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November 24, 2018, 02:54:29 PM

Speaking of trilema, what ever happened to Mircea Popescu?
He soldiers on.
MPOE-PR has a baby duck. And tits.
More insights anon.

I haven’t really heard anything about him for a long time. I really miss MPOE-PR. She, he, it was so hilarious.
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November 24, 2018, 02:55:30 PM

I'm honestly amazed the stupid Chinese pump and dump shills spamming this thread really believe that right at a turning point where things can continue no longer on their current course in civilization, that instead of shifting downwards in complexity, they actually think it's either going to continue as normal or even shift upwards into more complexity instead.  I've studied everything from economics, to sociology, to religion, to complexity theory, to anything you can think of to know exactly what's going to happen in civilization & the monetary system as a whole:

You are fighting against the laws of gravity if you believe metals will be displaced by craptocurrency.  I'll take the Joseph Tainter position any day on this subject matter.  When complex systems implode, they don't shift over to an even more complex system, they either go backwards in complexity or enter a full dark ages.  Complexity is not inherently good, it's a liability.  Another crux of the Joseph Tainter argument when extrapolated to it's end point is that overspecialization is essentially a Fermi Paradox-style extinction level event.  The invisible hand of nature will force chaos and implosions at random intervals to prevent this.  The world doesn't want "total order" as you always reference the term as being bad/an impossibility.

Metals always survive these random interval re-orgs of nature because they are very basic elements and almost indestructable; craptocurrency does not.  Not to mention craptocurrency being a far inferior settlement system with no reason to even exist due to not removing counter party risk and having built-in rent seeking middlemen (transaction validators - so called "miners").

Humans are not going into some type of permanent "knowledge age" as you seem to think.  Cyclical dark ages are kind of inevitable in the grand scheme of nature's design just like economic cycles.  If you actually did attempt to engineer some type of overspecialized "knowledge age", it would just make the coming cyclical dark age all the more severe and possibly lead to extinction.
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November 24, 2018, 03:21:09 PM

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Thought the same but never no Maybe VERY Maybe @ the Total begin .... but think not also not gonna argue that cause i’m not 100%sure


Well sometimes any of us posting here could talk about percentages or amount or strategies, and the only thing i recall you disclosing related to strategies... such as hodl and buydl of BTC.. and maybe amounts related to games, but not amounts that you were buying or even how long that you have been buying.. even though that could be easy to miss some posts that might have gone over that.

Regarding myself, I have provided a bit more regarding percentages of BTC bought but usually not amounts, except every once in a while I might describe amounts as examples or maybe amounts of some transactions that I have done, for example in the context of debunking claims about slow transaction times and/or high transaction fees.

I've let Mic know what I remember and I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong. 

I am pretty sure Mic has not ever disclosed how much Bitcoin he does have. Not even a ballpark figure. One could speculate, but that's all.

His opsec is bad in regards of his IRL persona -and he is perfectly aware of that- but not about his stash size.
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November 24, 2018, 03:23:15 PM

r0ach, I think you just want the price to go lower where you believe the bottom is.  That's the entire reasoning behind your tired arguments of centralized transaction validations and a manipulated price on bitfinex. (I believe you also have some real fears about this)    You once stated that you believed JJG was responsible for initiating the pump to 1200 by posting bullishly on WO. I think you were inspired by that and now trying to manipulate sentiment the best you can.  
That underwater silver position is kinda interesting!  Shocked  For some reason I was sure your position would be between $6.50-12 but it appears you went full FOMO in 2011 buying the top and then you got salty when BTC kept going up and silver fell sharply. Let me guess, do you blame the Jews for that? Shilling for silver makes more sense now.  
 
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November 24, 2018, 03:34:49 PM

Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.

What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....
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November 24, 2018, 03:39:30 PM

Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.

What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....

I think it is highly likely that we will.  The only 2 things that I could see preventing that are 1) massive government crackdown or 2)a superior crypto taking over.
Or maybe 3) the world as we know it ending, but then honestly we will have bigger fish to fry.
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November 24, 2018, 03:40:09 PM

^^


not ever close to ATH

who is that there? Roll Eyes


one never knows what could happen, everything is possible if not presented @the present time
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November 24, 2018, 03:46:19 PM

^
Thought the same but never no Maybe VERY Maybe @ the Total begin .... but think not also not gonna argue that cause i’m not 100%sure


Well sometimes any of us posting here could talk about percentages or amount or strategies, and the only thing i recall you disclosing related to strategies... such as hodl and buydl of BTC.. and maybe amounts related to games, but not amounts that you were buying or even how long that you have been buying.. even though that could be easy to miss some posts that might have gone over that.

Regarding myself, I have provided a bit more regarding percentages of BTC bought but usually not amounts, except every once in a while I might describe amounts as examples or maybe amounts of some transactions that I have done, for example in the context of debunking claims about slow transaction times and/or high transaction fees.

I've let Mic know what I remember and I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong. 

I am pretty sure Mic has not ever disclosed how much Bitcoin he does have. Not even a ballpark figure. One could speculate, but that's all.

His opsec is bad in regards of his IRL persona -and he is perfectly aware of that- but not about his stash size.

i actualy think i never said anything like that before, and yes my opsec is not the best as JJG told me many times before last few weeks Roll Eyes
but i am aware of what i do, or think that i am..... but revealing how many BTC's one have isn't something to gain anything with, and just looking for who has the biggest dick is not in my nature as well, i never mind if someone says to have X amount and setting his goal for X amount, but its every man for himself on that point, so all of the WO do own minimum something in BTC i hope Roll Eyes
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November 24, 2018, 03:49:59 PM

Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.

What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....

Of course it won't reach the last All time high.  There are no more suckers left to buy.  The pool of greater fools have dried up and you idiots are left holding bags of dying digital coins.
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Am I the only one that has fears the price of Bitcoin would never even reach the last ATH? I mean, yes, I think it will, heck, I think it could happen as soon as in less than one year from now or, most probably, around the next halving but.... I know there is a non-negligible possibility of that not happening, ever.

What are you guys stance about that? Let's be honest here....
Of course the thought did cross my mind.
My opinion is it will get back there and beyond. Heck, it always did, with a bang.
And if I'm wrong and it never goes back to 20k again, I'll be profiting some anyway.
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November 24, 2018, 03:55:52 PM

r0ach, I think you just want the price to go lower where you believe the bottom is.

False.  I do not want the price to go lower to get a "great deal" on valueless, imaginary tokens.  I want the price to go to zero, die, and never be seen again so the world can go back to sound money - silver and gold - instead of the Pandora's box known as digital currency that are all 100% guaranteed to be state controlled tracking and slavery systems on a long enough timeline.  It's pretty much inevitable metals do defeat them, I just do not want to see the fight drag on for years from scammers spamming stupid people to buy them.

and a manipulated price on bitfinex. (I believe you also have some real fears about this)

I used to trade shitcoins to acquire more metals even though I knew shitcoins were a garbage asset.  Most traditional markets are stupidly rigged, so it was one of the few viable markets to do any type of trading at all.  Now, entitites like Bitfinex have turned the market into even more of a scam than traditional markets, so you have an invalid asset trading in a completely invalid toxic market.  

You once stated that you believed JJG was responsible for initiating the pump to 1200 by posting bullishly on WO.

No...I did not.  I'm pretty sure JayJuanGee is just some sort of Google chat bot and is not even a real person.  If I said anything like that, it was obviously a joke.  If anything, JayJuanGee posts probably make the price go down.
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As someone mentioned recently (sorry can't remember who it was), some kind of newbie jail for the WO wouldn't necessarily be a terribly bad thing.
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That didn't happen, really? Where?  I'll be so jelly but inspired to set some ridiculous low bids

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r0ach, I think you just want the price to go lower where you believe the bottom is.

False.  I do not want the price to go lower to get a "great deal" on valueless, imaginary tokens.  I want the price to go to zero, die, and never be seen again so the world can go back to sound money - silver and gold - instead of the Pandora's box known as digital currency that are all 100% guaranteed to be state controlled tracking and slavery systems on a long enough timeline.  It's pretty much inevitable metals do defeat them, I just do not want to see the fight drag on for years from scammers spamming stupid people to buy them.

and a manipulated price on bitfinex. (I believe you also have some real fears about this)

I used to trade shitcoins to acquire more metals even though I knew shitcoins were a garbage asset.  Most traditional markets are stupidly rigged, so it was one of the few viable markets to do any type of trading at all.  Now, entitites like Bitfinex have turned the market into even more of a scam than traditional markets, so you have an invalid asset trading in a completely invalid toxic market. 







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November 24, 2018, 04:14:02 PM

Micgoossens is calling people an idiot as his investment crashes 80%..nice one.  The guy who knows absolutely nothing about bitcoin and accidentally acquired some from gambling and now pretends to be a bitcoin expert.

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November 24, 2018, 04:27:02 PM

Its just a market cycle: “Is it Curtains for Cryptocurrency?” by Patrick Tan https://link.medium.com/30ZWUOQR6R
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November 24, 2018, 04:27:49 PM

Micgoossens is calling people an idiot as his investment crashes 80%..nice one.  The guy who knows absolutely nothing about bitcoin and accidentally acquired some from gambling and now pretends to be a bitcoin expert.



haha lol can't say youre totally wrong there, not gonna argue to much, but i even don't know what your investments are doing...........

BUT apart from my real "work occupations" i see my gambling "poker play ability" as an investment as it self, with that i require my largest size amount of BTC holdings, (can't say my avg% of BTC costs) but @the moment i'm BIG up for sure especially cause i see most of it earned while doing a game of FUN, so even @ 100$ (what i would hate) its all profit its an investment where i can't lose a single penny

(i bought a few but also sold a few my initial investment of what i bought with fiat is out with good % of profit, and is slightly buying some DIP's again with that profit and bought a piece of land as well with profits)

so overal i'm not with to much stress around my head if it comes to my investings, i hope you got some skills as well to require that what you want in life, my best move was poker (though i had some debatable hand where i was very lucky and made a lot of coins by, also won a few like KK versus AA and i was the player behind, and when i had the better hand i also was lucky many times that they just hold, so i know i was the most luckiest @the table, but i stand by my almost every decision while i played)


I ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER CLAIMED TO BE A BTC EXPERT EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOWS I'M NOT Cheesy


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r0ach, I think you just want the price to go lower where you believe the bottom is.

False.  I do not want the price to go lower to get a "great deal" on valueless, imaginary tokens.  I want the price to go to zero, die, and never be seen again so the world can go back to sound money - silver and gold - instead of the Pandora's box known as digital currency that are all 100% guaranteed to be state controlled tracking and slavery systems on a long enough timeline.  It's pretty much inevitable metals do defeat them, I just do not want to see the fight drag on for years from scammers spamming stupid people to buy them.

and a manipulated price on bitfinex. (I believe you also have some real fears about this)

I used to trade shitcoins to acquire more metals even though I knew shitcoins were a garbage asset.  Most traditional markets are stupidly rigged, so it was one of the few viable markets to do any type of trading at all.  Now, entitites like Bitfinex have turned the market into even more of a scam than traditional markets, so you have an invalid asset trading in a completely invalid toxic market.  

You once stated that you believed JJG was responsible for initiating the pump to 1200 by posting bullishly on WO.

No...I did not.  I'm pretty sure JayJuanGee is just some sort of Google chat bot and is not even a real person.  If I said anything like that, it was obviously a joke.  If anything, JayJuanGee posts probably make the price go down.


Roach, you sound like terribly rancunous and unlogic. Why would you want BTC go to zero, if you know you can trade, in your case to acquire metals? Probably a plan that did not work out too well?
Anyway, I admit to enjoy reading all your retarded, stupid racist blurbs. Not that I consider you stupid or not intelligent. You probably are very intelligent, but with a few screws missing.
 
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