can make any new laws even if the majority want it?
But i assume you do realise we have a diffent govenment from when the referendum was called, right?


 bear in mind, the majortiy of democratically elected MPs are remainers.

Hold up I'm an American but I figured Jamaicans probably had easy access to immigration to the UK due to them being in the empire in the 60s depending on your age she might have been born under UK rule. So that really has nothing to do with the conversation on either side right?

the old empire immigration rules changed a long time ago.  currently only EU citizens (which is due to change)  and people from outside the EU can come if they are married to a UK citizen who earns over  £18,600 per year.

Students can come on student visas and highlty skilled can come from outside the EU if they prove the position can not be filled by someone from the UK.

[Icygreen]

I'm looking for a well written article refuting the media's claim that bitcoin is using exorbitant amounts of energy.
Anyone have such articles bookmarked you'd be willing to share?  I'd like to blow the thought process open for some men who have questions for me with the energy argument.  
This is the one I've shared so far but I've seen better articles that I forgot to bookmark. https://medium.com/@knut.svanholm/how-everyones-wrong-about-the-energy-used-in-bitcoin-mining-fe3009fd9102

Much appreciated

[JayJuanGee]

SO its the 1 year anniversary of this guy.... hopefully people wil doing more research to avoid this SCAM artists and just buyin BTC.

The issue is some altcoins are just fucking fun, I mean for investment sure buy Bitcoin all day but right now my hobby is building little single board computer clusters and mining Verium right now. The ROI is super long but it's goofey good fun.

Do not confuse fun and goofy altcoins (like DOGE & Co.) with pure scams (like Bitconeeeeeeect)

Don't confuse fun with smart.

[kingcolex]

SO its the 1 year anniversary of this guy.... hopefully people wil doing more research to avoid this SCAM artists and just buyin BTC.

The issue is some altcoins are just fucking fun, I mean for investment sure buy Bitcoin all day but right now my hobby is building little single board computer clusters and mining Verium right now. The ROI is super long but it's goofey good fun.

Do not confuse fun and goofy altcoins (like DOGE & Co.) with pure scams (like Bitconeeeeeeect)

Don't confuse fun with smart.

You're saying my recent purchases of random mini PC's totaling close to $100 won't ROI for around 1-2 years isn't smart. Well that's just silly. Now I'm going to buy hoards of duckcoin 🦆.

[jonoiv]

What are you scared of?

What immediately precedes "The Crusades 2.0"

Y'all are deep the shit, now.

Won't be much longer...

You talkling about the rise of radical Islam?